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M923A1 "Big Foot" - Italeri - 1:35
Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 02:29 PM UTC
Hello,

As a fanatic panzer modeller sometimes I like a little variety of something new.

This time its a very old Italeri kit presenting the Big Foot 5 ton track.

The build will be upgraded with the Eduard PE set and DEF resin wheels - in my opinion You shouldn't start build of this kit without that.



Lets see, how far I will get with this project
HeavyArty
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 06:39 PM UTC
You definitely need the new wheels, the PE not so much. Here is Pawel's article on super-detailing the M923A1.

It is rough, but can come out really nice w/some TLC.
GTDeath13
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 07:56 PM UTC
Legend makes a M923 detail set:
http://www-legend.co.kr/portfolio/lf1244-m923-detailing-set/

I think it can be used to detail up the M925 too. Isn't the M925 a M923 with a winch at the front?

Will be watching your build, I intend to do something similar.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 08:06 PM UTC
Either version can have the winch. An M923 has the six big wheels. An M925 has 10 wheels like a civilian truck.
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 08:14 PM UTC
I had not a good experience with this kit. Assembly are in general bad and poor or wrong details on all the kit.

Can't wait to see your built.
GTDeath13
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 08:25 PM UTC

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Either version can have the winch. An M923 has the six big wheels. An M925 has 10 wheels like a civilian truck.



Thank you for the clarification sir. I was a little confused on that matter.

Sorry for the
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 08:37 PM UTC
How is the shooting position for the gunner to use the M2 machine gun ?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 09:58 PM UTC

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How is the shooting position for the gunner to use the M2 machine gun ?



There is a ring mount added above the passenger seat. The gunner stands on the folded down seat back to fire the gun.




Italeri's M923A1 kit comes with the ring mount parts as an option, as shown on the boxart.
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Posted: Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 10:27 PM UTC
If you need a good reference book, look at wings and wheels publication. They made a really good reference book for the M923 truck series!
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Posted: Sunday, February 07, 2016 - 07:09 PM UTC
The cab is tricky to assemble (the walls come in multiple parts) and getting the exhaust to aline with the cab assembly also takes a lot of dry fitting and planning ahead. The wheels definitely need aftermarket replacements.
terminators
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Posted: Sunday, February 07, 2016 - 11:42 PM UTC

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How is the shooting position for the gunner to use the M2 machine gun ?



There is a ring mount added above the passenger seat. The gunner stands on the folded down seat back to fire the gun.




Italeri's M923A1 kit comes with the ring mount parts as an option, as shown on the boxart.



OK thank you. It is strange gunner platforms are rarely represented in kits.

Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 - 12:56 AM UTC
Hello,
Im planing to make a version without a material roof to show the interior.

Actualy the basic work was about the main frame.








thunderchief83
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Posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 - 06:12 AM UTC
you are correct about the difference between the m923 and the m925. 925 has the winch. 923 does not. either one can have 10 tires or the 6 super single tires. m923 would be a m925 if it had a winch. I own a m925 with the winch and had the 10 smaller tires and changed them to the 6 super singles. hope this helps you.
Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2016 - 10:19 PM UTC
Hello,

The real upgrade job has started.

First the side elements

Everything is changed into PE elements

Real element:

Side box with the canister rack

This element wa the most non-similar to the real one - need to be completely changed

Real one:

Last one


Just trying to slowly keep the work
Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 10:43 PM UTC
The may is always a good time, to speed a bit with the projects like that.

So I've made some major progres with the cab replacing a lot of elements to PE parts



The main elements of the construction frame are in place


I've alredy replaced the interior parts and remake the seats fabric structure



Hope to spray the surfracer soon
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 11:10 PM UTC
Looks like it is coming along well. A note on the cab interior though. The M900 series trucks have automatic transmissions. The gear shift lever (Italeri got that wrong) and clutch pedal should not be there. There is a T-bar on top of the box coming off the instrument panel for shifting into gear ranges and a central, large brake pedal.



Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 11:48 PM UTC
Thanks for the photos, looks like Italeri didn't make homework as it should be done.

I'm making the version with the hood, so there will not be a lot to see inside the cab.

Anyway, even the Eduard did'nt correct this parts.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 06:43 AM UTC
Build it how you like, but it is still easy to fix at this point. I would want it accurately portrayed.
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 06:52 AM UTC
Just saw this and it's nice to see this old kit get some love. We sure need a new tool kit of these trucks. Come on Meng get your tools on!
Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 12:21 AM UTC
I've just sprayed the surfracer and thats the effects:







I've also removed the wood pattern on the floor.

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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 01:43 AM UTC

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you are correct about the difference between the m923 and the m925. 925 has the winch. 923 does not. either one can have 10 tires or the 6 super single tires. m923 would be a m925 if it had a winch. I own a m925 with the winch and had the 10 smaller tires and changed them to the 6 super singles. hope this helps you.


Close, but still not entirely correct. M923 has 10 wheels and no winch. M925 has 10 wheels and a winch. With six larger wheels they become M923A1 and M925A1 respectively, and with the CTIS (central tire inflation system) they become M923A2 and M925A2.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 03:10 AM UTC
Looking good. The bed should have no lines either. It is a solid sheet of steel.


Thirian24
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 07:29 AM UTC
I want to buy the A2 wheels/tires for mine. But I want the tread pattern portrayed on the box.
Stojkovic1987
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 04:20 PM UTC
Thanks for the photos of the bed.

Bad luck I didn't saw them before the surfracer...
GazzaS
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 04:37 PM UTC
I could never build one of these...

I lived out of the back of them sooooo many days and nights.
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