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BMP-3 Early Trumpy Kit
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 07:35 AM UTC
I just got my Trumpy BMP-3, Voyager basic PE, and Voyager barrels in. This will be my build for the Eastern European Steel campaign and I'll be posting here for all of the people that aren't enlisted. I am still new to PE and am looking at over 100 pieces with this kit. I am looking for an engine for the kit and may purchase a Skif one, if it comes with an engine.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 07:51 AM UTC
Can not wait to see the build. I just got trumpys early in the mail yesterday and have to say it's far ahead of the older skif kit. By the way the old skif kit did not come with an engine in it, just a basic interior far below the details in the trumpy kit. Good luck with the build
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 08:30 AM UTC
no engine in either one, Trump made a good kit, needs some cleaning here and there, and some added details

http://bulldogs.kitmaker.net/forums/165501&page=1

https://hfmodeling.kitmaker.net/forums/161604

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/165501&page=1

http://www.allempires.net/the-modern-greek-military_topic16532_page16.html

http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=338

http://www.oxygino.com/site/?p=551


beware of different peices for different versions, you can make an early, and mid, or even a late I think,without era that is


greetz
retiredyank
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:24 AM UTC
Very informative Tha Pit. I'll be posting photos haphazardly as I will be doing assemblies and photo-etch to make for an easier build.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:51 AM UTC
I'm working on one right now too! I got the RBModels update - it was only $13.00 US @ LuckyModels with free shipping). Im leaving all the interior out as it'll be buttoned up - and it'll save time. I really like the kit; its well engineered and a pleasure to build.....

Chris
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 11:32 AM UTC
I'm also going to order the Voyager machine gun set, as the one with the kit looks like a toy. Only pushes me up to $80 on this kit.
retiredyank
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:40 AM UTC
O.K. I finally felt confident enough in my pe skills to tackle this monster. I nearly have the turret finished and most of the work on the hull is complete. I should have the am machine guns by the end of the month, due to shipping being so slow. I will post some photos tomorrow.
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 01:32 PM UTC
Fantastic russian BPM-3 site

http://weaponwars.ru/bmp-3/bmp-3.html


Explore the links on the left of the main page.

You'll find a lot of clear drawings and W/B close up


I hope that will help you


cheers Matt
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:57 PM UTC
Tanks for the link Mauro
retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 01:09 AM UTC
Can anyone tell me the camo colors in this photo?
http://dishmodels.ru/picture/wlk/00/00338/w00338_1002398.jpg
Thanks.
retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 02:33 AM UTC
Some progress photos:



Sorry about the quality. My flourescent went out on me and I haven't had the money to buy a new lamp. I'll post some photos of the hull, next.
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 02:55 AM UTC

Why do you made that (underlined) detal open???? It must be closed!! It opens only after main gun had shoot, to remoove cartridge case, and than it closing automaticaly.
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:13 AM UTC

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Tanks for the link Mauro



You're welcome Matt





Other references for you

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3k.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3e.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3m2.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3m1.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3d.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3m.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3f.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3-shtora.htm

http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/armour-rus-bmp3/a_bmp3mod.htm

cheers
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:17 AM UTC

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...detal open???? It must be closed!!


No need to be aggressive Igor. It's a simple fix and a easy mistake to make.
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:21 AM UTC

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Why do you made that (underlined) detal open???? It must be closed!! It opens only after main gun had shoot, to remoove cartridge case, and than it closing automaticaly.







...." 68. Hatches to eject spent cartridges from the 100-mm gun 2A70 (1) and load the tapes with 30-mm cartridges for automatic gun 2A72 (6) and their location on the roof of the tower of BMP-3 "....

...it happens

Very good start Matt, congrats indeed
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:47 AM UTC

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...detal open???? It must be closed!!


No need to be aggressive Igor. It's a simple fix and a easy mistake to make.


Why do you think? that i agressive??? It's my style of writing
I wish you, to make a good modell!!!
Karl187
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 05:16 AM UTC
Matt- looking good already bud. How is the voyager set?

Cheers,

-Karl187-
retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 05:43 AM UTC
Igor: OK. No harm no foul. I appreciate the specifics.

Karl: The Voyager set could be a little more robust. Some of the pieces break when bent. Otherwise, there are some fit issues. I had to cut two very large holes to replace the plastic periscopes. The mounts for the smoke launcher are too small. The barrel required me to cut off the mounting pin, drill a large hole, and finally I was able to shoehorn it in. Lots of colorful adjectives come to mind.
Hisham
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 06:08 AM UTC
You're doing very good work so far, Matt.. I'm interested in this vehicle, too.. and I'll be following this thread.

I have a general question about the BMP-3, if I may... is the recently released UAE version a lot different from the other Russian ones, or is it just a matter of some decals.. I mean, are the differences noticeable?

Cheers
Hisham
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 09:38 AM UTC
Thank you for all of the kind and constructive comments. For this camo pattern, do I need to mix paints to match or does anybody know the exact paints to use?
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 05:40 AM UTC

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Thank you for all of the kind and constructive comments. For this camo pattern, do I need to mix paints to match or does anybody know the exact paints to use?



What I find interesting in this pic is the paint on the rubber parts of the wheels. Tell me you wouldn't get dinged at a contest with a paint job like that.

Roy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 05:56 AM UTC

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Thank you for all of the kind and constructive comments. For this camo pattern, do I need to mix paints to match or does anybody know the exact paints to use?



Matt, this is just off the top of my head after looking at the photo but the paints I would pick are Vallejo Model Air Interior Green, Model Air Dark Earth (for the brown) and Model Air Sand Yellow.
If I was using Tamiya I would probably go for XF-59 Desert Yellow, Tamiya XF-68 NATO Brown and XF-5 Flat Green with some white added.

Just my 2 cents bud.

Good luck,

-Karl187-
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 06:42 AM UTC
Hmm, I can not tell you the exact colors, but possibly you will find them in Trumpeter´s BMP-3E kit.
But perhaps some other sources or posters can help you better. ;-)

greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:05 AM UTC
I think you are right about the paint, Karl. The kit instructions have a engine black, grass green and earth as the camo colors. These are all Humbrol colors and don't seem to match the photo.
NO. I won't be painting the tires camo. I have a very large supply of anthracite grey that will be perfect for them. I'll be posting photos of the hull in a couple of hours.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:18 AM UTC
In my very humble opinion, for the colors of modern russian stuff, using eyes and pics is better than using color charts

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