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Posted: Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 09:40 AM UTC
Hi Peter,

I am also interested in technicals, especially in African conflicts. The only problem is that I cannot find any kit of a ZU23 gun.
Now I saw you built a very nice tecnical with a ZU23 gun. Can you please tell me what brand it is, because it really looks nice!!!

Best regards,

Eelco
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Posted: Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 10:22 AM UTC
Hi
Seb
The pegaso is a resin kit by the Spanish co. Nimix. Nice kit but as with most resin kits the instructions are a bit vague, still got some parts that i have no idea where they go, also has some pe instrument dials mudguards etc. Sorry cant remember where i got it from a few years back
Eelco
The zu23 is an Eastern express kit with modelpoint barrels and some details. Azimut do a version based on this kit with some resin and pe details. Dont think the barrels are still available, got 3 sets off ebay a few years back, actually the ones on the m35 are bigger in diameter and probably 5mm longer, not sure which ones are the correct size.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eastern-Express-35135-ZU-23-AA-Gun-1-35_W0QQitemZ350277539950QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518e2b186e

http://www.phpshopxml.com/azimut.shop/CID/7599bf62790b8c816b792b1b5a17b289/function/itemPageDisplay/shopItemCode/SCA35001S

Frenchy
Youve done it again how you find a youtube video of that fiat ill never know. I didnt know Somalia had any ties with France but I guess the Berliet could be Etheopian or Ugandan or from anywhere else in Africa come to think of it.
Found a photo of a right hand drive Hino truck loaded with troops not quite the same model as the 1/32 fujimi kit but close enough, i dont mind mixing the scales to much if the weapons are big enough not to look out of place.
Just got to find a twin 37mm aa gun or some plans, found plenty of pics so far but nothing i can really use to get the size somewhere near.
Peter
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Posted: Friday, November 13, 2009 - 04:10 AM UTC
Peter
I've just came across a picture that may help ID one of the trucks in your pics :


Here's the one I've found :

It's definitely a Berliet, probably a L64 4x4 :


Frenchy

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Posted: Friday, November 13, 2009 - 06:04 AM UTC
Hi
Youve done it again.
Looks like body panels are an optional extra in Somalia.
Iam thinking this one is a Berliet also.

This one is a Hino

From looking at as many pics of African trucks of a militia/army/civilian types it seems anything goes any age, any make/model and any physical condition with or without body work.


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Posted: Friday, November 13, 2009 - 07:03 AM UTC

Quoted Text

From looking at as many pics of African trucks of a militia/army/civilian types it seems anything goes any age, any make/model and any physical condition with or without body work.



I agree Peter







Another Berliet :


You're right about the Berliet in your post.

Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, November 13, 2009 - 09:01 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy
Another great set of photos 2,3,4 and 5 are new to me apart from 3 which is a pegaso dump truck and 5 which you id as berliet the others look civilian. No.3 is definately civvy.
Fujimi do a few small 1/32 trucks which would probably work as a similar vehicle to no.1. Ive got the canter but they also do a toyota dyna and a diahatsu.
All we need now is for someone to do a zpu1, 2 and 4, I know a resin zpu4 is in the works but wasnt ready when i emailed the company.
Still making something thats looks ok shouldnt be to difficult so i may well give it a go.
Thanks again and keep posting them pics.
Peter
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks again and keep posting them pics.



So here I go again (just hope they're new to you...) :
Another view of truck #1 in my previous post

M35s in various conditions :









with a Pegaso and a Mercedes (L911 ?) :

Pegaso with a different cargo bed :


Aoshima makes 1/32nd scale trucks as well. I've got an old 1976 Hino Ranger in the stash (along with some Isuzu bonnet buses)...

Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 01:58 AM UTC
Hi
Brilliant, Frenchy those pics are fantastic,particularly the pegaso pics, only got one of those m35 pics everything else are all new.
Got to ask again where do you find them, i must be looking in all the wrong places.
Looks like iam going to have to get another pegaso .
Those big merc trucks get about a bit too.
Peter
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:14 AM UTC
Here's a tip : the Somalian word for "technical" is "tikniko" (no kidding )
Another Pegaso :


Nissan Diesel :


Too bad there's no civilian 1/35 Mercedes trucks kits on the market : these are quite ubiquitous in Africa...

Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:06 AM UTC
Hi
Thanks again Frenchy that is an excellent tip.
Not had time to search to much but it has opened up a whole new world of photos.
Peter
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 01:13 PM UTC
Frenchy,
Thanks for posting all the great pictures!

Peter,
Please keep us updated if you hear any news regarding that ZPU-4.

Cheers,
/E
somtec
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:42 AM UTC
Hi
Ok heres somemore heavy technicals.
Frenchy I dont suppose they are new to you but i thought i'd post them.
This ones I believe to be a Fiat4x4 truck withzpu4

Not sure on this one but its got zpu2

Ok not Somali but a Morrocan pegaso and zpu2

Alright this ones not a heavy but packs a punch

Tried another method of posting pics so hope this works.
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somtec
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:53 AM UTC
Hi
Zapper heres the link to the zpu4
http://www.patsyconstruction.com/sm/upcoming.html
Peter
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:56 AM UTC
Hi Peter nice pics ! I knew picture #4 but I didn't post it as it wasn't a truck I've got a few other pics showing Japanese SUVs turned into "pick-ups" like this one (but you may have found them as well).

Here's another M35 :

Pegaso + Fiat :


and thanks for the link to the ZPU...

Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 09:10 AM UTC
Hi
Ive probably got 100s of photos of various technicals light to heavy mideast/africa/afghans etc but the supply of new pics seemed to have dried up until your tip resulted in a renewed supply of new pics.
A new search took me some youtube videos that have various clips and pics but i cant save the vids or pics, there must be a way.
Journeyman pictures do several dvd/video documentarys on Somalia that have some great clips, i think one is on youtube.
Thanks again for the tip and the photos youve posted.
By the way when i emailed the guy doing the zpu4 he said a zpu1 and 2 were possibilities but he wasnt sure when they or even the zpu4 would be available.
Peter
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 09:55 AM UTC
Hi
Heres some heavies from Liberia





This ones possibly Chad or Sudan


Last one seen better days.
Peter
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Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:35 AM UTC

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Last one seen better days.



so has this one (Iraq) :

Thanks for sharing Peter

Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:41 AM UTC
Thanks for the link and info Peter.

Fingers crossed that they (including the ZU-23) eventually will be released.

/E
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 09:54 AM UTC
Hi
Hopefully the zpu4 will be out soon.
Couple more pics, what about a Morrocan unimog mounting a zu23

Another Somali M35

Anything odd about the pic?

Anyone ever use a 1/32 diecast truck as a base for a conversion?
Thatguy
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 10:23 AM UTC
Wonder what happened to the other gun in that second picture.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 06:28 PM UTC
A French touch

RVI TRM 2000 truck with a 20mm gun :


and more Unimogs :





Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 07:10 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy
Nice pic of the French 20mm truck.
The first two unimogs are ex plo captured in Lebanon and on display at the Jaffa collection in Tel Aviv, seen those in person at the museum.
Got some pics of these unimogs from a few different angles , not the best as i took them about seven years ago with not a very good digital camera.

The third one was used by the S. African special forces, they also used stripped down landrovers and landcruisers, unit known as the pathfinders.
The last one is Rhodesian think they were black devils again not sure off the top of the head.

Ive got a couple of the tamiya 1/32 motorised unimogs and revll unimog with the intention of making one of the plo unimogs, unfortunately the chassis and wheels are completely different. Who knows one day may get around to it.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 07:49 AM UTC
Should have guessed you would already knew these pics . Talking about Unimog kits, you probably know the one released by Perfect Scale :


Another interesting French vehicle : the ACMAT TPK 641 fitted with an Oerlikon twin 20mm gun (not used by the French army AFAIK) :


Frenchy