Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Stuh 42 interior?
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 07:48 AM UTC
Hi All,

Here are the adjustments. Mike, thanks man that did the trick.


thanks for looking.

Gary
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 09:27 AM UTC
looks AWSOME!

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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 10:25 AM UTC
This is a real labor of love. I'm going to have to find some smaller gauge wire. Where did you find some? I looked at the local hardware store and the smallest solid core I could find was doorbell wire.
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 12:12 PM UTC
Gary:

Well - that looks a lot better!

Looking at the posted interior photos, I would say that it appears that much more of the ammo rack was tucked into the right-side front space - and consider that the StuH was / carried a howitzer instead of that modified PaK 40 7.5cm AT gun found on the StuG G. The howitzer rounds, while larger diameter, were probably shorter in overall length. This would suggest that a howitzer-round rack would have been able to be tucked into that front space fairly completely (given that the photo shows a 7.5cm rack which looks pretty deeply tucked in.) .

But however.... You have made it "possible" to pull that radio, so all looks quite well by me! GREAT job!

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 04:06 PM UTC
Glad it helped, Gary! I know I was banging my head against the wall when I ran into the same problem.

It's gonna be great looking when you get 'er all done!
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 08:03 AM UTC
Great progress Gary
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Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 01:55 PM UTC
Hi Gentlemen,

Thanks for the kind words. I'm in the middle of putting together the head and mic sets. When that is finished, I'll start painting and finishing the interior and will post pics as I go. Matt, I get my wire at Lowe's Home Improvement. They have lots of different rolls of wire. I get threedifferent gauges of multi strand wire. They will cut any length that you want. I also use brass hobby wire from Hobby Lobby. You can find it in the section where you make necklaces from beads, etc. PanzerBOB,and Mike, your input on this project ismost welcome and appreciated. Good to here from you Steven. Thanks again, gentlemen!

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:55 AM UTC
Hi all,

i have an update. if i have made any major errors in painting feel free to let me know before washes, chipping, etc.




thanks for looking.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 04:13 AM UTC
Gary,

It's all coming together very nicely!

I think your interior colors are all well within the range of plausible interpretations for the variety of colors used over the production history of the StuG III series.

Looking forward to seeing more as your project moves along!
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Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 06:25 AM UTC
I am liking the interior Gary, its all coming together really well. All the effort with the wiring really adds considerable realism and those ammo containers look great
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Posted: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 12:01 PM UTC
It's coming together very well. Picked up some wire from Home Depot. Hobby Lobby is a little too far away to make it by bike.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 02:27 AM UTC
Hello Gentlemen,

Mike, Steven, and Matt. i thank you for your kind comments. im enjoying this build very much as well as learning a great deal about scratch building and german avf interior. it definatly wont be my last interior build. i will post more pics after i have finished the interior and painted the head sets. still have to build throat mics. thx again for looking.

Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 09:28 AM UTC
hello, bit late, but i've found these for the interior of a stug IV:

http://www.armourworkshop.ca/gallery/album.php?album_id=94&sk=t&sd=a&st=0&start=50

Nice build this one...
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 06:03 AM UTC
Hi all,

i have finished wash and chipping. have a few little touchups to do but pretty much done. still need to paint headsets and build throat mics. im getting close on the completion of interior and i can start put the rest together. still have to do the tracks .





Thanks for looking.

Gary
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 09:35 AM UTC
Looking good, Gary!

The chipping highlights out a lot of the detail.

Can you point me to a reference for the coiled leads on the headsets? They look cool, but I've never seen those on any WWII German (or Allied) tankers set-ups.

If you build yourself a little jig to assemble those Magic tracks, they go together real easy and pretty quick.



Three rectangular strips and a sheet of .040styrene is all you need. No special measuring is needed - just use the kit parts to lay out the dimensions (track width and distance between the track runs). The jig will keep everything nice and straight while gluing up and drying. Use a metal straight edge to press the links down flat in the jig as you glue them up and you'll have link-to-link track that's as straight as any single piece vinyl track and looks better to boot!
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 12:32 PM UTC
Hi Mike,

i am going to try to upload photo from photobucket for 1st time. hope the pic appears.
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i was trying to simulate the extra cord being tied as in this pic. if its completely inaccurate let me know and i can easily fix it. Thanks Mike.

Gary
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 02:08 PM UTC
Hmmm...? Well... I think the cords on the headsets and microphones in the background are more typical of those things in use, but I guess the crew could certainly wind the cords up to keep them out of the way when not used. Why not?

I had thought the cords on your headsets were depicting self-coiling cords like on a telephone, and I haven't seen that type of cord on any WWII tanker headsets earlier than the US T-51 Chest Group, ca. 1945. I was kind of hoping that you might have found some new reference for the German equipment.

I've been chasing an elusive "late model" German tanker helmet that turned up in a couple of photos being worn by a group of re-enactors. It looks like a cross between a Soviet cloth tanker helmet and soft pilot's flight helmet. Anyways, I was hoping that maybe you had turned up something that would gives some new clues....

Sorry for the false alarm!
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Posted: Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 07:56 PM UTC
Gary it looks great.

I am painting the interior of my Panzer 2 now, ready for an update over the weekend, I only hope that it looks as good as yours. Those headsets look STUNNING !

Have you got any brass ammo for that 75mm to put into the ammo racks?
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Posted: Friday, December 02, 2011 - 05:48 AM UTC
Hi gentlemen,

Mike - i wish i had some special new info for ya. sorry for the tease. . i do agree however that i should straighten the cords to look more accurate. the more i staired at them they did look like phone cords and it bugs me. thanks man!

Steven - man i cant wait to see your Pz. with some paint on it. as far as ammo, im not sure what to do. im straped for cash right now so i cant order an ammo set. i guess im gona try and scratch something up. do you have any advise on this matter. might try brass tubeing for cartrige and fashion some projectiles from round styrene. i will probably adress that last anyway. thanks Steven.

Gary

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Posted: Friday, December 02, 2011 - 11:14 AM UTC
Hi all,

Does this seam need to be filled in or is it accurate as is? Thanks for any replies.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 06:08 AM UTC
Hi all,

i glued the upper sections together today. while it dried i decided to scratchup some projectiles and powder canisters. the shells were made with round styrene. the canisters were made from cut down brass 88mm rounds. not sure that the scale is right but its close enough for me. need to touch up here and there then i will install the ammo box.
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Thanks for looking.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 10:13 AM UTC
Hi all,

some more progress.
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thanks for looking.

Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 01:44 AM UTC
BBD 468 please dont forget the two wires going to the antenna's. pvtfritz
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Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 02:23 AM UTC
Gary, you continue to impress. I am not sure whether or not the seem is accurrate, but I imagine that the interior will keep the attention off of it.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 08:37 AM UTC
Gary,

Your interior is looking really good! I think your scratched / bashed ammo also looks just about as good as the turned brass Tamiya rounds, so your solution there looks the part, too!

I think I must have missed your question about the side seams during the site outage, but if you can stil access the areas, the seams should be filled.

However, I can also say from first hand experience that they are very hard to see once you've finished the model. Some pre- / post shading and other finishing effects will likely darken up the sides next to the gun mantlet and the seams are then buried in the shadows. If you can't reach the seams any more, I wouldn't obsess over them.

As always, thanks for the continued up-dates. I'll be looking forward to the next installements!