Many Thanks. Got some base paint on the figures last night, most probable placement with an additional chap lifting one stretcher cases into the ambulance.
Cheers
Al
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AlanL
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2014 - 03:04 AM UTC
Hi Romain,
Many Thanks. Got some base paint on the figures last night, most probable placement with an additional chap lifting one stretcher cases into the ambulance.
Cheers
Al
Many Thanks. Got some base paint on the figures last night, most probable placement with an additional chap lifting one stretcher cases into the ambulance.
Cheers
Al
AlanL
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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 04:21 AM UTC
Hi folks,
a little more work and trial placement of some items around the canteen.
Al
a little more work and trial placement of some items around the canteen.
Al
young_sven
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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 06:06 AM UTC
This masterpiece just gets better and better, Alan. Superb work!
The attention to detail is mind-boggling.
The attention to detail is mind-boggling.
geogeezer
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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 06:26 AM UTC
Hi Alan,
Superb work on the canteen. The rusty barrel stove looks exactly like the real thing.
Cheers
Dick
Superb work on the canteen. The rusty barrel stove looks exactly like the real thing.
Cheers
Dick
1stjaeger
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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 08:11 AM UTC
Fully agree with the gentlemen above!!
Love that stove!! Stretcher parties are superb!
Attention to detail is top notch!!
Inspirational, motivating, fabulous!!
Well done Sir!!!
Thanks for continuously making my day!!
Cheers
Romain
Love that stove!! Stretcher parties are superb!
Attention to detail is top notch!!
Inspirational, motivating, fabulous!!
Well done Sir!!!
Thanks for continuously making my day!!
Cheers
Romain
AlanL
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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2014 - 12:13 AM UTC
Hi Sven,
Thanks for checking in and the comments. Appreciated.
Hi Dick,
Same detail.
Hi Romain,
Good to know you're around keeping tabs on things.
Nothing is fixed down yet as I still want to add some more kit both inside the tarp and around the side and some personal kit hanging from the posts. I also need to build a suitable figure manning the structure and re-paint the French helmets which are too dark in colour.
Thanks for the feedback guys, a good bit of motivation to help me crack on with the project and I can now see certain areas that are not that far from completion whilst overall there is still a mass of work to do.
Cheers
Al
Thanks for checking in and the comments. Appreciated.
Hi Dick,
Same detail.
Hi Romain,
Good to know you're around keeping tabs on things.
Nothing is fixed down yet as I still want to add some more kit both inside the tarp and around the side and some personal kit hanging from the posts. I also need to build a suitable figure manning the structure and re-paint the French helmets which are too dark in colour.
Thanks for the feedback guys, a good bit of motivation to help me crack on with the project and I can now see certain areas that are not that far from completion whilst overall there is still a mass of work to do.
Cheers
Al
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 12:07 AM UTC
Hi folks,
I found myself with an unexpected bit of free time today so thought I'd do a bit more work on the stretcher cases.
Al
I found myself with an unexpected bit of free time today so thought I'd do a bit more work on the stretcher cases.
Al
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 01:13 AM UTC
Hi Alan.
Great work again. The 'silence' is screaming from the pictures.
Cheers,
RJ
Great work again. The 'silence' is screaming from the pictures.
Cheers,
RJ
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 01:33 AM UTC
Thanks RJ, it's coming along.
Cheers
Al
Cheers
Al
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 03:52 AM UTC
Hi Alan.
In the series on Dutch TV last saturday, The Battle at the Somme was one of the main subjects.
It becomes kind of creepy how you display such a scene in a more than realistic way. I'm getting more and more interested in this war, by following this build.
Where will you store these magnificant dioramas? Will these scenes go to exhibitions, permanent or non permanent in a museum?
Just wondering.
Cheers,
RJ
In the series on Dutch TV last saturday, The Battle at the Somme was one of the main subjects.
It becomes kind of creepy how you display such a scene in a more than realistic way. I'm getting more and more interested in this war, by following this build.
Where will you store these magnificant dioramas? Will these scenes go to exhibitions, permanent or non permanent in a museum?
Just wondering.
