#261
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 12:41 AM UTC
@Aristeidis- Thanks for the information, unfortunately my inquiry is on building a T-64 variant in 1/72 scale not 1/35. I was hoping to get some input on the best T series to start with (T-72 vs T-80). I am hoping for a T-64 variant in 72nd scale as we in the braille community are lacking for an injected-mold kit (less expensive than the really nice resin kit by OKB Grigorov). Maybe we'll see one in 2014, one can always hope...or start scratch building
@Orpant- I'm envious of you bigger scale modelers for the amount of variants available to you, I would be grateful for it. We in the braille community are getting much better with the amount of kits and variants now available to us. I was very happy to see the Revell's Stidsvagn 122 added to their very good line of Leopards as an example.
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AMPS # 1140
Vermont, United States
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2014 - 07:03 AM UTC
A bit of a bump here.
Anyone got any aftermarket track experience with these new Trumpeter kits?
Read as: do any existing aftermarket sets actually FIT?
Preferably NOT Fruil.. the bane of my project completion.. pinning Fruils
Masterclub maybe? Clickable?
I've managed to hide my T64B 1975 kit # 01581 'half link too short' run up top under the skirt, using the kit tracks. But would love to have a set of tracks that fit.
Mike
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Torino, Italy
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2014 - 10:45 AM UTC
Hi Mike,
I encountered the problem you have had with the dreaded "Half Link Syndrome" in my first Trumpeter T-64 build, but I have since then found a solution which is both cheap and fast, using kit parts.
The trick is to make the idler wheel adjustable like it is in reality, to regulate track tension.
To achieve this I simply glue part B7 to B20, then I remove the small locating tabs on parts C6 and C7. This way the whole assembly can be slightly adjusted during track installation. You will be surprised to discover how little adjustment is really necessary! By the way I add a link each side.
In reality only B7 (idler wheel arm) should be adjustable but Trumpeter, for reasons only known to themselves, has made the part with a peg that isn't round. You can modify it and the corresponding hole on B20, but I think it's a waste of time.
Cheers.
Carlo
Vermont, United States
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2014 - 11:17 AM UTC
Is there enough play in the C6 and C7?
I will have to try that on the gill armor version.
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Torino, Italy
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2014 - 08:22 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
Once you have removed the small locating tab (it's visible in the instructions-section 1, bottom left) the inside of C6-C7 is perfectly round and the idler wheel assembly can be adjusted "up and forward" or "down and backward" before glue sets, making the tracks to fit. It's easier done than explained. I still don't understand why Trumpeter didn't do it themselves in the first place. They did it on their 2S3 kit, where thanks to the adjustable idler their excellent tracks fit beautifully.
Cheers.
Carlo
Minnesota, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 08:06 AM UTC
I can also say this works. If I get a chance, I will try to take some pictures to show these parts modified.
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Vermont, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 - 01:53 AM UTC
Thanks for the tips guys, I'd already glued the front idlers in place, but have 2 others on the shelf to use this trick on.
On the T-64 note, I'm driving myself nuts looking back through back issues of the usual suspects for a (seemingly) remembered T-64 build article and I can't find it for the life of me.
It has to be a recent issue, the T64's are not that old.
Or am I mis-remembering an older Skif kit build-up article?
Mike
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Ireland
Joined: June 11, 2012
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Posted: Saturday, March 01, 2014 - 03:35 AM UTC
Hi Guys,
I have just got the T-64B Mod 1975 from Trumpeter and I cant seem to find any T-64B Mod 1975 photographs of this tank without smoke dischargers... the "B" model seems to have them in all photographs I have... Am I missing something here or can it be built straight out of the box?
Anto
Minnesota, United States
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 05:50 AM UTC
Concord 1031 "T-64 and T-80" by Steven Zaloga, pg 20, lower left there is a photo of T-64B's with no SGL's in the May 1985 Victory Parade. Very hard to find photo's of this specific version, so I would guess it is rare.
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Ireland
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 07:30 AM UTC
Hi Jacques,
I have this book, seen the photo.... cant understand why Trumpeter released this one, but it was in service so I will just have to keep looking.
Thank you for the reply.
Anto
Minnesota, United States
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 10:03 AM UTC
Another kit to use the molds and make money, and it was a real thing so...if you find more, please post them.
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Overijssel, Netherlands
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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 07:19 AM UTC
This video shows a model 1975. It's the tank in the background of two moving in snow.
http://youtu.be/TwGQYYAkd8Ycheers,
Marc
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Sachsen, Germany
Joined: April 13, 2014
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Posted: Monday, July 21, 2014 - 08:55 AM UTC
Hello model builders
Have built the tank T-64 in two variants. Trumpeter kit and the tank tracks from Friul.
The models came out, as I have seen the vehicles in 1982 years.
regards LKWMAN
Slovakia
Joined: October 15, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2014 - 07:26 AM UTC
Nice clean builds LKWMAN. I was wondering if anyone can confirm that the Ukrainian T-64BV currently used in the ATO are the "Model 1985" ? I would like to built one with ERA, but Im not sure about the different versions.
