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Civil War/ Proxy Super Power War Part II

hofpig

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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 09:47 PM UTC
Come on people we only need 1 more!

EHAM0624

Joined: January 27, 2014
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 - 11:34 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Come on people we only need 1 more!
Count me in


Tanksami

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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - 01:01 AM UTC
Hi Jan,
Welcome on board & thanks for joining us!! You are the magic lucky number we needed.
I will send thru to the admin guy's & get her up & running as a live beastie!!
Cheers Mike
Welcome on board & thanks for joining us!! You are the magic lucky number we needed.
I will send thru to the admin guy's & get her up & running as a live beastie!!
Cheers Mike


1721Lancers

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Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 - 03:01 AM UTC
Jan, thanks a bunch mate
I am so looking forward to this party
, I have just ordered the Bronco British Bofors and will now start the huge internet search for more info on the freaky vehicle
the T55-Bofors-AA gun-tracked
Paul

I am so looking forward to this party




Paul

Tanksami

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 03:00 AM UTC
Hi Paul,
Are you sure it is the British one...
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I thought it may look like the German rechambered with American rounds on a made in the USSR carragige??
Cheers Mike
Are you sure it is the British one...



I thought it may look like the German rechambered with American rounds on a made in the USSR carragige??


Cheers Mike


1721Lancers

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 03:43 AM UTC
Mr Rennie
now don't you start that silly game too (
)
Paul





Paul

Tanksami

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 03:50 AM UTC
Me never Sir!!
I am as innocent as the latest snow drift
Cheers Mike


I am as innocent as the latest snow drift


Cheers Mike


kruppw

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 04:35 AM UTC
Mike wouldn't be starting anything, it was the one arm man on the grassy knoll
But just as a note, the gun on the T-55 is a 40mm Bofors
Mike the Gun you are thinking of that was rechambered to 37mm is a Russian 61-K 37mm model 1939 gun. you can see the difference in the barrel just in front of the receiver, you can see the slotted opening for the 40mm barrel compared to the 37mm. There is also a difference in the drive gear used to rotate and elevate the gun.
bofors
37mm
Here's one that someone had built up that I found
Chris



But just as a note, the gun on the T-55 is a 40mm Bofors
Mike the Gun you are thinking of that was rechambered to 37mm is a Russian 61-K 37mm model 1939 gun. you can see the difference in the barrel just in front of the receiver, you can see the slotted opening for the 40mm barrel compared to the 37mm. There is also a difference in the drive gear used to rotate and elevate the gun.
bofors

37mm

Here's one that someone had built up that I found

Chris

Tanksami

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 05:43 AM UTC
Chris,
You are correct again sir!! And I am sure the man on the knoll was known as Blind Freddy
OMG now the CIA will know!!
Now Paul my friend I'm not the type of man to tell you something is backwards!!
Cheers Mike
You are correct again sir!! And I am sure the man on the knoll was known as Blind Freddy


OMG now the CIA will know!!




Now Paul my friend I'm not the type of man to tell you something is backwards!!


Cheers Mike


1721Lancers

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 07:15 AM UTC
Hi Chris, thanks for the backup mate
, you know these strange people from down-under can get a little out of hand sometimes
, even those that aren't real down-unders
.
I have a question though, was the vehicle used an ARV or similar
, I ask because of the protrusions on the front of glacis, I presume these were used for attaching a block of wood or such for pushing "things" around.
Mike my friend I know you better than that
.
Oh is it true that Australian beer is made of kangaroo pee
Paul




I have a question though, was the vehicle used an ARV or similar

Mike my friend I know you better than that


Oh is it true that Australian beer is made of kangaroo pee




Paul

kruppw

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 07:59 AM UTC
Careful, you shouldn't of said his name, now the black helicopters will be over head and you may have to wear your tinfoil hat
Paul from what I can gather, the vehicle either started life as a BTS series ARV or maybe as something like the Czech T-55C-1 dozer. It's hard to tell, but it almost most looks like there is a second hatch just below the front support base for the gun. If it's a BTS-1 then all they would have to do was remove the storage basket from the rear hull since this version was not equipped with a winch. Also look at the rear of the hull you can see something that looks like the remains of the bottom half of the basket the gun platform is sitting on.


Paul from what I can gather, the vehicle either started life as a BTS series ARV or maybe as something like the Czech T-55C-1 dozer. It's hard to tell, but it almost most looks like there is a second hatch just below the front support base for the gun. If it's a BTS-1 then all they would have to do was remove the storage basket from the rear hull since this version was not equipped with a winch. Also look at the rear of the hull you can see something that looks like the remains of the bottom half of the basket the gun platform is sitting on.

Tanksami

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 10:47 AM UTC
Hi Paul,
Yes it sure is!! As I can't get any Kiwi beer here in Aussie I have taken up Carlsberg
But at least they still use freezers & don't drink it "warm"
Mike
Yes it sure is!! As I can't get any Kiwi beer here in Aussie I have taken up Carlsberg
But at least they still use freezers & don't drink it "warm"


Mike


Nito74

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 02:15 PM UTC
While you guys were having a discussion on marsupials pee, I was setting this Campaign up...
Got to proposals for the same Campaign, different text & dates..
Changed the starting & ending dates, but you can enlist:
HERE !!!
Have fun and don't drink all the beer


Got to proposals for the same Campaign, different text & dates..
Changed the starting & ending dates, but you can enlist:
HERE !!!
Have fun and don't drink all the beer