Cheers,
RJ
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 04:08 AM UTC
Hi RJ,
It is a very interesting period of history, being mainly an infantry and artillery war. The first offering (Part 1 - The Trenches) is going on loan to a local heritage center in August and the second one I hope to finish for the end of the current WW1 campaign in September.
I have a couple of shelves set aside for them so they have somewhere to live.
Here are some updates on the canteen, with the display items pretty much where they will go. I need to do some ground work as I didn't have the items when I laid the base so they need to be embedded into the scene but some PVA glue and soil should help tidy the ground up a bit. I want to hang a few items from the canteen poles and need to make a suitable serving figure.
Cheers
Al
It is a very interesting period of history, being mainly an infantry and artillery war. The first offering (Part 1 - The Trenches) is going on loan to a local heritage center in August and the second one I hope to finish for the end of the current WW1 campaign in September.
I have a couple of shelves set aside for them so they have somewhere to live.
Here are some updates on the canteen, with the display items pretty much where they will go. I need to do some ground work as I didn't have the items when I laid the base so they need to be embedded into the scene but some PVA glue and soil should help tidy the ground up a bit. I want to hang a few items from the canteen poles and need to make a suitable serving figure.
Cheers
Al
hofpig
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 04:24 AM UTC
hi Al,
Looking good as always. I love the small touches, the label on the cheese is a fantastic touch( especially as you added the missing bit on the slice). I am glad you are getting some use from the dio other than sitting on your shelf.
Paul
Looking good as always. I love the small touches, the label on the cheese is a fantastic touch( especially as you added the missing bit on the slice). I am glad you are getting some use from the dio other than sitting on your shelf.
Paul
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 04:34 AM UTC
Hi Paul,
Many thanks. The cheese and tea chests etc come as one item as you see them. I've only added a knife and tin to the part and a mug will end up on the green box to finish it off.
Wardown Park Heritage Centre has a small permanent display of WW1/WW2 items featuring mainly Regiments from Bedfordshire. This year they are doing a WW1 theme so I've linked in with that.
I don't really do shows and stuff as transporting things is a pain to say the least, and I don't have a lot of spare time to travel, but I get a lot of pleasure and learning from my home display.
Thanks for looking in and the comments.
Cheers
Al
Many thanks. The cheese and tea chests etc come as one item as you see them. I've only added a knife and tin to the part and a mug will end up on the green box to finish it off.
Wardown Park Heritage Centre has a small permanent display of WW1/WW2 items featuring mainly Regiments from Bedfordshire. This year they are doing a WW1 theme so I've linked in with that.
I don't really do shows and stuff as transporting things is a pain to say the least, and I don't have a lot of spare time to travel, but I get a lot of pleasure and learning from my home display.
Thanks for looking in and the comments.
Cheers
Al
dioman13
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 05:40 AM UTC
Hey Alan, just poking my nose in again, as nice a job as your 1st. For your canteen figure, would one or both of the cooks figures from Tamiyas new feild kitchen work? Kit # MM247. Both come with W.W.2 uniforms but have an apron on which might be appropiate if he is cutting a cheese block or bread. bob d.
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2014 - 06:41 AM UTC
Hi Bob,
Thanks for looking in. Yes, most probably. I had the set many years ago, and I may have the figures in a box somewhere, but I may just make a chap in uniform and in keeping with the original reference.
Many thanks.
Al
Thanks for looking in. Yes, most probably. I had the set many years ago, and I may have the figures in a box somewhere, but I may just make a chap in uniform and in keeping with the original reference.
Many thanks.
Al
AlanL
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 12:00 AM UTC
Hi folks,
With the canteen and casualties nearing completion, I've turned my attention to the foreground and telegraph poles. I have a figure I think will work up the pole once converted, and I've abandoned the idea of the cross struts, not because I don't like the it, but because it doesn't work so close to the road way. I also made a trestle for the smaller of the cable reels.
Pics aren't as sharp as I'd like but you'll get the idea.
Al
With the canteen and casualties nearing completion, I've turned my attention to the foreground and telegraph poles. I have a figure I think will work up the pole once converted, and I've abandoned the idea of the cross struts, not because I don't like the it, but because it doesn't work so close to the road way. I also made a trestle for the smaller of the cable reels.
