Ok ,, did some hunting and this is what i found ,, This railroad marvel has DM62 locomotive engine set on top of ballistic rocket mobile wheeled base "Hurricane". It was built not too long ago, in 2002 by the students of VNIKTI institute in Bronnitsy, Russia.

The reason ?? no freaking idea at all

But stay tuned ,,I never give up when its something interesting

Something about the wheeled locomotive.
http://russos.livejournal.com/620549.html

Phill and crew,

Well, it seems that the Mystery of the Wheeled Locomotive is heating up nicely.... Will be interested in what we find out.

As for me I have taken a left turn at Albuquerque as Bugs Bunny used to do all the time. While looking for info on the Type 76 I saw this...



Ok, it isn't the most odd thing we have seen yet, but it is just odd enough to grab my interest.... so I am looking into it. Have the manufacturers name and web site.... and have dropped them a line looking for some basic size information.

Anyway, happy hunting to us all....
Bob

Dimitar,, dude thats great link ,, excellent pics too and hell that thing is big ..gotta love Russian machines .

Bob ,, mate thats a swampy .. ok to explain what that is ..a swampy is a tracked dump truck which was created by the Japanese , the biggest i've driven to date is a Maggot ..35ton load and its big,they make them in many many sizes and the one you got there is a little one .
We have so many versions here its not funny, from of course the dumpers to siledge spreaders,cranes,tractor units and yep they fun to drive,go bloody near everywhere, this should help ya out with more info on it

Phill

Phill,

Well, I am learning stuff right and left.... a swampy you say? I know it is a smaller one from some of the stuff on the dealers web site, but it is kind of a neat little thing too. Have seen a few shots of them doing clean up work in the areas hit by the waves and earthquakes. Have some nice shots of the crane controls, etc. so I would have a chance at making one if I got the sizes...... Even have an idea of how to do the tracks.

Am going to also send an email to the local distributer here in the Pacific Northwest. They are just on the outside of Portland, Oregon and I am about 60 miles north.

Bob


I find the thing and then you have to go and tell me that you have driven them.... I want to play too!!!

Yep a swampy ..thats what we call them mainly cause thats one of the most common places its used..on any ground which is too soft for a truck .. i drove one for nearly a year and i got it stuck 3 times there are some places that even these can't go as i found out
I know Komatsu ,Mitsubishi and Maggot make those .
Just be a plick i've driven all 3 manufacturers machines ..biggest difference between them is that the Mitsubishi uses a steering wheel and the others use tiller controls or a T bar system.
All use hydraulics to power the steering

Phill

Phill,

According to the name on the dashboard of the one that I found a photo of it was manufactured by Morooka. And it has a t-bar steering unit that has red balls on the ends of the cross bar.

The US distributors have a video on their site that explains how they work, etc. and has some footage of it working on rough ground.

Never got into the construction end of things.... I was a draftsman, designer/project manager and inspector for a municipal government. Worked on street and water projects.

Bob

Ehy Phil

I have other inspirational references for this campaign...












These are the weirdest experimental military vehicles which I've ever seen
They are the amphibian "Trucks" Zil-20906 and the Zil-20961

As you can see rather than having wheels or track links, they were propelled by two huge screws!

If you use a keyword in google the Russian nomenclatures you can find lots of references which can be useful for a scratch build project



ЗИЛ-2906

ЗИЛ-29061

Here two links about

http://voprosik.net/shnekoxod-zil-2906/

http://voprosik.net/shnekoxod-zil-29061/

Regarding the missiles carriers look here

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/05/soviet-army-super-vehicles.html

Cheers

The mystery explained?
Youtube slideshow about this crazy locomotive.
Anyway, at first I mistakenly identified the loco as DR Class 130 and was planing a build based on Revell's 1:87 Ludmillas, but later it turned out to be based on M62 class. But still it's possible to produce one such monster for a What-If campaign.

I believe Chrysler also had such an experimental vehicle. When I was a kid, I remember watching one of Bob Hope's Vietnam specials and it showed one in one of the commercials.

Gary, you're right! A quick search turned up that commercial here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NsmZcLAdM&noredirect=1
Note also that commercials were 2 minutes long back then. And no crash helmet or life jacket for that test pilot. And no "treading lightly" either!
-Sean.

You can pick up a model of one of the screw vehicles from DiP Models It appears to be a die cast model in 1/43rd scale. They are made in China... even the Russians are outsourcing to China!

Oh, and it isn't going to work..... I am not going to change my direction again and start into screw vehicles..... although...

