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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 02:02 AM UTC
Business is business, and there’s a huge market in the Far East, and specially Japan, ready for all kinds of modelling with a far more open mind towards the hobby than we westerners usually have. The best point is that a whole new generation of modellers is growing thanks to all these “strange” trends, while in the West the influx of young modellers is nearly nil, specially compared with past decades.

“Girls & Panzer” has been a social phenomenon in Japan, and there are literally hundreds of teenagers (mainly girls) running blogs where they share with utmost illusion their kits, techniques and tips. Ok, that could last just as long as the series, but for sure a fraction of all these newcomers will follow in the hobby, maybe military, maybe not, but for sure “making the numbers” for the hobby to remain there as healthy as allways. Could we say the same here?

And in the case of “Girls & Panzer”, the better point for us has been the possibility to get some superb kits like the Type 89 from Fine Molds at ridicuously low prices compared to the normal releases
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 02:11 AM UTC
Again, I think people need to realize there is a market for models outside of North America. Outside North America, the model market is larger and has more variety.
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 02:43 AM UTC
If you ever get the opportunity to go to Akihabara District in Tokyo (arguably the epi-centre for this entire hobby) you'll see literally dozens of maid and loli cafes where both girls and guys dressed up serve tea and sweets. Beyond our narrow scope of "Girls und Panzer" there's a whole world of hobbyists with spending money to splurge. MB might be onto something.

As to the uptightness or otherwise of "morality-guards" well... just look at the unbelievable mess in certain countries right now!
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 02:45 AM UTC
Boy's....always figthing for girls...
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 03:46 AM UTC

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Maybe my problem, but how on earth do you come from these funny figures to porn? To me it looks that in the USA showing a bare knee is already tricky! ( but maybe the standards will change after DT enters The Office?)
I guess the Masterbox staff sees a market for this kind of modelling.Why otherwise invest quite some mony in the moulds, marketing etc.
Porn? Ahum......




How does my personal opinion represent the the United States of America? Hate Americans and our 2nd amendment much? I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country. Pretty fed up with ungrateful countries like yours blaming all the world's problems on us. A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?



Are you retarded or something?
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 03:54 AM UTC

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Maybe my problem, but how on earth do you come from these funny figures to porn? To me it looks that in the USA showing a bare knee is already tricky! ( but maybe the standards will change after DT enters The Office?)
I guess the Masterbox staff sees a market for this kind of modelling.Why otherwise invest quite some mony in the moulds, marketing etc.
Porn? Ahum......




How does my personal opinion represent the the United States of America? Hate Americans and our 2nd amendment much? I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country. Pretty fed up with ungrateful countries like yours blaming all the world's problems on us. A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?




This response is, IMO totally out of the realms of decency. How on Earth does the 2nd Amendment even enter into this? This is just an over the top ad homonym attack.
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 04:19 AM UTC
I agree, and for the record North Dakota does not represent the rest of the United States, so please don't let the combative asshattery of its inhabitants sway your opinion of the rest of us.
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 06:10 AM UTC
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How does my personal opinion represent the the United States of America? Hate Americans and our 2nd amendment much? I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country. Pretty fed up with ungrateful countries like yours blaming all the world's problems on us. A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?[/quote]

WoW.... unbelievable....and if his Grandfather is one of the many Duch figth against the nazi have also a chance his Grand fater save your grand fater life!?....or like my wife Duch grand father figh in the bloody jungle of Indonesia against Japanese?....un likely no F*#%@ closet in jungle!


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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 06:31 AM UTC

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A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?



New flash Team America, not everyone wants your help or attitude.
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 07:21 AM UTC
I don't see what the uproar about decency is all about, these hardly come near to being vulgar or indecent. Personally, I don't quite get the appeal of building these kits myself, but then, I don't get the egg plane craze either. I know both are big overseas so there is obviously a market for them, and I'm not going to knock anyone that builds them. People have they're tastes in kits. You dont see people calling for anyone that buys the 800th version of a DML Pz.III to be forced into therapy. Plus it's a plastic figure, whats the worst anyone would do with it?


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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 08:37 AM UTC

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Maybe my problem, but how on earth do you come from these funny figures to porn? To me it looks that in the USA showing a bare knee is already tricky! ( but maybe the standards will change after DT enters The Office?)
I guess the Masterbox staff sees a market for this kind of modelling.Why otherwise invest quite some mony in the moulds, marketing etc.
Porn? Ahum......




How does my personal opinion represent the the United States of America? Hate Americans and our 2nd amendment much? I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country. Pretty fed up with ungrateful countries like yours blaming all the world's problems on us. A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?



