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bill_c
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 06:03 AM UTC
I'm with Jim: once you've built a Tasca Sherman, you'll GIVE away your Tamiya Shermans....
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 06:17 AM UTC
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The flexible track on the newer Tamiya M51 Isherman is pretty good,on par with Dragon DS,on a ssherman it doesn't make that much diffrence.
Are you serious? The Tamiya tracks are poorly detailed big time. You only have to look at the guide horns to see the lack of detail as Tamiya have depicted these solid with a small hole in the top. At least the DS ones come with separate injection moulded guide horns to allow appropriate detail. Even the Tasca vinyl/styrene tracks with their Korean War M4A3E8 are far better than the Tamiya ones.
Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 06:20 AM UTC
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I'm with Jim: once you've built a Tasca Sherman, you'll GIVE away your Tamiya Shermans....
Almost agree with that Bill. If Tasca produced an M51 then I'd be behind you 100%. Tamiya's M51 effort isn't any where near up to Tasca's standard, but when it's the only accurate (which excludes the Dragon versions) viable option in town....
Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 06:57 AM UTC
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Quoted TextAww crap got me all wound up again, I would have much more respect for Tamiya if they would produce their own kits to the standard they are capable of....
Well, not (really ) wanting to rain on anyone's parade, but Tamiya have had 30+ years to improve their game. They're still offering much of their original catalogue...
This should be seen as VERY positive indeed - things don't get ANY better than Tasca M4s. The old Tamiya British infantry? Keep some of the equipment throw the rest....
This is very true when it comes to the Tasca offerings, not so much the rebox of the old Italeri kits.
As you said they have had 30+ years to improve their game and they have when it comes to their 1/32 scale aircraft they have, but you have to wonder if they have their B team working on their 1/35 scale armour kits.
While the M1, M51, and Tiran 5 kits were very welcome subjects (for me anyway), and well engineered kits they all lack in certain areas and are not up to the standards of other manufactures, No photo etch, missing details, rubber band tracks, and yes I know many other kits are not perfect either.
From the company that used to be the leader in 1/35 scale armour, I would like to see them step up their own game you know they could, not just rebox other manufactures kits.
Regards,
Rod
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 07:49 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThe flexible track on the newer Tamiya M51 Isherman is pretty good,on par with Dragon DS,on a ssherman it doesn't make that much diffrence.
Are you serious? The Tamiya tracks are poorly detailed big time. You only have to look at the guide horns to see the lack of detail as Tamiya have depicted these solid with a small hole in the top. At least the DS ones come with separate injection moulded guide horns to allow appropriate detail. Even the Tasca vinyl/styrene tracks with their Korean War M4A3E8 are far better than the Tamiya ones.
Gary
Yes ,I'm serious,I'm happy with the Tamiya M51 Isherman Tracks
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 11:45 AM UTC
Well as usual the name Tamiya generates a lot of interest both positive and negative. As a shermaholic through and through I will go out on a limb and say that Tamiyas M4 Sherman got one thing right that Tasca,DML etc NEVER got. They added a basic interior to the turret in the form of a Breech & Guards etc for the 75 which are very useful for modelling 8th Army ones which are seen wit hthe removed guard on the rear hull stowage.
IMHO if Tasca did a set with the same basic interior I would spend a fortune buying them for all their kits. As it is I scour Swap and sells etc for cheap Tamiya ones which also yield a reasonable set of T48 tracks.
As for Tamiya re releasing these I applaud it particularly as their availability will be greater. Tamiya prices here seem to have gone down in the last few months which means we may get cheap Fireflies and hopefully Tamiya may also do others in the range such as the Mk V, Mk III and Mk II.
In defence of Tamiya some of there recent releases have been excellent such as the Matilda, BT, UE, Char B etc. I'm happy with that level of detail, I do not need the grief of parts for parts sake and stuggle with parts the size of pin heads.
Al
IMHO if Tasca did a set with the same basic interior I would spend a fortune buying them for all their kits. As it is I scour Swap and sells etc for cheap Tamiya ones which also yield a reasonable set of T48 tracks.
As for Tamiya re releasing these I applaud it particularly as their availability will be greater. Tamiya prices here seem to have gone down in the last few months which means we may get cheap Fireflies and hopefully Tamiya may also do others in the range such as the Mk V, Mk III and Mk II.
In defence of Tamiya some of there recent releases have been excellent such as the Matilda, BT, UE, Char B etc. I'm happy with that level of detail, I do not need the grief of parts for parts sake and stuggle with parts the size of pin heads.
Al
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 09:48 PM UTC
One of the commonly Heard 'Mantras' when Tamiya is discussed is that they are easy to build. That, is undoubtedly true. However, Tasca, while not exactly in the 'shake 'n bake' category, will probably surprise people at just how uncomplicated they actually are as well. Not that they are simplified, the contrary, but in a way Tasca are what every manufacturer should want to produce....
