Hello Pedro,
another great scratch model from your workbench. I like your work and hope see more. And is very good to see other vehicles like WWII AFV.
Alex
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Woschti
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 11:14 AM UTC
FJCabeza
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 01:17 PM UTC
Now the question of the million...What color are you going to paint it????? 
PedroA
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Posted: Monday, January 09, 2012 - 10:11 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments. This rare vehicles are very nice and I'm planning the next. A rare "tiznao" called Goliat, made by UNL.
Francisco. This is the great problem. Medium grey was the official colour in the Spanish Army before the SCW and at first, I'm sure, a lot of vehicles were painted in this colour, but with the support of Germany, Italy and Russia, the colour changed. I think the best colour for these republican models will be the russian green.
Regards. Pedro.
Francisco. This is the great problem. Medium grey was the official colour in the Spanish Army before the SCW and at first, I'm sure, a lot of vehicles were painted in this colour, but with the support of Germany, Italy and Russia, the colour changed. I think the best colour for these republican models will be the russian green.
Regards. Pedro.
PanzerAlexander
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 01:18 AM UTC
Damn, how on earth did you manage to make the barrels?
(I know how, you don't need to explain but seriously HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO MAKE THEM ?
)
Great work P.A.
(I know how, you don't need to explain but seriously HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO MAKE THEM ?
)Great work P.A.
FJCabeza
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 05:43 AM UTC
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Thanks for the comments. This rare vehicles are very nice and I'm planning the next. A rare "tiznao" called Goliat, made by UNL.
Francisco. This is the great problem. Medium grey was the official colour in the Spanish Army before the SCW and at first, I'm sure, a lot of vehicles were painted in this colour, but with the support of Germany, Italy and Russia, the colour changed. I think the best colour for these republican models will be the russian green.
Regards. Pedro.
well, not so sure about grey Tiznaos, looks like everybody thinks prewar regulations may have been followed along the war but both the Russian influence and the total mess the Republican Industry was could justify green in ANY shade (Not only 3BO) aswell any camouflage...The only color picture of a Republican built vehicle I know of is the Chevrolet 37 (BC) in "Defensores de la Fe" that seems to be a battered and burnt out green.
But then there are several B&W pictures showing heavily camouflaged BC´s in what seems tan and brown and green shades...
I suppose it´s up to you
PedroA
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 02:08 AM UTC
Alexander, I don't know either. I only put the minidrill to work and..... .Not always make the piece that I want.
Francisco, first I will finish the second model.
Well, my baby finished. I don't know how to make the chains hanging around the vehicle.
Regards. Pedro.
.Not always make the piece that I want.Francisco, first I will finish the second model.
Well, my baby finished. I don't know how to make the chains hanging around the vehicle.
Regards. Pedro.
FJCabeza
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 02:23 AM UTC
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Alexander, I don't know either. I only put the minidrill to work and.....
Francisco, first I will finish the second model.
Well, my baby finished. I don't know how to make the chains hanging around the vehicle.
Regards. Pedro.
I´d say Photoetched is the only way to go for the antigrenade chains...If you can get someone to do them like a chain mail and with the shape of the vehicle contour...Miel sobre hojuelas
Braille
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 02:55 AM UTC
@PedroA - Pedro,
You just keep amazing us with your work and teaching all of us, cheers to you! Excellent videos that you've posted over at your website.
That suggestion may not be such a bad idea! Here is a link to PH Designs the owner operator is also a modeler here on this website his name is Pete 'PH-Designs' Harvey. You can send him an email message through his business website if your interested?
Anyway, keep it coming.
~ Eddy
You just keep amazing us with your work and teaching all of us, cheers to you! Excellent videos that you've posted over at your website.
Quoted Text
Quoted TextWell, my baby finished. I don't know how to make the chains hanging around the vehicle.
Regards. Pedro.
I´d say Photoetched is the only way to go for the antigrenade chains...If you can get someone to do them like a chain mail and with the shape of the vehicle contour...Miel sobre hojuelas
That suggestion may not be such a bad idea! Here is a link to PH Designs the owner operator is also a modeler here on this website his name is Pete 'PH-Designs' Harvey. You can send him an email message through his business website if your interested?
Anyway, keep it coming.