Pics aren't as sharp as I'd like but you'll get the idea.
Al
jrutman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 01:49 AM UTC
Very very nice canteen!! Plethora of small details there. I just love this whole project mainly because it's so unique. First time I've seen a behind the scenes dio set in WWI.
Staying tuned!
J
Staying tuned!
J
1stjaeger
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 01:53 AM UTC
Alan, I have a question...how much of all these details/elements was planned beforehand and how much just "comes naturally"???
It's simply amazing how you go about filling spots with logically fitting things and scenes!!
I love your dios..!! And everytime I enter the forum, I look for your postings just to see what's next!!!
Cheers
Romain
AlanL
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 03:42 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Very very nice canteen!! Plethora of small details there. I just love this whole project mainly because it's so unique. First time I've seen a behind the scenes dio set in WWI.
Staying tuned!
J
Hi Jerry,
Many thanks, an unexpected period of sickness gave me a bit of time to move things on.
Cheers
Al
AlanL
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 03:57 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Alan, I have a question...how much of all these details/elements was planned beforehand and how much just "comes naturally"???
It's simply amazing how you go about filling spots with logically fitting things and scenes!!
I love your dios..!! And everytime I enter the forum, I look for your postings just to see what's next!!!
Cheers
Romain
Hi Romain,
Hard to say where the ideas start, mainly from period photographs and available kits. I've studies dozens of photographs and tend to take from them any elements I can build the kits into. Being an ex infantry soldier helps with the smaller detail and things that are around.
Whilst I start with a general concept the plan will develop as I build, some things fit where you think they will others need changed or replaced or not used at all. I don't really look at kits, figures and AM products so much for what they are but how I can use or adapt them to link with the original idea. For instance when I see a figure set I look not only at what is offered but what can be adapted or changed to fit my ideas, the same is true with AM products.
Another example would be the railway line, the kit comes with two sections of straight track and I though wouldn't it be good to have a bend in the line, that would allow more scope and give the idea it actually goes and comes from somewhere.
Many things happen as you look at a scene and a smaller idea fills that gap. For instance I hadn't thought about the poles on the ground until I really looked at the open foreground and started to develop the idea of men fixing the lines.
Glad you're enjoying the build I try and build what looks natural an encompass what you see around you.
Hope that makes sense.
Cheers
Al
kurnuy
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 08:16 AM UTC
Hello Alan ,
your dio looks very nice , nicely packed , plenty of everything...i mean things and stuff. The canteen looks also sublime , well done !
And as said before , the wagon with the wounded men and the pushing medic looks brilliant ! What a nice work of modeling !
I give you this link maybe you've seen this already ???
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.karkeeweb.com%2F&ei=mg59U9OTO4ijyQOftIDABg&usg=AFQjCNGI7F-bcDmPkMXUU1yrps8vncXr-Q&sig2=14bsLK-DP2BCNJqleJ417A&bvm=bv.67229260,d.bGQ
It might be useful
Cheers ,
Kurt
your dio looks very nice , nicely packed , plenty of everything...i mean things and stuff. The canteen looks also sublime , well done !
And as said before , the wagon with the wounded men and the pushing medic looks brilliant ! What a nice work of modeling !
I give you this link maybe you've seen this already ???
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.karkeeweb.com%2F&ei=mg59U9OTO4ijyQOftIDABg&usg=AFQjCNGI7F-bcDmPkMXUU1yrps8vncXr-Q&sig2=14bsLK-DP2BCNJqleJ417A&bvm=bv.67229260,d.bGQ
It might be useful
Cheers ,
Kurt
1stjaeger
Joined: May 20, 2011
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 11:28 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Romain,
Hard to say where the ideas start, mainly from period photographs and available kits. I've studies dozens of photographs and tend to take from them any elements I can build the kits into. Being an ex infantry soldier helps with the smaller detail and things that are around.
Whilst I start with a general concept the plan will develop as I build, some things fit where you think they will others need changed or replaced or not used at all. I don't really look at kits, figures and AM products so much for what they are but how I can use or adapt them to link with the original idea. For instance when I see a figure set I look not only at what is offered but what can be adapted or changed to fit my ideas, the same is true with AM products.
