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Black Dog: New Green Men from Crimea
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 07:23 AM UTC


Black Dog announced their new 1/35 scale figures, continuing the Green Men from Crimea theme.

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sapper159
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 09:37 AM UTC
I think it's a bit tasteless of a company cashing in on a situation that is still very fresh in the news. Russia have acted absolutely disgracefully and now a model company is cashing in on this situation, that is still in the news and is very contentious. Because of this I will never buy black dog models.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 12:30 PM UTC
Interesting you think its tasteless. I think think endorsing anything NAZI related is tasteless, no matter how much time has passed. But there are so many panzer fanboys that everyone overlooks it. Afghan war and all its figures (you know the one which is still going on) do you think we should not have any vehicles or figures from that conflict because that situation is also still very fresh in the news? Are the model companies cashing in on that too? So in your supreme judgement, how long is long enough for something to no longer be tasteless? And to be made in model form before the rest of the world can cash in??

Geez cant think of anything tasteless the Nazi's did that gets ok with time.. or the Taliban, or anyone of a thousand other despots and regimes that warrant model form. Regardless of how current it is. If you dont like it fine, but seriously tell us all what your rules are for when things are ok and not.

Adam
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 03:01 PM UTC
This discussion happens a lot on this forum. Why can't we all just get along and enjoy a hobby? I think it is strange that I have to construct the tail insignia for an Me-109, but that is German law right? Wish we could learn history without feeling like some are promoting some oddly related political viewpoint. I am just trying to dial down the drama and wish everyone good things regardless of subject matter studied. Peace. My put is Black Dog makes some quality products with interesting Modern subjects in a variety of services. I praise Black Dog for offering something different from a WWII German officer figure pointing off into the distance.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 04:54 PM UTC
In another thirty years it too will be looked upon as 'just another conflict in history's pages'.....Just like the Nazi's, modelling to me is that history gives inspiration/ imagination to model personal choice. If you don't like something then don't buy it/ don't watch it/....or in our cases don't build it. Personally I think they are great figures and just add another choice to the hobby. And if I was a manufacturer I would cash in on every conflict.....just as Masterbox and others do..!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 05:31 PM UTC
I'd say it IS ok to express an opinion on this - but try not to jam comments down each others throats.... and please understand that many many people don't see WW2 as just historically interesting...
I personally find the divergent opinions on current conflicts can be fascinating and educating - as long as they don't degenerate into flame wars. cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 07:47 PM UTC

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I'd say it IS ok to express an opinion on this - but try not to jam comments down each others throats.... and please understand that many many people don't see WW2 as just historically interesting...
I personally find the divergent opinions on current conflicts can be fascinating and educating - as long as they don't degenerate into flame wars. cheers



I'd agree wholeheartedly to that! To me freedom is primordial, also for everyone to freely speak their mind.

I understand Jon's reaction, but I must agree with Adam! There are other wars ongoing and there are things that just don't lapse for me. My family suffered badly from the Nazis, and their crimes should never be forgotten or minimised!
However, I too, like many, can't understand why a swastika on the tail of an Me109 should be banned (especially so as you can still see them in films!)!!
And I too have built scores of german tanks and vehicles and painted lots of Wehrmacht and SS figures.

As a wise man above said...this is a hobby (or should be at least ) and we should try to remain as civilised as possible (although that's not always easy! )

Cheers

Romain
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 10:31 PM UTC
So talking about the actual figures, I have the first two that were released by Blackdog and they are very impressive- crisp and detailed mouldings with some great little details- a tiny little resin radio wire for example! I'm also building the Meng GAZ Tiger right now and was thinking a figure for the top cover of it would be fantastic, and here it is!
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2014 - 09:40 AM UTC
No offence Jon,but I think it's great for a company to get rolling on current events.I realize this situation is not over yet and it may be soon or later.It will always be a part of history and if people wish to model it I think it's good to be able to do it while fresh in their minds.It took years after before you could buy anything concerning Viet Nam.

Tom
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2014 - 01:27 AM UTC
Really...and I mean this sincerely..if you don't like the subject matter , don't build it. There are a million other things to build. There will always be conflicts and partisan views on everything and all of the people can't be pleased all of the time. Build what YOU like and I'll bet you'll be very happy. I respect the various views on this site. I personally don't like to be called a Nazi fanboy because I like to build a variety of German armor...and it pleases me to build it...but that's one mans opinion. I'm going to build the German stuff regardless.

These figures are very nice and they may appeal to a certain segment of the Armorama family. I won't buy them...not because they offend me...but because I don't build modern stuff. The same reason I don't build Taliban and Al Qaeda related stuff. But if that's what you like....go for it.

Jeff
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2014 - 06:39 PM UTC
Great news,

Hope to get them soon, still waiting for my Local Hobby Shop to get me their first Set.

Best regards,
Andreas
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Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2014 - 03:20 PM UTC
yo Adamskii,
Why do you have to ruin my evening with your political crap? Go somewhere else & post that crap, this is a modeling hobby forum.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 07:51 PM UTC

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yo Adamskii,
Why do you have to ruin my evening with your political crap? Go somewhere else & post that crap, this is a modeling hobby forum.




Your unjustified aggressiveness is ruining my morning here on Armorama! Why are you doing this??

Cheers

Romain

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