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Posted: Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 09:54 PM UTC
some Toyotas and other vehicles from the Soviet Afghan war









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Posted: Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 11:37 PM UTC


This one is an Iranian-built "Symorgh" pickup truck (licence-built Jeep J-Truck)

More info here : http://www.angelfire.com/nb2/jeeppickups/Iran%20Jeeps.html

HTH

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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 02:54 AM UTC

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1) MOVABLE doors (i.e. a separate piece) - heck, even the $$$ MIG and Vajira pick-ups need surgery...and after all that much money put in them, it takes quite some courage (see Roy's wonderful work on his Irish F-350).
Also, as a side note, most "civvies" available as kits in 1/32 (e.g. Tamiya's and Aoshima) also do not have this option.
2) DECENT interior (dashboard and seats in particular, but also the interior of the doors). It does not have to be 100% accurate, as long as it is there.
3) CREDIBLE suspensions/underside. Especially for the pick-ups, this is not a part that can be overlooked without it being noticed once the assembly is finished.



Actually, most 1/24-1/25 plastic pickup kits don't have movable doors either; the diecasts do. But I hear you.

Considering how small a 1/35 pickup will be, I hope these companies price accordingly.

I also hope that such kits come with full side windows. Some 1/32 SNAP kits only have a plastic canopy shell of the front windshield and rear window, leaving both side windows "open." And yes, these SNAP kits come with a flat-bottom hull...no suspension whatsoever. Don't forget to include the rearview mirror, windshield wipers, and even seatbelts, if possible.

Having a whole line of 1/35 civilian pickups could hopefully open the door to having a line of 1/35 modern civilian figures---both areas the model market sorely lacks.
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 03:45 AM UTC
I would also submit to who ever is reading, that the truck body, doors etc. be cast in clear plastic. The windsheild and side windows could then be easily masked of instead of trying to fit in clear parts late in the assembly.

AC modelers do it all the time...leaving the canopy masked till the very end, often it is even attached to the model the entire build process.

Ryan
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 04:00 AM UTC

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I would also submit to who ever is reading, that the truck body, doors etc. be cast in clear plastic. The windsheild and side windows could then be easily masked of instead of trying to fit in clear parts late in the assembly.

AC modelers do it all the time...leaving the canopy masked till the very end, often it is even attached to the model the entire build process.

Ryan



the man is onto something there!

Lord knows the Miniarm CUCV im working on would have been a LOT easier had the top been a one-clear-peice deal. The acetate windows are a pain.
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 04:27 AM UTC
Thanks Andy,
The only draw back I see is terrible looking in-progress shots!

Think of your perfectly built yet unpainted Hobby Boss Lybian FJ-40 Technical sitting on the table in progress.......in that horrible clear plastic body shell!

It could break the camera.

I would certainly be motivated to get paint on it asap!

Ryan
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 04:38 AM UTC

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aren't these civilian vehicle designs patented?



They are, but that hasn't stopped Trumpeter before..and a matter of fact a quick google search shows that Trumpeter actually gets permission from automanfactures to make civilian models....google their Ford GT in 1/12 scale...the box shows its a sanctioned Ford product.
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 05:07 AM UTC
1939 and 1940 ford and chevrolet pickups would be useful, most people seem to be focusing on modern vehicles.
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 05:38 AM UTC
I don't know the types but I think something like a Toyota that can be used in dio's from the late 70's to the present would be best. And if it had to be more modern, I'd opt for whatever SF forces use.
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 05:41 AM UTC

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And yes, these SNAP kits come with a flat-bottom hull...no suspension whatsoever.



Actually, most of the snap ones I have done (mostly Monogram and Revell) have a pretty detailed underside with seperate drive shafts, diffs, and springs.

This can be seen on the Monogram toyota I used for my Toyota SF Crew Cab.


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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 05:48 AM UTC
Hobby Boss aside, it seems Revell could freshen up it's offerings with a new 1/35 scale line based on the subject matter in this thread.

They are accomplished model car kit builders.

On the underneath bits, frankly I'm fine with tray style or "curb side" under body contruction. Less parts to throw a wrench in alliagnment.

