Bill, I will give you major kudos if you build your ASLAV-25 with compressed suspension going over uneven ground. That would be truly impressive. I should have mentioned befor, look earlier in the thred when I have the hull upside down and you can see where Ive inserted the styrene rod. Its easy to do the steering but time consuming. Outstanding photo of the ASLAV-PC Bill, I have the Mouse House PC conversion on order and its next after the ASLAV-25 build. Take care, Jeff.

Jeffrey
I have no idea what it would entail but I always appreciate seeing articulation like this in models.
By the by the image is of an ASLAV F loading onto the ship, here's another view

I really like the look of the F and have been ruminating about how best to turn a Trump LAV R into a ASLAV F...lots of work.
http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/Armoured%20Vehicles/aslavph_2.htm
http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/modern/trumpeter00370reviewab_1.html
Sorry I am off topic.
Regards and thanks for pointing out the refinements to the undercarriage of your build.
Bill

Hi guys, I've made a little more progress this evening. The hull is completed and primed.






I have also started the turret getting it stripped, masked and anti-slip surface applied. This is where a lot of the Mouse House parts are used to correct the deficiencies.




Bill, thanks for the great photos of the ASLAV Fitter vehicle and planting the seed regarding the articulated suspension, now I have been thinking of ways to try to do this on a future LAV project. I dont think it would be overly difficut to do just very costly in time. Lastly let me add that I have been poring over the massive ASLAV thread and it seems to me that your paint reference on page #3 of 70890 Reflective Green, 70874 USA Tan Earth, and 70950 Black is quite correct if the research of Paul P. on page #5 is correct using paint assist software matching 1:1 scale with model paint. I've included a photo of the paint side by side with the referenced Tamiya matches and they seem extremely close. The flat flesh is put in as it is my choice for mixing for scale effect. I'd like to hear your feedback Bill as I think you had it right from the begining. Cheers, Jeff.

Sorry, I brain cramped and forgot the paint photo. Here it is.

Jeffrey
This Valejo/Tamiya selection looks really good. I went back to the old thread to see what I did and here are the quotes
for tan


for green


black
I used Nato Black and then lightened it and redid the topsides.
I know in the real world these vehicles are painted standard colours but they look different in scale and in various light conditions.
I am happy to see you masked the turret anti slip areas. The demarcation between anti slip texture and bare hull is subtle but that what modelling is all about isn't it, understanding our subjects.
I look forward to you progress.
Bill

Talking about wheels steering, Voyager set #35078 includes parts to allow repositioning of steering axles and some illustrations to modify all applicable suspension parts.

HTH
Frenchy (a bit late on this one)

Frenchy
Here is the link to it
http://www.voyagermodel.com/productlist.asp?itemid=PE35078

sorry the edit mode does not allow for hot links.
Regards
Bill

HI guys, not much progress made in the past few days. Have the car comander assembled and primed.


The turret is almost completed. Just have to add the Bushmaster cannon, co-ax machine gun, smoke dischargers and wire cutter and the turret is finished.






Soon should have some paint on it. Until next time cheers, Jeff.

Jeffrey
Good to see progress I was in need of an ASLAV fix. The PE, is that from the Trump set? I see the continuous tie downs on the hull are they from Mouse House?
The figure looks very good, I will be interested to see how you tackle the uniform paint scheme.
I am itching to get some modelling in, the summer has been warm and there are endless chores to do, it really conflicts with modelling time. Thanks for posting these updates.
Bill

Hi Bill, the only reason I have got any modelling done this summer is by sacrificing sleep to do it. Is that passion or stupidity? I haven't figured that out yet. The continuous tie downs and the rear small bins are Mouse House and the rest of the etch is Trumpeter. It's hard to see but most of the fittings on the turret are Mouse resin. The turret had to be completely stripped, it was a lot of work but it was worth the effort. Talk to you soon, Jeff.

Jeffery
I suppose it is a little late to ask but do you happen to have a Trump ASLAV 25 turret stock that you can take a picture of along side the one you stripped? It would be an interesting comparison to see how much the Mouse House details correct the Trump turret. Good on ya though for going the extra mile.
Regards
Bill

Bill, here's the photos. Sorry, but they don't convey the message. The turret resin parts are: gun mount,trunion and dust cover- gunner and commanders sights and covers- turret hatches and fastening hardware- Platt mount base for machine gun-aerials and mounts- INVS aerial and mount.




If you look at Rays (Romeo Kilo ) thread on the Trump ASLAV-25 build you can really see the resin parts on the turret. Cheers, Jeff.

G'day Jeff,


The C/S depend on the Commander of the rotation.Sometimes they have them, sometimes they don't. Also the C/S change with rotations. Bar Armour is also mission applicable. Takes the crews a couple of hour to fitt the whole package.

With regard to your kit, drop off the large lefthand side bin on the back of the turret. I have just spoken with one of the crew members of this car and he advised me there was only one on the rear. That way the crew could add the basket whenever they need to. Also if you note, the wire cutter facing to the rear? This is so that when the car is on patrol, his turret is facing 6 o'clock so they still have wire cutting protection. The long rectangle looking thing on the bottom rear of the turret will also need to come off.
Trumpeter states in the insructions to add the turret basket mesh to the bottom of the basket. This is incorrect. The mesh needs to be on the inside.

But all in all it is looking good.

Cheers Jason

PS The name "Scorpion King" was bit of a joke poked at the the Cav unit and Light Horse unit that made up the rotation. The C/C was from B Sqn 4/3 Cav Regiment. The "STINGERS". Their hat badge has a scorpion on it.

