What manufacturer is making a Panther II? Dragon is the only game I believe. Grumble or not they are releasing the kit. If you want one get it now. Now if Trumpeter, Takom or Meng broke tradition and made a WWII kit (I don't seriously think that a Panther II kit would be the first WWII kit they make) and it was a Panther II then Dragon might reduce the price but until then they are the only game in town. Supply and demand and they are the only supply.

It's not a Panther II. Dragon may call it a Panther II but the accuracy issues put the kit squarely into the realm of a fiction creation.

This is how capitalism works, if no one buys the kit at the price they wont make a profit and will either have to lower the price or make a loss.

The worry is that people will pay the price for the kit

While I agree it's a bugger that Dragon is charging such high prices for what is a long out of date kit, I'd like to scratch something that has just starting to really itch now:

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To All following this thread:

Kids with a low-spending allowance? Have any of you visited any of our College campuses lately? I see snot-nosed brats driving around in brand-new BMWs who could give a crap if there's anyone crossing the streets- they'd just as soon run the pedestrians over. I see all kinds of other stuff going on, which I WON'T BOTHER TO GO INTO at this time. Does anyone think that today's adolescent is going to fork over $50-$70 (retail, that is) for a plastic MODEL?!?

NOT ON YOUR LIFE!!! They'd rather bug Mom and/or Dad for the latest Top-Dollar Samsung S-whatever-happens-to-be-the-newest-phone-released-in-the-last-5-minutes, which will cost upwards of $600-$700 bucks... And you know what? Mom and/or Dad will oblige...

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Ahem... I am one of "snot-nosed brats driving around in brand-new BMWs who could give a crap if there's anyone crossing the streets" college students and I highly object to this mostly unfounded, and HIGHLY insulting, blanket statement that all or most college/university students are this way. This is mostly untrue and I highly resent it. While there are a few who are like this, the overall vast majority are very studious, nice people.

Many people I know did not beg their parents to buy them phones but instead bought their phones themselves. I myself had to create a detailed spreadsheet and explain my reasoning for getting a new cell phone, going from a 4 year old company-type "dumb phone" to a smart phone, and my reasons for the specific phone I wanted to get. That was just to get them to consider it. They did not oblige immediately. During much of the year, I don't have a job - my job is seasonal as I work at a beach for minimum wage I might add - and hence little income. I spend very little money most of the time. And when I do, it's almost always MY OWN money. I can't speak for others but I myself do not beg or plead or bug my parents to give me money to spend. And to be honest, many people are perfectly content to use a phone that they already have. They don't need to have the newest, biggest or best of whatever. Believe it or not but I don't think most college age people are that loose with money.


To add to this, I also know of more "brats" who drive Ford Mustangs or suped-up Hondas than those who drive BMWs. Come to think of it, I know of more than a few 40, 50 or 60 year old people who are that way that drive BMWs (or Audi's or Mercedes or Land/Range Rovers or anything else) as well.

As a final word here, Dennis, are you trying to say that your generation was distinctively and vastly different than this generation when you were in your early twenties? Is your generation when they were in their 20's so different and so much better from ours that now comparisons can't be drawn between them? While there are some distinct differences between your generation and mine, overall, I think overall they are essentially the same. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

But just to clarify if it is unclear, I could not actually buy my cell phone myself. At the time I had gotten it it was around the mid-point of my first year on the job (and my first actual job at that) and I did not have the money to buy it. I was also being paid BELOW minimum wage. I made the spreadsheet on my own accord and explained the reasonings. My parents did purchase the cell phone for me as an upgrade from my previous cell phone. I helped pay off a portion of each bill. But I could not buy my own cell phone. Just in case you're wondering if I "begged" for my "$600 phone." Call my generation spoiled-brats-who-couldn't-give-a-damn all you want. But know that that is not who the majority is. And I didn't become an Eagle Scout by being a lazy, spoiled brat.

And that is my final word.

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This is how capitalism works, if no one buys the kit at the price they wont make a profit and will either have to lower the price or make a loss.

The worry is that people will pay the price for the kit

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And if they pay the price and buy the kit, it will show that it was in demand.

Blame Obama, he fixed the American economy and seems everyone still blames him.

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Looks like they took a page out of the Tamiya play book.

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I'll agree with this post, too. Only thing is, over the last 15 years or so, at least as far as 1/35 Armor, AFVs and Soft-skins are concerned, TAMIYA has been eclipsed by quite a few "new" Big Players- TRUMPETER, HOBBY BOSS, MENG, TAKOM, er- DRAGON, MIRROR, AFV CLUB, etc... TAMIYA has been re-packaging their old stuff and other manufacturers for quite a long time... Wherever the money is, I guess...

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There has been an awful lot of new tool Tamiya stuff coming out also though,good stuff too.
Jagdpanzer Lang
Easy 8
Panther
WWI Mark IV
Isherman
Jagdtiger
JSU-152 and JS-2
AMX-13
SU-76

So it's not just reboxes with Tamiya