~ Eddy
Korpse
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 11:21 AM UTC
Hi Pedro
The model looks fantastic. You make a better job starting from nothing than most of us can make with a high quality kit
Thanks for sharing your fascinating procedures and methods with us
cheers
Neil
The model looks fantastic. You make a better job starting from nothing than most of us can make with a high quality kit
Thanks for sharing your fascinating procedures and methods with us
cheers
Neil
PedroA
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 08:21 AM UTC
Thanks for your comments and ideas. I'm seeing some
options and all are good (my head is working)
Regards. Pedro.C[ ]
options and all are good (my head is working
)Regards. Pedro.
C[ ] PanzerAlexander
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 07:46 PM UTC
Hi Pedro,
As usual your work takes is a level higher. As for the chains in 1/72 up to date I haven't found model chains that are not overscale.
So I end up using PE from OKB Grigorov which are nice but unfortunately are 2D . A possible solution is to take 2 identical lengths, slice one in half from top to bottom and glue the two parts perpendicular to the other length thus creating a 3d effect
I will watch which solution you choose with great interest.
P.A.
As usual your work takes is a level higher. As for the chains in 1/72 up to date I haven't found model chains that are not overscale.
So I end up using PE from OKB Grigorov which are nice but unfortunately are 2D . A possible solution is to take 2 identical lengths, slice one in half from top to bottom and glue the two parts perpendicular to the other length thus creating a 3d effect
I will watch which solution you choose with great interest.
P.A.
ppoller
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 08:57 AM UTC
No tengo palabras para expresar lo espectacular del trabajo y menos en inglés. Enhorabuena.
FJCabeza
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 09:20 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Pedro,
As usual your work takes is a level higher. As for the chains in 1/72 up to date I haven't found model chains that are not overscale.
So I end up using PE from OKB Grigorov which are nice but unfortunately are 2D . A possible solution is to take 2 identical lengths, slice one in half from top to bottom and glue the two parts perpendicular to the other length thus creating a 3d effect
I will watch which solution you choose with great interest.
P.A.
What if you twist it to give some 3D apparience?
PanzerAlexander
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHi Pedro,
As usual your work takes is a level higher. As for the chains in 1/72 up to date I haven't found model chains that are not overscale.
So I end up using PE from OKB Grigorov which are nice but unfortunately are 2D . A possible solution is to take 2 identical lengths, slice one in half from top to bottom and glue the two parts perpendicular to the other length thus creating a 3d effect
I will watch which solution you choose with great interest.
P.A.
What if you twist it to give some 3D apparience?
Sounds promising idea. I'll give it a try and let you know tomorrow.
P.A.
PedroA
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 05:59 AM UTC
Thanks friends. During this days I have been working very hard trying to find a solution for the chains (thanks Ilian).
First, my two babies finished (waiting the chains.
I think, a good solution for the chains. Hight, 2,3 mm.
Best regards.
Pedro.
(thanks Ilian).First, my two babies finished (waiting the chains.
I think, a good solution for the chains. Hight, 2,3 mm.
Best regards.
Pedro.
bwiber
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 11:24 AM UTC
Pedro,
Here is a method of making chain that you might find useful.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1108885238/Tiny+chain+Making
Although it is 1/35th scale it should be able to be adapted to 1/72nd... with some patience. I don't have the kind of patience that either you or Aoki have (he works in metal).
Beautiful build... I have followed this and the previous one with great interest...
Bob
Here is a method of making chain that you might find useful.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1108885238/Tiny+chain+Making
Although it is 1/35th scale it should be able to be adapted to 1/72nd... with some patience. I don't have the kind of patience that either you or Aoki have (he works in metal).
Beautiful build... I have followed this and the previous one with great interest...
Bob
Braille
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 04:17 PM UTC
@PedroA – Pedro,
These are both excellent armored cars and I’m sure will look even more interesting once painted. Were these cars manufactured at about the same time or is one an earlier version of the other? Will you be placing them on a diorama / vignette with or without figures? Or will these be left as stand alone examples of the real vehicles?
I found this feature entitled ’Making Miniature Fake Chains and Springs’ by Rowan Baylis over at the Model Geek website, if you’re still interested.
~ Eddy
These are both excellent armored cars and I’m sure will look even more interesting once painted. Were these cars manufactured at about the same time or is one an earlier version of the other? Will you be placing them on a diorama / vignette with or without figures? Or will these be left as stand alone examples of the real vehicles?