Jeffrey
Is the painted turret OTB Trumpeter ASLAV 25? You have a few of them on the go don't you?
I was wondering if Sam's build is the Mouse House conversion for the Trump LAV 25 kit, it must be?
Thanks for doing the comparison photos, I'll have a look over at Ray's build as well.
Bill

G'day Bill,
Sam's ASLAV is based on the Trumpeter ASLAV-25 kit.

Sams build on ML

Cheers Jason

PS I will get to that email in the morning Bill.

Jason
How did I miss that thread on ML? Thanks for the link. Not only is the model stunning and very complete the photos are very nice as well, nice to be able to actually see the details, hats off to you Sam.
Jason is your 25 (with the bar armour around the turret) the conversion from the Trump LAV 25 kit? I have that conversion and was wondering if there is any benefit to using the Trump LAV 25 vs the Trump ASLAV for the build, I have a few of both?
Thanks
Bill

Just starting the Trump kit myself
This thread has been a direct influence to get me started building after a short 6 month builders block
I think I am going to do it o.o.b.
Nice kit though

Jason, thanks for pointing out the further corrections that need to be made on the turret. I thought the larger of the two rear bins were on Scorpion King in the group of photos in the Military Briefs book. Do you mean that's the way the car is now or the way it was in the SECDET 9 photos? Bill, I had built the Trump ASLAV-25 OOTB about 5 months ago. I had painted it inaccurately and wanted to correct the deficiencies as per the Jason Miller in box review of the kit hence this build of Scorpion King. Sorry the photos aren't the quality of Sams, I do the best with what I can afford to have. Wayne, enjoy the kit OOTB, I did. Building the kit with all of the exact corrections can be at times frustrating being a modeller of intermediate ability as I am. Cheers, Jeff.

Jeffrey
It is very hard to build anything that we don't have first hand knowledge of, especially when our subjects are over seas. It is great though to have fellow modellers like Jason Miller that know the vehicle well and that take the time to point out errors as we go. It is frustrating too at times when you are done detailing and then someone says to remove this or that, better than if it was already painted though, remember my red roo decal facing the wrong way ;o(.
Your photographs are fine for your build in progress, the photography of models is in itself an art form and a costly hobby in itself. I didn't mean to be critical of you but rather of photography of models in general, it is so refreshing to be able to see a beautiful model in all its glory, well exposed and in focus.
You are serious about your modelling and we are all benefiting from your experience, thanks for sharing and I look forward to your next installment.
Bill

Thanks
I did the Lav25 OOTB
To be honest I didnt feel like shelling out the $$$ for the MH extras
This kit seems to have a bit more detail than the LAv 25
I have already articulated the steering but other than that it is ootb for this one
Nice builds on this thread
this site is the bench mark for modeling sites
I enjoy reading the posts keep up the excellent work

Hi guys,

thanks for your king words about my model and photos!

Bill - perhaps I should have posted some shots over here rather than at ML, as this site seems to be a hotbed of ASLAV related builds! I agree about it being tricky to build a subject without refs, or if they are overseas.. hell, im in Australia and its still hard to get near a real ASLAV. Jason Miller has been incredibly generous with me in terms of both his time and knowledge and I dont think my build would be what it is without his input. Im looking forward to meeting him in person in 3 weeks at QMHE, and killing some braincells!!

Jeff - please dont be so hard on yourself about either your photos or your build! Your images are just fine, and your build is fantastc! Its great to see someone elses take on a similar vehicle - I know exactly what youre going through with your build. Keep up the great work.

SD

Bill, your absolutely right. The reason I joined this site was on the strength of its membership. I really enjoyed reading the forums and knew I could tap into a wealthof knowledge by joining. Yes, photography is not only the outlay of money for good equipment but a skilled artform in itself which I'm finding out shooting scale models. Thank you for taking an interest in this thread and encourageing me.
Wayne, I think you will find the ASLAV a more detailsd and complrte kit with better molding than the LAV-25 kit. Enjoy the build. There are speed bumps with the kit though. The turret baskets built as per instructions will not fit the mounting nodes on the turretside so I shaved the nodes off and mounted them flush on the turret. As Jason Miller stated the bottom of basket screen should be inside the basket not out which I think will require trimming the etch screens.
Sam, thanks for your comments.There is much more modification to kit than I imagined. It's one thing to read about it and another thing to execute. Hope you get your Aust. Lust. O.D. from Mouse House soon so we can see your model with paint. Cheers, Jeff.

Jeffrey
I don't know if you have seen these before but they are great resources.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/235270/
and another
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/default.aspx?c=a&id=2486
and right here
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewforum&forum_id=27&page=1
What is this rectangular piece on the rear of the turret for anyways?


Jason
Thanks for the tip about the mesh going in the basket not under the baskets.
Regards
Bill

Regarding the nonskid
Is it applied to the crew hatch top surface on all 5 ?
I see it in the above pics but it looks a little much on the turret (not speaking for any exprience)

Bill, thanks for the links on photography. I have been reading up on them and there is a lot of useful tips some of which I will try the next time I post photos.
Wayne, I'm not 100% sure but I think the anti-slip is on all of the hatches including the turret.
Jason , you were right about the larger of the two rear turret bins not being on Scorpion King. I am painting the hull right now for a break from building but when I continue the turret I will make the corrections that you had noted. Thanks again.