Tanksami

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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 04:37 PM UTC
Hi John,
Thank you very much for that, sorry about the confusion, I only released at 2am local time yesterday that I needed to resend it through.
So guys we are go from Jan 1st 2015 until August 2015.
Cheers Mike
Thank you very much for that, sorry about the confusion, I only released at 2am local time yesterday that I needed to resend it through.
So guys we are go from Jan 1st 2015 until August 2015.
Cheers Mike


1721Lancers

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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014 - 05:34 AM UTC
Ok, I think I have all the bits I need :
Tamiya T55A
Bronco 40mm Bofors AA gun
Trumpeter single track links
RB Models 40mm Bofors barrel
When do we start
(with warm ale)
Paul
Tamiya T55A
Bronco 40mm Bofors AA gun
Trumpeter single track links
RB Models 40mm Bofors barrel
When do we start




Paul

kruppw

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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014 - 05:51 AM UTC
Paul sounds like a great build you have lined up for us. I'm still deciding what to build
Which trump tracks are you using, are the single links or the workable links? If they are the workable ones, you will need to modify the pins some, their not long enough and a some of the tracks kept popping off on the ones I was building.

Which trump tracks are you using, are the single links or the workable links? If they are the workable ones, you will need to modify the pins some, their not long enough and a some of the tracks kept popping off on the ones I was building.

1721Lancers

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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014 - 05:56 AM UTC
Hi Chris, no problem with the tracks
they are the cheapo
non-workable ones
That doesn't mean that I'm the Scrooge type though
Paul
Edit: here are the kits, I forgot to add them the first time
round.



non-workable ones

That doesn't mean that I'm the Scrooge type though


Paul
Edit: here are the kits, I forgot to add them the first time
round.



kruppw

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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014 - 06:02 AM UTC
Nothing wrong with going the cheap route especially after getting so many kits to build just one
Trump tracks are nicely detailed, just wish they would pull their heads out of their four points of contact when it comes to their workable tacks and make the pins longer.


Tanksami

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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014 - 12:55 PM UTC
Hi Paul,
I am not sure how you reckon you are getting cheap on this build lol, here in Aussie to make that Badman's beauty would have cost you near on $150 at least!!
It sure will look great all made up tho!!
Mike
I am not sure how you reckon you are getting cheap on this build lol, here in Aussie to make that Badman's beauty would have cost you near on $150 at least!!
It sure will look great all made up tho!!
Mike


Tanksami

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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 02:01 AM UTC
Hi Paul & Chris,
I happen to know the guy who made that build you found online he is from my club,same as you guy's he also thought that it started out life as a "working man's" 55.
He thought it may have originally been a Bridge Layer version??
Cheers Mike
I happen to know the guy who made that build you found online he is from my club,same as you guy's he also thought that it started out life as a "working man's" 55.
He thought it may have originally been a Bridge Layer version??
Cheers Mike



1721Lancers

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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 07:59 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Paul,
I am not sure how you reckon you are getting cheap on this build lol, here in Aussie to make that Badman's beauty would have cost you near on $150 at least!!
It sure will look great all made up tho!!
Mike![]()
Hi Mike, 150$AUD's is about 100€ which is also here a hell of a lot of money. But as I live in Germany or modellers paradise, I paid 73€

29€ for the bofors
35€ for the T55
5€ for the tracks
4€ for the gun barrel
I have heard and seen that Holland, Belgium, the UK, Denmark, the US, Japan and now Australia are getting expensive for kits

I suppose it's just a matter of time before we get hit too.
BTW I'm still chasing around the net for information......
Cheers
Paul

kruppw

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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 08:38 AM UTC
73 is still a lot of money in my book
it converts to like a 100 here in the US, still don't understand how anyone can afford to build models these days. The project I'm looking at building will cost around 150-200 in US dollars. I'm wanting the new Stalingrad refugee set and cart which are not cheap in any country. Not to mention either a T-64 or T-80 to go with the build. Oh well I still have time to save up money between now and January.




Tanksami

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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 11:10 AM UTC
Chris,
Those are fantastic looking sets indeed!! So would you be doing something from South Osettia or Chechyna area then?
Paul the guy in my club was only ever able to find the same photo you did, but who knows they maybe more out there now days.
Mike
Those are fantastic looking sets indeed!! So would you be doing something from South Osettia or Chechyna area then?
Paul the guy in my club was only ever able to find the same photo you did, but who knows they maybe more out there now days.
Mike

kruppw

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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 12:20 PM UTC
I don't know, I was thinking about something from these conflicts
1956 Hungarian revolution
1989 Romanian revolt
1992 Transnistria civil war or
First Chechen war
I like the idea of displaced civilians walking as tanks rush pass them or maybe troops trying to help them cross a river to safety.
I was tossing around the idea of a Zil-485 ferrying people back across the river
Or maybe some pontoon bridging
1956 Hungarian revolution
1989 Romanian revolt
1992 Transnistria civil war or
First Chechen war
I like the idea of displaced civilians walking as tanks rush pass them or maybe troops trying to help them cross a river to safety.
I was tossing around the idea of a Zil-485 ferrying people back across the river

Or maybe some pontoon bridging


Tanksami

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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 02:19 PM UTC
Hi Chris,
Both sound like a great idea or you could do a combo of both as in the tank / afv commander arguing with some lowly grunt that the civies should be pushed aside as he is more important than them??
Mike
Both sound like a great idea or you could do a combo of both as in the tank / afv commander arguing with some lowly grunt that the civies should be pushed aside as he is more important than them??
Mike

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