Ryan
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Posted: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 04:19 PM UTC

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aren't these civilian vehicle designs patented?



They are, but that hasn't stopped Trumpeter before..and a matter of fact a quick google search shows that Trumpeter actually gets permission from automanfactures to make civilian models....google their Ford GT in 1/12 scale...the box shows its a sanctioned Ford product.



That may be true. I was doing research one time and the company contact said that reps from China actually flew over to to the USA to measure a firetruck...could be the American La France firetruck kit that Trumpeter released.
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 10:59 PM UTC
Maybe Trumpeter/Hobby Boss should better hurry up
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/mengmodel.html

Looks like this one really comes out of the blue ...

Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 11:11 PM UTC
All major brands, from Toyota to Dodge, Chevy to Nissan. 1/4 ton to 1 ton and every thing inbetween. Make all in 1/35 scale and in PLASTIC. And buy the way from the 30’s to present day.
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2011 - 08:23 AM UTC
ok, this might not exactly be on-topic. It's not all that modern, nor is it the conventional 'truck' most have named, but many still exist, and it does have a small bed area so I'll include it.

Jeep Mighty Mite (M-422). Incredibly cool vehicle.
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:04 AM UTC
I have posted on a similar topic.... But here's a picture after a bit of head scratching and playing with software.

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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:18 AM UTC
I was just about to post that picture
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:31 AM UTC
Well that’s a start, a Toyota Tacoma 4x4
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Posted: Friday, July 01, 2011 - 11:19 AM UTC

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ok, this might not exactly be on-topic. It's not all that modern, nor is it the conventional 'truck' most have named, but many still exist, and it does have a small bed area so I'll include it.

Jeep Mighty Mite (M-422). Incredibly cool vehicle.



I know, it's resin but perhaps you're not aware of it:


i got it and it looks great (in the box).

Cheers,
/E
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Posted: Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 08:21 AM UTC

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I don't have any influence on their Release Program, but I do have a direct line to Trumpeter/Hobby Boss.

So, simple question, what would be a good subject(s) in 1/35th scale?




Hmmm, so whatever happened with this ? I see Meng stepping up. What happened with Trumpeter?
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Posted: Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 08:56 AM UTC
I was hoping to see some older variants of the Land Cruisers, to go back to the Lebanese civil war.. the Soviet / Afghan conflict.. and some African conflicts.

We also need an old Land Rover 109, both long and short wheel bases (with left side steering - not like the Italeri kit) and really, converting the dash board is not as easy as sounds.. I tried it a few times, and it's very difficult - after you cut it up - to re-assemble it and end up with the exact width for it to fit.. and to completely eliminate the seam where you cut it up. I just thought I'd say that before some one says.. "well, Italeri re-released their Land Rover".... Having several Tiger I kits, doesn't stop modelers from cheering when they see yet another company releasing yet another Tiger I kit, and they say "the more the choices the better".. So, why is it when it comes to modern stuff, people always say.. "well, we have that one kit, do we really need another?"!!

I know I went off topic.. sorry.. just had that stuck in my throat for a long time

Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 04:59 AM UTC
Hisham you have a pm
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 05:14 AM UTC
Hi, Jim,

Thanks for the trouble you take to make us even more happier than we already are with all the kits available.

I guess, the Chevrolet K30 would be a sound base for many variants.

Anyway: let's see what you can do!
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 05:30 AM UTC
Though not true trucks, I'd suggest even a Ford Transit style vans and Chevy Suburbans. That style van is seen everywhere and allows for an endless number of variants(ambulances, work vans, delivery, etc.). The Suburban is widely used for security.

I'd love to see more civilians vehicles, including automobiles and motorbikes in 1/35. I', looking for vehicles to fill out street scenes.
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 07:17 AM UTC

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Though not true trucks, I'd suggest even a Ford Transit style vans and Chevy Suburbans. That style van is seen everywhere and allows for an endless number of variants(ambulances, work vans, delivery, etc.).



In the meantime, you can find some 1/35 diecast Ford Transit, made by Schabak. Interior details are so-so, but I guess they would be OK with some TLC





Other liveries can be found...

H.P.