Tnx Mike
I think the toolbox seats might do for a panzerpionier company.
W
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Opel Blitz Walk Around - Reference
wroosels
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 12:16 PM UTC
Posted: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 08:44 PM UTC
Announcement of Dragon's new Opel Blitz (2x4) ambulance truck is here on Armorama:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/260646
Posted: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 09:06 PM UTC
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panamadan
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Posted: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 11:53 PM UTC
Just found this thread...
I’m finishing up on Dragon’s Opel ambulance (what a great kit) so I hope that I can find some nice pics and info here.
Dan
I’m finishing up on Dragon’s Opel ambulance (what a great kit) so I hope that I can find some nice pics and info here.
Dan
Posted: Friday, December 15, 2017 - 08:17 PM UTC
panamadan
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 08:16 AM UTC
where does the spare tire go on a Opel Blitz with a Einheitskabine?
Thanks, Dan
Thanks, Dan
Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 10:23 AM UTC
Usually between the frame members behind the rear axle. If you are doing the Opel Blitz bus without the side mounted tire up by the driver, then it should also be under the frame at the rear.
panamadan
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 05:53 PM UTC
Thanks, I’m doing Dragon’s latest opel ambulance and the wheel won’t fit in it’s normal place without hitting the bottom of the box body.
Dan
Dan
Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 06:23 PM UTC
It goes below the frame rather than above it. Also the tire is too wide to go between the frame members.
p.s. Again regarding the bus, if you are using the side mounted spare that rear cross member that is used to mount the spare underneath the rear frame should be removed altogether.
p.s. Again regarding the bus, if you are using the side mounted spare that rear cross member that is used to mount the spare underneath the rear frame should be removed altogether.
Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 06:31 PM UTC
p.p.s. Regarding that rear mounted spare on the Blitz - I often just mount the rim and not the whole tire for a little bit of additional visual interest. Thinking of the later war rubber shortage and the hard use these trucks endured.
I don't know how the other model companies form their tires/rims but given that the Italeri model uses actual rubber tires, their wheel rim looks correct without the tire mounted.
I don't know how the other model companies form their tires/rims but given that the Italeri model uses actual rubber tires, their wheel rim looks correct without the tire mounted.
panamadan
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 06:34 PM UTC
Thanks, I’ll try that out.
Dan
Dan
Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 06:38 PM UTC
Here is a Blitz 4x4 frame I converted that also illustrates the spare tire mount (minus the tire!)
I used the transfer case and axles from the old Italeri Chevy CMP truck kit for this conversion, though the CMP axles had to be narrowed slightly. (General Motors owned Opel before and after the war so it is reasonable to think that their designs would be similar.)
I used the transfer case and axles from the old Italeri Chevy CMP truck kit for this conversion, though the CMP axles had to be narrowed slightly. (General Motors owned Opel before and after the war so it is reasonable to think that their designs would be similar.)
panamadan
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 07:38 PM UTC
Have you built a Dragon Opel?
They are sublime.
D
They are sublime.
D
Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 05:20 AM UTC
I almost always buy the Italeri Opel Blitz and CCKW Water trucks whenever I see them at the hobby shows, therefore my stash always has one or more in reserve. I have therefore never had the chance to experience the newer kits.
panamadan
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 07:29 AM UTC
[quote]It goes below the frame rather than above it. Also the tire is too wide to go between the frame members.
p.s. Again regarding the bus, if you are using the side mounted spare that rear cross member that is used to mount the spare underneath the rear frame should be removed altogether.[/quote
well, I tried this, but the driveshaft is in the way.
Dan
p.s. Again regarding the bus, if you are using the side mounted spare that rear cross member that is used to mount the spare underneath the rear frame should be removed altogether.[/quote
well, I tried this, but the driveshaft is in the way.
Dan
Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 07:41 AM UTC
We are talking about the area behind the rear differential here!
I am beginning to think you are pulling my leg.
I am beginning to think you are pulling my leg.
panamadan
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Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 07:13 PM UTC
Man how rude!
The spare on the Dragon kit mounts on top of the frame in the middle. On the kit there is no room at the rear to mount it.
The spare on the Dragon kit mounts on top of the frame in the middle. On the kit there is no room at the rear to mount it.
Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 08:54 PM UTC
Not trying to be rude, not at all, but I had the definite feeling we were looking at two different things and not on the same page with each other, hence the "pulling my leg" remark.
I have done a fair amount of research on the subject and had my hands on 6 - 7 different actual Blitz restorations. I personally have never seen an Opel Blitz (real or model) with the spare mounted above the frame. Apparently Dragon's reference says there was one and that is what they patterned their model by.
You and I have been talking/comparing apples to oranges.
If I should come across a vehicle as you describe I will certainly be back to report the finding.
Perhaps Frenchy could help with this question.
I have done a fair amount of research on the subject and had my hands on 6 - 7 different actual Blitz restorations. I personally have never seen an Opel Blitz (real or model) with the spare mounted above the frame. Apparently Dragon's reference says there was one and that is what they patterned their model by.
You and I have been talking/comparing apples to oranges.
If I should come across a vehicle as you describe I will certainly be back to report the finding.
Perhaps Frenchy could help with this question.
Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 09:10 PM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - 11:47 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 01:42 AM UTC
Front & rear axle on Opel Blitz 4x4:
4x4 rear axle was also used on late-production 4x2 by Opel (the steel cabbed one with higher roof + rear wooden wall) and also on the Mercedes L701 (including the postwar version with revised steel cab):
4x4 rear axle was also used on late-production 4x2 by Opel (the steel cabbed one with higher roof + rear wooden wall) and also on the Mercedes L701 (including the postwar version with revised steel cab):
Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 04:51 AM UTC
Thanks Javier for the absolutely beautiful axle photos of the Blitz.
As I have said elsewhere I used the axles and transfer case from the old Chevy CMP to build my 4x4 Blitz. The wheel track of the CMP is slightly wider than the Blitz anyway so I carefully made a vertical cut in the CMP round differential and this killed two birds with one cut. e.g. A more narrow wheel track and made for an oval rather than round differential shape.
As I have said elsewhere I used the axles and transfer case from the old Chevy CMP to build my 4x4 Blitz. The wheel track of the CMP is slightly wider than the Blitz anyway so I carefully made a vertical cut in the CMP round differential and this killed two birds with one cut. e.g. A more narrow wheel track and made for an oval rather than round differential shape.