Going to be painting the base coat and camouflage on my Dragon panzer IV H tonight,I plan on doing Wilma/Paula turret #615 and I want to know if the top and sides of the turret and the hull sides were left unpainted just the base coat of dark yellow?
Here's an example:


I have a few B/W pictures of her but can't tell.

Thanks

Karl

Hi Bud

I asked a similar question here :

http://www.armorama.co.uk/forums/203371&page=1#1704347

Got some well informed replies.

Let me know what you decide as I haven't started the Ausf J yet, so I never did commit to a decision.

Hi Karl,
Your question made me rush and look at my PzIV to remind myself what I'd done, since I do all my spraying with everything attached. As suggested, I hadn't bothered spraying under the turret armour, and a few minutes checking some photos of "Wilma", would seem to support this. As mentioned above, the camo effect was added after issue by the crews themselves, this was how the three colour system worked, so there would have been no removal of the turret schurtzen, as they were welded on. Interestingly, my quick research turned up an "HJ" Sdkfz251 with flamethrowers on from the same era. This had God-awful overspray everywhere from the two top colours, so don't worry too much when spraying your tank!

Thanks for your replies.

I to have the turret schurtzen glued in place so am going to leave the camo off the main turret sides/top of the turret and hull sides and hull top.

If you look at Ron Volstads box art there is no green/brown camo on top of the turret roof neither the hull top.


Regards
Karl

In that box art picture, did you catch the camo on the back of the side armor plate?

In George Bernages' book "The Panzers and the Battle of Normandy" you see several close ups of Pz IVs 6/12SS Pz Rgt. Here and there, you see some overspray glimpes such as a turret armor bracket, the back of a shurzen plate. One definitely can spot some on the top of several commanders' hatches.

If I were you, I'd minimally spray the upper surfaces (camo against jabos) and intermittently, spray the sides of the turret and hull. That's my two cents!

somewhat confused. 615 and 635 are different vehicles. The colour plate for 635 has no relevance for 615

just foound a picture of 615, via google, which shows the hull side camouflaged, but the turret side possibly not.

off to google more


http://www.flickr.com/photos/41818881@N06/8747867200/lightb/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41818881@N06/8746747365/

Henk the example is a colour profile from Bison decals and I was just using it as an example,Bison don't do a decal sheet for 615.

Thanks for the photo links but I have got them photos

Karl

I thought you would Karl, I'm only easing myself back into the hobby. All my reference books are in storage, but I have a laptop again, so can properly google and post again. Those tablets are not all they are made out.
Now to find somewhere to install my airbrush compressor..

I made a start on the base coat of Tamiya dark yellow this morning,first the airbrush was spitting so thinned it a bit more and changed to a suction feed brush but then the Tamiya paint looked crap as I was spraying,so I stopped and found some Vallejo model colour dark yellow and done a mix with Vallejo thinner.
Going to give it another go tonight.

What do you thin your Tamiya paint with? I used to use Tamiya thinner, often as much as 40 t0 50% thinned, and found it to flow very well, and less prone to clogging. And because you use a lot of thin layers, you can shade the finish by subtly darkening or lightning your paint as you go along. Ohh, hang on, do they call that 'colour moderating' these days..?

Not trying to teach you how t suck eggs mind

Yes Henk I used Tamiya thinner but the finish was not good,think am too use to Vallejo model air which has a satin finish.