Dear Ken,

Though I have considered to neglect your answer, the unbelievable remarks require some answers (the rest of the modellers is not addressed):
1. My grandfather was a full colonel at the beginning of the war, fighting the German forces at the south eastern boarder until the they had to seize fighting. Many of his troops became severely wounded or even killed. So suggesting that he hide in a closet is, well, let's say, a bit offensive!
Anyway, since not all Low Country people were waiting in their cellars for Uncle Sam to come and liberate them he went, via France and Spain, to the UK. No, not to avoid any hostilities, but to join the Dutch Princess Irene Brigade. Yes, you may wonder, but there were so much 'cowards' that it was possible to form a whole brigade. These men fought along the UK troops their way into The Netherlands. And my grandmother? Nope, so she was already married to my grandpa, so she, without any doubt, cheered the troops which came to liberate her, but didn't need a Yank to become happy.
Furthermore, there a quite some people I know who discuss the present US politics. But, for some reason, we all are smart enough to figure out that, though the US impact on some things is huge, you can not be blamed for everything. Sorry, if you thought we did. Here, most of us know that there are approx. 126 other countries!
Last but not least, cowardness is not something may Europeans suffer from. Together with many other (young) soldiers we join missions along your troops. I was one of them 6 times!
Summarizing:
I guess you had a bad day while you wrote your comments. Maybe the carpet monster swallowed some parts, maybe your air brush stopped.
Anyway, feel forgiven about offending my grandfather. I can understand that you may feel bad about none of the Europeans writing you a letter of thanks for liberating us. Therefore, do accept my gratitude on behalf of many of them.
But, please, stop being frustrated about us and do get back to the intention of this site:
MODELING!

(And forgive my bad grammar. I am not a native speaker! Just before you start about this.)

For all the rest: sorry, but sometimes you have to stand up! From here on I will return to my bench and focus on my next model. Maybe it might be a MB girl?..
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 11:48 AM UTC

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Business is business, and there’s a huge market in the Far East, and specially Japan, ready for all kinds of modelling with a far more open mind towards the hobby than we westerners usually have. The best point is that a whole new generation of modellers is growing thanks to all these “strange” trends, while in the West the influx of young modellers is nearly nil, specially compared with past decades.

“Girls & Panzer” has been a social phenomenon in Japan, and there are literally hundreds of teenagers (mainly girls) running blogs where they share with utmost illusion their kits, techniques and tips. Ok, that could last just as long as the series, but for sure a fraction of all these newcomers will follow in the hobby, maybe military, maybe not, but for sure “making the numbers” for the hobby to remain there as healthy as allways. Could we say the same here?

And in the case of “Girls & Panzer”, the better point for us has been the possibility to get some superb kits like the Type 89 from Fine Molds at ridicuously low prices compared to the normal releases



With the success of the Girls und Panzer: der Film and the Anzio OVA, if anything Girls und Panzer is growing. They added Italian, Japanese and Finnish armor to the series and there will be tie-in kits.

Look at how long Gundum or Space Battleship Yamato have been around. This is not going away any time soon. In fact, the copycats have already started. Arpeggio of Blue Steel for the ship fellows and Upotte!!! for gun people.

Now I want to see a Gate: and so the Self Defense Forces Fought Type 74 kit. It has the latest configuration that available kits don't offer. And maybe an F-4EJ taking out a dragon...

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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 12:00 PM UTC
I will ask the owner of Masterbox about bare-breasted Amazons on horses on next Nuremberg show. THEN someone can go nuts!
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 12:18 PM UTC
Paul very well said (oranje boven)
My mom was running food to hide outs for allied pilots that crash landed in the Netherlands. She was just 12 years old and because she was a blonde blue eyed pretty girl it never raised any suspicion. She did this every day for 3 years while there was a German listing post stationed in her/our house on the first floor. Leaving the house early in the evening picking up the food and drop it of at a distribution point. As a safety measure nobody ever knew all the exact locations where hide outs where or how many people where underground.



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I've always found it kind of strange how a subject like this (even though it's my thread) attracts a whole bunch of comments that sometimes go on for several pages... whereas a purely modelling related subject (or a member showing his work) might only attract a couple of comments by a couple of people!

Hisham



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I think all of these figures would look great in any futuristic setting. look at Nicks project "like, but not the bladerunner"
These figures would fit right in as synthetic humans I can see them run of with Rutger Hauer (leader guy with the white hair) in the blade runner movie.

Eric
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 03:45 PM UTC

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I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country.



This is probably the most offensive remark I have seen posted on Armorama. Personally, I think you should be banned for that (too bad I'm not a mod).

By the way, I took the original post (that sent you into meltdown) to be a simple observation - not an insult - about the differing social mores and norms in the US versus Europe towards nudity etc - which is a fact. Hardly warrants your embarassing over-reaction.
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 04:36 PM UTC
HELLO! Some new kits have been released. If you like them buy them. If not, don't. That's all.

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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 05:09 PM UTC

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How does my personal opinion represent the the United States of America? Hate Americans and our 2nd amendment much? I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country. Pretty fed up with ungrateful countries like yours blaming all the world's problems on us. A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?



Ken, your comments are thoroughly out of line and have no place in this community. Inasmuch as this thread really wasn't apropos of anything, you've pretty much taken the whole thing right off topic. Further, you lowered yourself to the basest form of stereotyping over which you seem to be so personally indignant.