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 11:44 PM UTC
I heartily concur with Jim's assessment. I enjoy many manufacturers' kits. But the two that stand out to me in terms of parts fit are Asuka/Tasca and Tamiya. For instance, the Asuka/Tasca Shermans require you to build the hull tub from four walls. The fit is exquisite and it's clear tha the kit desingers and the finishers of the final die have an exceedingly high standard.
It's hard to put into words. When you place several pieces together, expecting to tolerate a minor gap here or there, or the need to putty over a seam -- and then you're left with almost surgical precision in terms of fit -- it's incredibly enjoyable
It's hard to put into words. When you place several pieces together, expecting to tolerate a minor gap here or there, or the need to putty over a seam -- and then you're left with almost surgical precision in terms of fit -- it's incredibly enjoyable
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 03:37 AM UTC
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I heartily concur with Jim's assessment. I enjoy many manufacturers' kits. But the two that stand out to me in terms of parts fit are Asuka/Tasca and Tamiya. For instance, the Asuka/Tasca Shermans require you to build the hull tub from four walls. The fit is exquisite and it's clear tha the kit desingers and the finishers of the final die have an exceedingly high standard.
It's hard to put into words. When you place several pieces together, expecting to tolerate a minor gap here or there, or the need to putty over a seam -- and then you're left with almost surgical precision in terms of fit -- it's incredibly enjoyable
I just got cold chills on my arms. Well said, well said.
I keep promising myself I'm going to build a Tasca Sherman soon, maybe the time is getting closer.
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 07:54 AM UTC
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I'm with Jim: once you've built a Tasca Sherman, you'll GIVE away your Tamiya Shermans....
Hi, Bill, Jim and Everyone Else! OK, it's moot that the TASCA M4s are about as good as they get, and if TAMIA were to market ALL of the TASCA Shermans, (which I doubt) it wouldn't bother me a bit. I would just have hated to waste my TAMIYA (kit #35190) M4s...
My whole point over the TAMIYA M4 VVSS (75mm) kits is that there's no point in trashing them. I bought a bunch of all kinds of goodies to improve them, running the gamut of After-Market stuff ranging from periscopes, hatches, brush guards, aerials & pockets, right down to individual track sets- literally from top to bottom. I have several times over the original retail price of each kit invested in AM stuff to bring my TAMIYA M4s up to par. There are four of these supposedly "junky" TAMIYA M4 kits in my collection, ranging from the initial M4-type, through the various production changes, ending up with a "Re-man", as seen on 6 June, 1944.
Then began my odyssey through the ENTIRE 1/35 CYBERHOBBY/DRAGON series of Shermans, which is another story entirely!
At last count, I have 32 US M4-series Mediums in my collection, not including British/Commonwealth versions. (Not bragging, just sharing with you guys...) Which brings me up to speed, Re: the TASCA Shermans. I haven't tried the route of buying TASCA parts- Who's the best source for obtaining TASCA parts? Thanks, Dennis
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 07:55 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI heartily concur with Jim's assessment. I enjoy many manufacturers' kits. But the two that stand out to me in terms of parts fit are Asuka/Tasca and Tamiya. For instance, the Asuka/Tasca Shermans require you to build the hull tub from four walls. The fit is exquisite and it's clear tha the kit desingers and the finishers of the final die have an exceedingly high standard.
It's hard to put into words. When you place several pieces together, expecting to tolerate a minor gap here or there, or the need to putty over a seam -- and then you're left with almost surgical precision in terms of fit -- it's incredibly enjoyable
I just got cold chills on my arms. Well said, well said.
I keep promising myself I'm going to build a Tasca Sherman soon, maybe the time is getting closer.
Try it! YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 08:00 AM UTC
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Well as usual the name Tamiya generates a lot of interest both positive and negative. As a shermaholic through and through I will go out on a limb and say that Tamiyas M4 Sherman got one thing right that Tasca,DML etc NEVER got. They added a basic interior to the turret in the form of a Breech & Guards etc for the 75 which are very useful for modelling 8th Army ones which are seen wit hthe removed guard on the rear hull stowage.
IMHO if Tasca did a set with the same basic interior I would spend a fortune buying them for all their kits. As it is I scour Swap and sells etc for cheap Tamiya ones which also yield a reasonable set of T48 tracks.
As for Tamiya re releasing these I applaud it particularly as their availability will be greater. Tamiya prices here seem to have gone down in the last few months which means we may get cheap Fireflies and hopefully Tamiya may also do others in the range such as the Mk V, Mk III and Mk II.
In defence of Tamiya some of there recent releases have been excellent such as the Matilda, BT, UE, Char B etc. I'm happy with that level of detail, I do not need the grief of parts for parts sake and stuggle with parts the size of pin heads.
Al
If you scour eBay regularly, you can ofttimes find TANK WORKSHOP and CMK resin M4-series interiors for decent money...
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 10:08 AM UTC
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I just got cold chills on my arms. Well said, well said.
I keep promising myself I'm going to build a Tasca Sherman soon, maybe the time is getting closer.
You will not regret it, the engineering is first class and after building many DML Shermans (Which I still like for range) it is a joy to dry fit the transmission and see the precision of the fit.