Bob

...also ww2 German army tried something similar



And the American M-29 Weasle prototype was a screw vehicle



You can find other references videos of the Russian vehicle here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=r4lzLvcowbE

And a general topics here

http://www.oobject.com/category/9-screw-drivers/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw-propelled_vehicle

cheers

Bob ,, oh i bet there's a heap of manufacturers out there which make swampies but the strange thing is with all the many versions out there they all pretty much look the same , theres even one version i have seen which work like a hydraulic back hoe yet its a dumper . the entire upper body with cab and dump tray can turn 360 degrees and the cab looks like it was nicked from a small back hoe .looks in size like a 8 to maybe 10 ton machines cab , and it drives using the exact same driving controls as the excavator too . another one for ya to hunt down

I see we are now onto screw drives ,,i've always wondered something which seemed to work so well basically disappeared over night so to speck , i have heard that they were pretty annoying to control and in most cases went pretty much where ever they wanted to go but i don't know for sure , either way when you watch the vid's for those things they went pretty much anywhere they wanted too.
Those machines went places even tracked machines couldnt go so they had benefits thats for sure .

Phill

PS ,,the questions remains tho whos going to build one in 35th scale

Phill,

Well, you are looking for a large scale project last I heard. The Russians made some big ones... heck, even had a little one for rescuing cosmonauts. So there you go....

I am still hung up on the swampy....

Bob

Phill,

I have a question for you.... in the image below of the Swampy crane you can see two areas that I have colored...



Am I right in thinking that the on in blue is a limit switch for how high the hook can be raised? I am guessing that the block is caught in the ring on the hook and as it is lifted the release of weight on the arm at the top triggers a limit switch.

There is another light line marked in yellow along the side of the boom. It goes up to a rigid arm near what I think is the limit switch for the blue line. I am guessing that it trips a limit switch on the fixed section of the crane to limit its extension.

Do those guesses make any sense? and for the one on the hook, is there a wire that runs down to the controls?

Thanks in advance.... and I am still waiting on the "Beastly" paint job....

Bob

Bob ,,, oh dude i aint even close to getting idea for the big build ..still racking the ol brains around trying to push things aside to make room for more

Now to ya crane arm ,,yep thats what it is all right ..what happens is if you run the hook to high it hits the block which in turns flips the switch and stop all operation in its tracks ,, the rod sticking out of the crane head behind the first blue block is the guide to direct the wire down to the control systems in the cab .
When the arm is retracted the hook will be like at least 1.5 meters away from the head when its hooked into the stay for travel .
Truck mounted cranes like the small cable ones found on a lot of Japanese trucks don't have the limiter because to keep the hook tight when traveling they lock it tight against the crane head ,works pretty damn well too.
That other line you see is probably a Teflon guide strip . the arms will only extend as far as the hydraulic rams will allow them to go so no safety system is needed there .
Ok now i'm gonna get all techie on ya butt mate ,, this is what happens when the hook hits the limiter arm .
When the hook travels to high it hits the bottom blue block which is connected to a arm which is connected to a smaller arm contained in the block bolted to the top of the crane head ,when the smaller arm is moved up a signal is sent down the boom into the control systems which controls the controls ..the driver normally has no power here ..the system does it all by itself ,,its stops the hook moving any higher so when the operator sees nothing is working he see's he made a cock up and then drops the hook so he can either retract or extend the boom.
I've seen cables snapped cause of that and its not normally a hard job to fix it but it always comes at the wrong time

Hope this has helped ya out some bud cause i am sick of typing

Phill

I figured you guys would appreciate the story on the Today Show this morning about a guy in Estonia who makes "mobile saunas" out of old tanks...
TodayShowVideo
That would be a quick build for someone with a supply of 1/35 logs! No clear military purpose though.
Cheers!
-Sean H.

@ Phill... thanks for the explanation. Now all I have to do is actually build it all when the time comes...

@ Sean... I suppose finding the logs would be easier than getting 5-6 naked Estonian figures to populate the vehicle.

Bob

Anything i can do to help Bob mate

I looked at the vid Mauro linked and after a close look that chassis is an old Russian bull dozer , probably close to like an old Caterpillar D4 or even a D3 in size and damn what a very cool idea lol

Phill

I just picked up this kit for my effort in the campaign.



Hope it's okay?









~ Jeff

Hey ya Jeff ,, well this machine is more a what if than it is a real one .. it was never built as a real vehicle but cause its different as hell i will let it in ,this thing will be a great laugh when its finished
God knows there's no way in hell i would ever want to go anywhere in it

Phill

Hey Phil!

Oh thanks! I should have asked first but I was in the LHS picking up a few sci-fi and horror models when it jumped out at me! I thought ... this has gotta be weird enough, huh?

Have a good one!








~ Jeff

How about the modern DARPA stuff? The Boston Dynamics/DARPA Legged Squad Support System LS3 (Big Dog) is now a prototype in field trials today. Look for "Big Dog" videos and LS3 on google. This is a great thread. I would try, but for now I am going back to my backlog of Hummvees and MRAPs. Happy modelling!

Phill & Jeff.... well, it might have been a few years later but they did build one and actually test it...

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/doing-davinci-tank-test.html

So I would think that should count as a "prototype"....

Bob