Oh, and by the way, anyone who has spent even a few hours in a hobby shop in Tokyo (not to mention Akihabara itself...which actually has been mentioned) wouldn't even bat an eye at this. If you find this kit shocking you REALLY don't want to see what the stores are full of over there.

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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 05:14 PM UTC
My comments yesterday were childish and unwarranted. To that, I apologize to everyone here on this site. I will see myself to the door.
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 05:27 PM UTC

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Maybe my problem, but how on earth do you come from these funny figures to porn? To me it looks that in the USA showing a bare knee is already tricky! ( but maybe the standards will change after DT enters The Office?)
I guess the Masterbox staff sees a market for this kind of modelling.Why otherwise invest quite some mony in the moulds, marketing etc.
Porn? Ahum......




How does my personal opinion represent the the United States of America? Hate Americans and our 2nd amendment much? I'll bet your grand mother loved Americans...while your Grandfather hid in a closet and the German army rolled over your country. Pretty fed up with ungrateful countries like yours blaming all the world's problems on us. A simple thank you for us saving your sorry ass will suffice. Now... want to bring it back to just model building jackass?



Sir, YOUR REMARKS ARE TOTALLY UN-CALLED FOR! Remarks like THESE are PRECISELY the kind of thing that people from other countries find so offensive about Americans! THANKS FOR NOTHING!!!

When you say that "we/us saving your sorry ass", I can empathize with Europeans and our Friends and Allies in the South-Western Pacific, who fought AGAINST the Axis powers throughout WWII, many of them from BEHIND the lines, and who were actively engaged in Resistance, Espionage, Intelligence/Counter-intelligence-gathering, Sabotage, AND SAVING ALLIED Pilots & Flight Crew Members who had been shot down, AND escapees from the NAZI POW, Concentration, and Death Camps. This kind of work carried a DEATH SENTENCE, and there were many who were caught and who suffered unspeakably at the hands of the German and the Japanese "police organizations".

I'm an American by birth, and my parents were from war-torn WWII Europe who came to the United States in 1949- Mom was from Germany, and my Dad was a Ukrainian, who served in the Polish Army when the NAZIS invaded Poland. Dad was captured by HEER Troops, but handed over to the SS who very nearly killed him through mistreatment and starvation in their "camps". BOTH were extremely happy and THANKFUL when the Allied Forces liberated them, specifically the American Troops who, as it happened, actually liberated BOTH of them. My parents LOVED and RESPECTED the United States all their lives, and taught my Sister and I to do the same, which we still do...

To lump ALL Europeans and our British, French, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Belgian, Australian, New Zealander, Russian, Chinese, Czech, Polish, Italian, Pacific Islanders, and yes, even our German and Japanese Friends, not to mention the neutral Swedish and Swiss people who helped the Allied cause, as cowardly, with Grandmothers "loving" Americans, (I'll bet you meant to say "F**king), with "Grandfather hiding in the closet", is not only offensive and a distortion of the facts, but it's also INSULTING, in the extreme. It's not only insulting to the people who helped the Allies while under occupation of the enemy, it's INSULTING to the Allies that they helped, fed, clothed AND PROTECTED US and Allied Srevicemen, while these sacrificing, self-same and brave people were under the yoke of oppression by the NAZIS AND the KEMPEITAI...

We WERE talking about MODELS in this thread, people! MODELS!!! Look what this thread has degenerated into! Discussing the relative qualities (good or bad) of model kits, their assembly, detailing, painting, conversions, etc, are what ARMORAMA is SUPPOSED to be all about, and NOT sinking ourselves into the depths of prejudices of ANY kind...
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 05:39 PM UTC
First of all, I really don't think this subject deserves all this hostility.. we're talking about plastic figures!

What I really think is sad, and I say this to people who keep saying "let's get back to modelling"... whenever I try to post a couple of pics of a model I built, I can't get two people to write comments - good OR bad - about it... when I post a link to a video SBS... nobody cares to comment - again good or bad.. sometimes even if I ask a modelling related question.. I MIGHT get a couple of answers.. usually form the same people So, it seems to me that most people don't really care much about modelling subjects.. but they do like to get into silly arguments, that go nowhere

Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 05:46 PM UTC

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First of all, I really don't think this subject deserves all this hostility.. we're talking about plastic figures!

What I really think is sad, and I say this to people who keep saying "let's get back to modelling"... whenever I try to post a couple of pics of a model I built, I can't get two people to write comments - good OR bad - about it... when I post a link to a video SBS... nobody cares to comment - again good or bad.. sometimes even if I ask a modelling related question.. I MIGHT get a couple of answers.. usually form the same people So, it seems to me that most people don't really care much about modelling subjects.. but they do like to get into silly arguments, that go nowhere

Hisham



Thanks, Hisham!
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 05:53 PM UTC
Dennis... I hope you know who my comment was meant for

Hisham