The Tamiya Char B can almost be assembled without Glue for most of it the fit is that good and the engineering exceptionally clever.
Every fan of the Sherman should build at least one Tasca Sherman although I doubt most could stop there
Al
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 10:31 AM UTC
Here's two of mine. I also have the Jumbo built but don't have any pics of it on photobucket yet and I have two more shermans in the stash. Tasca's Luchs is also a wonderful kit
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 10:39 AM UTC
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Here's two of mine. I also have the Jumbo built but don't have any pics of it on photobucket yet and I have two more shermans in the stash. Tasca's Luchs is also a wonderful kit
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 10:41 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextAww crap got me all wound up again, I would have much more respect for Tamiya if they would produce their own kits to the standard they are capable of....
Well, not (really ) wanting to rain on anyone's parade, but Tamiya have had 30+ years to improve their game. They're still offering much of their original catalogue...
This should be seen as VERY positive indeed - things don't get ANY better than Tasca M4s. The old Tamiya British infantry? Keep some of the equipment throw the rest....
This is very true when it comes to the Tasca offerings, not so much the rebox of the old Italeri kits.
As you said they have had 30+ years to improve their game and they have when it comes to their 1/32 scale aircraft they have, but you have to wonder if they have their B team working on their 1/35 scale armour kits.
While the M1, M51, and Tiran 5 kits were very welcome subjects (for me anyway), and well engineered kits they all lack in certain areas and are not up to the standards of other manufactures, No photo etch, missing details, rubber band tracks, and yes I know many other kits are not perfect either.
From the company that used to be the leader in 1/35 scale armour, I would like to see them step up their own game you know they could, not just rebox other manufactures kits.
Regards,
Rod
TAMIYA did a very creditable job with their "new" Matilda and Char B1-bis kits. I will not pass judgement on their BT-7s, as I never bought one. I thought their JS-series and related kits were OK, but I'm not really big on Soviet/Russian armor, anyway...
Perhaps the big guys at TAMIYA feel that they could never catch up to their Chinese competition. China has an economy and labor force all their own- I don't need to expound on the details. If TAMIYA is going to re-box ITALERI, FINE MOLDS and TASCA kits, that's THEIR choice. We all know that re-boxing Chinese kits is not an option for TAMIYA...
Referring to M1s- DRAGON is supposed to be re-releasing their excellent #'s 3535 M1A1 AIM & 3536 M1A2 SEP sometime this year. Let's see if that actually happens...
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 11:04 AM UTC
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Here's two of mine. I also have the Jumbo built but don't have any pics of it on photobucket yet and I have two more shermans in the stash. Tasca's Luchs is also a wonderful kit
Hi, Steve! Great work! That's about the level of weathering that I like to portray with my armor. Not too little, not too much. Quite a few years ago, I built a kit-bashed US M4A1 VVSS (75mm) Dry 56-degree "small hatch" Sherman, with "indirect-vision", i.e, deleted vision-slots. I used a NICHIMO "cast" Upper Hull, mated to a TAMIYA M4 Lower Hull. This required A LOT of extra work, and quite a bit of scratch-building and a multitude of after-market parts and PE, top-to-bottom... Long story short, years later I bought several different TASCA M4A1s and I was happy to find out that I wasn't very far off the mark when I compared my "home-brewed" M4A1 to the TASCA kits. One thing's for certain, the TASCA Shermans have saved me A LOT of work, simply because they're "dead-on" and pretty easy to put together. I'd post pictures of my stuff if I had a digital camera or a SMART PHONE...
Once again, great pics! Post your M32 when you can...
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 11:11 AM UTC
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I'm with Jim: once you've built a Tasca Sherman, you'll GIVE away your Tamiya Shermans....
I wish that TASCA had done some initial, mid and re-man "plain-jane" US M4 VVSS (75mm) "Dry, 56-degree Welded Hull, Small-Hatch" Shermans...
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 11:37 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI'm with Jim: once you've built a Tasca Sherman, you'll GIVE away your Tamiya Shermans....
I wish that TASCA had done some initial, mid and re-man "plain-jane" US M4 VVSS (75mm) "Dry, 56-degree Welded Hull, Small-Hatch" Shermans...
Now THAT would have been a goodish start....
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 01:10 PM UTC
Ok, here's the jumbo. I put a couple of large nuts (don't go there)in the nose to give it a bit of a 'nose down' attitude
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 02:22 PM UTC
I will build them all...MMbbrrruuuuhahahaha!
And the pile has grown since this photo was taken...
Jim
Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 03:28 PM UTC
just ordered this one from HLJ at an excellent price...compared to what Tasca used to charge for the same kit.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TAM25175/Mil
Looking forward to building this.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TAM25175/Mil
Looking forward to building this.
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 05:27 PM UTC
I feel your pain Jim
You should see my AM pile for Shermans too
Gary
You should see my AM pile for Shermans too
Gary
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 05:58 PM UTC
Boy if only I could afford to buy all that...
I would have...
I would have...
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 10:25 PM UTC
My only advice: BUILD, don't STASH!