Stepping away from all the bickering, Takom, we want to know when it will be released and how much?!

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Stepping away from all the bickering, Takom, we want to know when it will be released and how much?!

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A release date would be nice though I fear that there will still be left overs from the stash even if the release date is set to Christmas Day 2018

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Not interested i want a M88A2 Hercules

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As I replied to you in Varanusk's thread: If you are not interested in a subject why are you clicking a link to it?

This is a purposeful move intended solely to attempt to spoil the good news of others; in essence, you are a troll.

The energy you waste being a turd could be better spent starting threads to generate enthusiasm for your dream machine, and in writing your favorite companies to inquire as to whether they have plans or might consider producing what you desire. I saw a lot of people begging for a new bergepanther; you're the only guy I've seen asking for an M88A2. Probably because as a guy who prefers Panthers I tend to ignore such links. I certainly don't click them and post crap about how tanks are stupid and what they really need to make is a Tupolev Tu-2 in 1/32 (they should). That would be being a jerk.

This is the type of discussion I really appreciate. So only 12 A models had the spade and winch. How about D & G models?

Thank you all for the information exchange!

...so I might just use the Italeri sans winch with warts and all. Maybe have it with a healthy dose of foliage. Yet another dio idea that I "hope" to get around to!

I have seen quite a few pics of A's with spades and no winches unless I'm just not seeing them.

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I have seen quite a few pics of A's with spades and no winches unless I'm just not seeing them.

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Why would it have a spade but no winch. Surely the spade is used to keep the bergepanther from sliding back under load when extracting something with the winch.

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...so I might just use the Italeri sans winch with warts and all. Maybe have it with a healthy dose of foliage. Yet another dio idea that I "hope" to get around to!

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In the section I got my info from there was a picture of a munitionsschlepper conversion of a bergepanther that looked doable from the Italeri kit, as it was basically the box superstructure minus winch and spade.

According to my source, the first twelve were turretless Ausf D hulls provided by MAN in June 43. Henschel then undertook production and built 70 before ceasing production in November 43. In February 44 Demag converted their entire production to Bergepanthers, and after building an additional 150 Ausf A units, switched over to the Ausf G in September 44, resulting in a further 107 vehicles. Hitler had ordered Bergepanthers to be built from Panthers returned for rebuild, but only 8 were supposedly build under that order.

Those Henschel vehicles built in 43 supposedly were equipped with the 40-ton winch, spade, and 1.5-ton derrick, on the Ausf D. The Demags built from Feb to Sept 44 supposedly used the "letter box" MG Ausf A chassis. This series had the 2cm Kwk38 removed and the spade extended.

Of the first 12, 4 went to Pz.Rgt. Lauchert at Kursk in July 43. The remaining 8 were divided between Pz.Abt. 51 and 52.

This information is from 1978, so possibly more exact numbers and specifications have been discovered since. I don't have the revised edition which came out in 1999 (I believe).

Siebert are confirmed to have assembled 61 Bergepanther Ausf.D (Umbau) between July 1944 and March 1945. These were rebuilt Panther, without turret or the hatch over driver and commander. The 1943 sheet metal cover was used over turret ring. The modification for Berge duties including unditching beam stowage and 2t Behelfskran.
Reports of the deliveries from Siebert are missing for some months so it is possible that the total completed was probably closer to 100.

Until Siebert entered the Bergepanther production the designation Bergepanther Ausf.D was not used.

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According to my source, the first twelve were turretless Ausf D hulls provided by MAN in June 43. Henschel then undertook production and built 70 before ceasing production in November 43. In February 44 Demag converted their entire production to Bergepanthers, and after building an additional 150 Ausf A units, switched over to the Ausf G in September 44, resulting in a further 107 vehicles. Hitler had ordered Bergepanthers to be built from Panthers returned for rebuild, but only 8 were supposedly build under that order.

Those Henschel vehicles built in 43 supposedly were equipped with the 40-ton winch, spade, and 1.5-ton derrick, on the Ausf D. The Demags built from Feb to Sept 44 supposedly used the "letter box" MG Ausf A chassis. This series had the 2cm Kwk38 removed and the spade extended.

Of the first 12, 4 went to Pz.Rgt. Lauchert at Kursk in July 43. The remaining 8 were divided between Pz.Abt. 51 and 52.

This information is from 1978, so possibly more exact numbers and specifications have been discovered since. I don't have the revised edition which came out in 1999 (I believe).

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Hilary Louis Doyle posted the following over at Missing-Lynx:

Bergepanther Ausf.A

Interesting new information:

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Siebert are confirmed to have assembled 61 Bergepanther Ausf.D (Umbau) between July 1944 and March 1945. These were rebuilt Panther, without turret or the hatch over driver and commander. The 1943 sheet metal cover was used over turret ring. The modification for Berge duties including unditching beam stowage and 2t Behelfskran.
Reports of the deliveries from Siebert are missing for some months so it is possible that the total completed was probably closer to 100.

Until Siebert entered the Bergepanther production the designation Bergepanther Ausf.D was not used.

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Well from what I read on their site,The New Tiger Works states that the old conversion kit was donated to Takom to help make this the most accurate BergePanther possible.

Interesting new information...