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Construction vehicles BIG untapped market?
vettejack
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 - 04:14 PM UTC

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Rumor has it that Mirror Models might be working on a towed grader to go with their new tractor/bulldozer:




I have my Letourneau scraper (tow behind) on order from Mirror...should be here early May '15!!! From the looks of it, should be real sweet! Now the choice...tow it behind a D7 or 6 wheel grader from Plus Models...
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 - 07:25 PM UTC
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Now the choice...tow it behind a D7 or 6 wheel grader from Plus Models...



Do you have a picture of a Cat grader pulling a scraper? The LZ Models resin scraper is cable operated and therefore requires the D7 or similar tractor/dozer equipped with a winch to operate it. Not to mention, I do not think the grader would even have the power or traction to even pull the scraper. I suppose the grader could pull it as a trailer......
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 - 08:01 PM UTC
Never seen a scraper pulling a grader. Not sure it would have enough power if they were both working. I wouldn't think they would ever work together as one would be undoing whatever work the other accomplished.

As you say the graders of the 1940's were cable operated and required the winch on the D7 to function anyway.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 - 08:49 PM UTC
Yes, the scraper would be pulled by a dozer. When I first went into operators apprenticeship we still had two at our training site and some contractors still used them. They were referred to as cat and scoops. And before they were motorized, they had graders that were towed.There is a restored one in front of our county highway dept. building.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 - 10:39 PM UTC
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Now the choice...tow it behind a D7 or 6 wheel grader from Plus Models...



Do you have a picture of a Cat grader pulling a scraper? The LZ Models resin scraper is cable operated and therefore requires the D7 or similar tractor/dozer equipped with a winch to operate it. Not to mention, I do not think the grader would even have the power or traction to even pull the scraper. I suppose the grader could pull it as a trailer......



I recall a photo of a grader towing a LeTourneau...now, whether or not it was actually doing work...well, that part I don't recall. At a minimum, the Cat grader was towing the LeTourneau scraper in that photo. I can assume it was doing a favor by moving the LeTourneau from one place to another for a crew.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 03:40 AM UTC
Seen today on the L.Z. Models website:

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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 11:46 PM UTC
From a previous thread :

Korea :


Full size

H.P.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 08:02 PM UTC
I thought it was time to bump this thread back to the top of the list especially with a nice construction (no pun intended) article on the Plus Models Cat 12 road grader appearing here on Armorama.

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/259283
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 08:44 PM UTC

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I'd love to see some from the 1960s and 70s especially and there could be military and civilian versions. There's many fans of civilian construction vehicles about (including myself) who would buy them alongside the strictly military guys.



The people who would buy civilian vehicle models are probably going to be turned off by the complexity of a state of the art kit. They like vehicles, they are not modelers.

KL



I do see potential crossover by both sets of folks. The "die-cast" crowd could potentially see having military dozers, and the such, in their collection, while we see potential in having their part of the collecting hobby having injected molded possibilities for us!! Just have to work out the scale issues. Win-Win as I see it!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 09:01 PM UTC
Wayne was talking about antique construction equipment shown in front of a local courthouse/highway dept. That jogged my memory about a couple of recent photos I took of two pieces of equipment displayed in front of a local contractor's office.


That Celtrac would certainly make for a nice model!


This equipment is on display in Harrodsburg, KY.

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Also on display in Harrodsburg, KY. This very well maintainedSherman. Hats off to the local government officials and the Garden Club!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 09:11 PM UTC
I didn't see this in the list of models, Hasegawa makes a Hitachi double armed track hoe in 1/35. It is a very nice kit, around $40. Great thing about it is it can be converted to a conventional track hoe. This track hoe is very popular in the US under the John Deere name. I also have heard that Hasegawa will release it as a conventional back hoe.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 03:30 PM UTC
New fairly modern road roller coming from Plus Models. Read more over at:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/259309
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Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 04:41 PM UTC

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I suspect that licensing has something to do with it, especially with Caterpillar vehicles. Sure, die-casts are available but they are expensive, licensed, and also sold by Cat. I don't know how Meng got around it (I don't have my kit here but does it even mention "Cat" on the box?).

Jim



I have reliable news from a distributor that the Meng D9 will not be restocked and production has ceased. Cat is demanding royalties and licensing fees, Meng ain't playing that game. Same thing will happen to the D7, unfortunately.



Looks like I better go get one now
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Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 04:59 PM UTC
Interesting point on the D7: The MiniArt offering is covered with raised cast lettering Cat badges, on the engine, on the hood flarings, etc. However the Mirror Models kit has no such Caterpillar markings. Are we soon to see MiniArt get forced out of production on the D7?

I certainly wish Caterpillar would lighten up and just accept the free advertising for a product name that is already well known the world over.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 - 05:22 PM UTC

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I didn't see this in the list of models, Hasegawa makes a Hitachi double armed track hoe in 1/35. It is a very nice kit, around $40. Great thing about it is it can be converted to a conventional track hoe. This track hoe is very popular in the US under the John Deere name. I also have heard that Hasegawa will release it as a conventional back hoe.



Actually the Hasegawa 1/35 Hitachi 135US Excavator version has been out for a few months now; it's a beautiful kit.

Here's a photo of mine:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc206/carrollkevin/009%201600x1200_zpsmuldl3f6.jpg
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