I found this feature entitled ’Making Miniature Fake Chains and Springs’ by Rowan Baylis over at the Model Geek website, if you’re still interested.
~ Eddy
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 06:12 AM UTC
Pedro,
Simply amazing!!!! I know of at least two people in my local club that would love to get their hands on one of these resin beauties.
Cheers,
Jan
Simply amazing!!!! I know of at least two people in my local club that would love to get their hands on one of these resin beauties.
Cheers,
Jan
FJCabeza
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 11:46 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks friends. During this days I have been working very hard trying to find a solution for the chains
First, my two babies finished (waiting the chains.
I think, a good solution for the chains. Hight, 2,3 mm.
Best regards.
Pedro.
Excuse me if I sound as an a**hole, but that chains need a lot of work to be at the same level of the rest of the model...
Furthermore in pictures it looks like there was some kind of ball hanging from the chains (Very much like the Merkava turret/deck chains)
Perdona si parezco gili, pero esas cadenas hechas por mi para uno de mis modelos serían la repera, pero para el encaje de bolillos que has hecho en esos dos bishos desmerecen...
Y ahora vas, y lo cuentas
PedroA
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 08:23 AM UTC
Thanks friend.
Sorry Bob but I can't see any picture.
Jan. I have spoken with a friend because I want to make some copies about my these models.
Eddy. I have used this technique with my chains.
Francisco. Please, see the following picture and say if you don't like. Recuerda que solo tienen 2,3 mm de altura.
Regards. Pedro.
Sorry Bob but I can't see any picture.
Jan. I have spoken with a friend because I want to make some copies about my these models.
Eddy. I have used this technique with my chains.
Francisco. Please, see the following picture and say if you don't like. Recuerda que solo tienen 2,3 mm de altura.
Regards. Pedro.
bwiber
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 09:50 AM UTC
Pedro,
Sorry about the lack of images.... However, I have to admit that your solution looks the part.... another beautiful piece of a outstanding build....
Have to admit I learn a great deal from your builds.... amazing what can be done by a dedicated modeler.
Bob
Sorry about the lack of images.... However, I have to admit that your solution looks the part.... another beautiful piece of a outstanding build....
Have to admit I learn a great deal from your builds.... amazing what can be done by a dedicated modeler.
Bob
FJCabeza
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 12:31 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks friend.
Sorry Bob but I can't see any picture.
Jan. I have spoken with a friend because I want to make some copies about my these models.
Eddy. I have used this technique with my chains.
Francisco. Please, see the following picture and say if you don't like. Recuerda que solo tienen 2,3 mm de altura.
Regards. Pedro.
OK I won´t say I don´t like
How in heaven could you made that, you´ve thinned them a lot. That will be a nightmare to paint and weather without breaking...
Lo retiro todo ¿Cómo las has afinado así? Tienen que ser delicadas de pintar, pero una gozada.
No se parecen nada, pero nadad, nada a éste:
Ahora el Goliat? Es feo, feo...Mejor éste:
Korpse
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 10:55 PM UTC
Hi Pedro
Its great to see this vehicle finished, it looks remarkably good. The chains definitely do not look over scale, is each chain separate & attached individually ?
cheers
Neil
Its great to see this vehicle finished, it looks remarkably good. The chains definitely do not look over scale, is each chain separate & attached individually ?
cheers
Neil
PedroA
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC
Thanks Bob.
Francisco, It is only an optical effect.
Yes Neil, I glued each chain separate & attached individually over a piece of plastic. Later, I made resin copies about this piece.
Well, during these weeks, I have been very busy preparing a small serie to be sold. Finally, I have had some time to paint one of my models and I have painted in russian green the model who was saw in Le Perthus at the end of the SCW.
I hope you like it.
More pictures in my blog.
Best regards.
Pedro.
Francisco, It is only an optical effect.
Yes Neil, I glued each chain separate & attached individually over a piece of plastic. Later, I made resin copies about this piece.
Well, during these weeks, I have been very busy preparing a small serie to be sold. Finally, I have had some time to paint one of my models and I have painted in russian green the model who was saw in Le Perthus at the end of the SCW.
I hope you like it.
More pictures in my blog.
Best regards.
Pedro.
erhntly
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 10:15 AM UTC
impressive pictures, good job Pedro..
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