Sachsen, Germany
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 07:53 AM UTC
Hello Naseby
I do not believe that the first versions are still in Eisatz today. With ERA in any case, those tanks have been constantly improved. Are you times the different chain noticed on my models? Has apparently as yet no one notices. It's the chains of the T-72, T-62 or T-55 GMG chains. Can you also give a Ausage.
Best regards LKWMAN
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 12:50 AM UTC
Quoted Text
A bit of a bump here.
Anyone got any aftermarket track experience with these new Trumpeter kits?
Read as: do any existing aftermarket sets actually FIT?
Preferably NOT Fruil.. the bane of my project completion.. pinning Fruils
Masterclub maybe? Clickable?
I've managed to hide my T64B 1975 kit # 01581 'half link too short' run up top under the skirt, using the kit tracks. But would love to have a set of tracks that fit.
Mike
I too echo this question. I am making the Trumpeter T-64A Mod 1981 and want to use something other than the kit tracks but I can find at least 5 options. Does anyone have experience with the Trumpeter workable ones? I see the Spade Ace ones look nice, but has anyone used them?
Graham
United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 01:04 AM UTC
Here's a 'review', although most of the text is about the history of the tank rather than what comes in the kit box.
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/details/tru/detail_tru_2051.shtmlIt is not clear to me whether he has actually tried to assemble them though - the review reads as though it could have been written without having physical possession of the set.
You might therefore find this link a bit more useful (it has photos and he has definitely built them):
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234930296-trumpeter-t-64/#465
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Joined: September 12, 2014
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 02:01 AM UTC
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A bit of a bump here.
Anyone got any aftermarket track experience with these new Trumpeter kits?
Read as: do any existing aftermarket sets actually FIT?
Preferably NOT Fruil.. the bane of my project completion.. pinning Fruils
Masterclub maybe? Clickable?
I've managed to hide my T64B 1975 kit # 01581 'half link too short' run up top under the skirt, using the kit tracks. But would love to have a set of tracks that fit.
Mike
I too echo this question. I am making the Trumpeter T-64A Mod 1981 and want to use something other than the kit tracks but I can find at least 5 options. Does anyone have experience with the Trumpeter workable ones? I see the Spade Ace ones look nice, but has anyone used them?
Graham
Hi Graham -
I used the Trumpeter workable tracks for my T-64B mod. 1975 build last year and I liked them a lot - the sprue attachment points weren't too bad and they held together reasonably well, and at 16€ pretty reasonable. I haven't heard anything about the Spade Ace ones.
Jerry
Gauteng, South Africa
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 02:15 AM UTC
You can take the route of expensive resin and photo-etch upgrade sets for the Skif kit, or you can simplify matters by simply purchasing one of the numerous versions produced by trumpeter. Pretty good kits out the box and should satisfy most modellers. No kit is perfect, but I found no deal breakers with the trumpeter kits.
Minnesota, United States
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 05:13 AM UTC
The Spade Ace tracks are essentially just like the Fruils. All metal with pin hole.
Trumpy kit tracks are fine, but you have to leave the idler arm free to get the tracks to work out correctly. In other words, build the suspension, glue tracks together OFF the tank, add to the suspension when they are dry-ish but not set, take of tank for rest of work. The glue will make the tracks shrink a tiny amount too. More on this in a different thread.
The workable Trumpeter tracks are also good, will hold together, but may get a little too loose without keeping the idler loose to tighten the run up a bit.
I have a couple of resin tracks sets, Miniarm and a OOP set from Master Club. Clickable and as usable as the Trumpeter workable tracks. Brittle though...
Hope that helps...
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 04:49 PM UTC
so I got trump's T64 mod72 on the way and i read somewhere here or network54 that parts, except for the main gun which hopefully I can use from their T62, are suitable for the non lettered first gen version. is this so, or am i gonna have to butcher it a bit. thx
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Minnesota, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 06:22 AM UTC
Ex-34th ID MNANG - 13F and 63D
"Fire For Effect."
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 04:23 PM UTC
thx. wish I had a data pad cuz some of what's there would be rather useful. guess I'll have to settle for the very earliest version of the mod 72. saw a vid build of the 64 where fitting the front fender inner to the glacis should be done in reverse..
war is too important to be left to politicians. they have neither the time, training nor inclination for strategic thought
"On the 8th Day God Opened the Gates of Hell and Out Rolled the 11th Cav"
a russian tank regiment is just a collection of tar
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2015 - 04:11 PM UTC
so, what version of the 64 didn't have the AA gun and storage boxes on the turret side, but had the gill armor, and would that be "estate2"?. from what I've found on the interwebtubes, nothing seems to be consistent.
war is too important to be left to politicians. they have neither the time, training nor inclination for strategic thought
"On the 8th Day God Opened the Gates of Hell and Out Rolled the 11th Cav"
a russian tank regiment is just a collection of tar
Minnesota, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2015 - 07:50 PM UTC
I believe what you are thinking of is obyekt 432, the precursor to the T-64 (155mm main gun). While the T-64 did have he gill armor (as did the T-64A), all T-64 production had the AAMG's standard so far as I know. Museum pieces should not be consulted in this matter, as there are many prototype and modified T-64's on display.
Ex-34th ID MNANG - 13F and 63D
"Fire For Effect."