Another example would be the railway line, the kit comes with two sections of straight track and I though wouldn't it be good to have a bend in the line, that would allow more scope and give the idea it actually goes and comes from somewhere.
Many things happen as you look at a scene and a smaller idea fills that gap. For instance I hadn't thought about the poles on the ground until I really looked at the open foreground and started to develop the idea of men fixing the lines.
Glad you're enjoying the build I try and build what looks natural an encompass what you see around you.
Hope that makes sense.
Cheers
Al
Hi Al,
that does indeed make sense! I operate pretty much along the same lines (that's why I asked
).Cheers
Romain
AlanL
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 10:10 PM UTC
Morning Kurt,
Many thanks for the comments and also for the link. I had seen the site before but for some reason hadn't book marked it so thanks for reminding me.
AL
Hi Romain,
Another example of this is the soon to be released Tamiya WW1 Infantry. When I saw the set I though good more WWI British troops, and although I haven't studied the set in detail when I saw the kneeling chap beside the Lewis gunner I immediately thought kneeling Medic or Padre conversion might be possible there as I'd like someone by the stretcher talking to the wounded soldier. The same could be said of the Lewis Gunner, is there a prone rifleman there too, or could the running chap be a messenger and would the officer be more generic with a different arm
and so it goes on.
This is the progress on the chap up the pole, a conversion of the Resicast fellow 'come on'. I think he has the right posture to be looking around the pole between the struts and talking/signalling to his mate on the ground.
Cheers
Al
Many thanks for the comments and also for the link. I had seen the site before but for some reason hadn't book marked it so thanks for reminding me.
AL
Hi Romain,
Another example of this is the soon to be released Tamiya WW1 Infantry. When I saw the set I though good more WWI British troops, and although I haven't studied the set in detail when I saw the kneeling chap beside the Lewis gunner I immediately thought kneeling Medic or Padre conversion might be possible there as I'd like someone by the stretcher talking to the wounded soldier. The same could be said of the Lewis Gunner, is there a prone rifleman there too, or could the running chap be a messenger and would the officer be more generic with a different arm
and so it goes on.This is the progress on the chap up the pole, a conversion of the Resicast fellow 'come on'. I think he has the right posture to be looking around the pole between the struts and talking/signalling to his mate on the ground.
Cheers
Al
AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 12:39 AM UTC
Hi folks,
As far as I can tell counter battery fire wasn't that far advanced at this stage of the war, at least not to the point it later became and the biggest threat came form air observation. The RA seem to have spread their camo nets across a very basic type frame so I've drilled a few holes and laid out a basic structure. This will need refined and lowered to slope backwards but to get an idea I cut all the uprights the same height to start.
I also relaised looking at the 2nd picture a cross bar in front of the gun wouldn't be a good idea but I can add side runners to allow a clear field of fire from the position. I'll trim the edges from some of the posts to vary the look as the structure develops, but you'll get the idea.
This will also add quite a bit of height to the overall look.
Cheers
Al
As far as I can tell counter battery fire wasn't that far advanced at this stage of the war, at least not to the point it later became and the biggest threat came form air observation. The RA seem to have spread their camo nets across a very basic type frame so I've drilled a few holes and laid out a basic structure. This will need refined and lowered to slope backwards but to get an idea I cut all the uprights the same height to start.
I also relaised looking at the 2nd picture a cross bar in front of the gun wouldn't be a good idea but I can add side runners to allow a clear field of fire from the position. I'll trim the edges from some of the posts to vary the look as the structure develops, but you'll get the idea.
This will also add quite a bit of height to the overall look.
Cheers
Al
AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 03:59 AM UTC
Hi folks,
This is the basic structure in place. being balsa I might have been better to build it out of plastic strut. It will be interesting to see how the AFV Club net works when I get around to it. I'll need to add some crew before then though.
I've built it crook as these would be very temporary structures.
Al
This one with a figure for height.
This is the basic structure in place. being balsa I might have been better to build it out of plastic strut. It will be interesting to see how the AFV Club net works when I get around to it. I'll need to add some crew before then though.
I've built it crook as these would be very temporary structures.
Al
This one with a figure for height.
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