The WWII 2½ ton trucks by HobbyBoss, 838330, -31, -32 & -33 has dimensional issues with the cab. This has been discussed at length here at Armorama. The problem can be "solved" by replacing the cab with, for instance, Italeris closed cab.
I have bought all of these kits and the same number of Italeri Water tank trucks, Italeri nr 201.
These chassis, and water tanks, will now be missing cabs.
One possibility is to mate the rear chassis with the front of a US halftrack (a one off seen in Tunisia).
This leaves me with three chassis without a purpose in life.
Suggestions?
/ Robin
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RobinNilsson
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 02:37 PM UTC
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 03:48 PM UTC
Maybe some ideas here...? https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/265109&page=1
...or perhaps a 'what-if' project?
...or perhaps a 'what-if' project?
jon_a_its
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 04:28 PM UTC
I have a (very) old VACform Studebaker cab.... but maybe postage either way (TO you of TO me) would be unecomomic?
I read somewhere that the Cab 'may' fit the Tamiya LEDG Chevvy, but that was probably the Italeri hard top
I read somewhere that the Cab 'may' fit the Tamiya LEDG Chevvy, but that was probably the Italeri hard top
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 04:38 PM UTC
How about a simple factory scene? The chassis stacked up along a brick wall waiting to be used, axels in wooden crates, motors also.
Or, a scrap yard/collection point for destroyed vehicles and include some old shelf queens, odds & ends parts.
Good Luck !!!!
Or, a scrap yard/collection point for destroyed vehicles and include some old shelf queens, odds & ends parts.
Good Luck !!!!
pod3105
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 07:00 PM UTC
Im with Ivanhoe, a scrapyard/barn-find kinda thing would be nice
seabee1526
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 08:03 PM UTC
Hello, I'm sorry if this is considered a hijack...was it a difficult process to put the Italeri cab on the Hobbyboss frame? What was your process to make it a proper fit?
Kevlar06
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 08:12 PM UTC
Robin, -- dumb question I know, but couldn't you splice a couple of the Hobby Boss cabs together to get the proper length and shape for at least one more truck? I have the Hobby Boss short bed kit, and it looks OK to me, so I'm going to use it as is, but I've thought to myself "if" I was going to lengthen it, another cab might be the solution.
VR, Russ
VR, Russ
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RobinNilsson
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Hello, I'm sorry if this is considered a hijack...was it a difficult process to put the Italeri cab on the Hobbyboss frame? What was your process to make it a proper fit?
No worries! The question is relevant
I haven't gotten that far yet. The web-shop sent me a notice that they have begun packing the kits. Then the shipping takes a week or so. It should be easy but I'll know more after checking the parts.
/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 09:23 PM UTC
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Robin, -- dumb question I know, but couldn't you splice a couple of the Hobby Boss cabs together to get the proper length and shape for at least one more truck? I have the Hobby Boss short bed kit, and it looks OK to me, so I'm going to use it as is, but I've thought to myself "if" I was going to lengthen it, another cab might be the solution.
VR, Russ
The total length is OK. The problem is that the fenders are too long which leaves too little for the cab to squeeze in behind the fenders so the door is not wide enough.
The over length of the fenders should also impact on the hood, the firewall gets pushed backwards and the hood must tag along.
I'll post comparison images showing the parts next to each other.
/ Robin
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A bobbed monster truck is a possibility, thanks for the tip
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 10:01 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Robin, -- dumb question I know, but couldn't you splice a couple of the Hobby Boss cabs together to get the proper length and shape for at least one more truck? I have the Hobby Boss short bed kit, and it looks OK to me, so I'm going to use it as is, but I've thought to myself "if" I was going to lengthen it, another cab might be the solution.
VR, Russ
Thw HB cab issue is described and debated at length here.
dannyo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 11:17 PM UTC
How about copying the cab in resin, then you'd have extras.
Frenchy
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Dio idea : French Army CCKW assembly line, Oran harbor, Algeria, october 1943 :
Another one in Normandy, July 1944 :
http://www.ina.fr/video/RCC09000641
H.P.
Another one in Normandy, July 1944 :
http://www.ina.fr/video/RCC09000641
H.P.
RobinNilsson
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How about copying the cab in resin, then you'd have extras.
It was easier and almost the same cost to buy those Italeri kits instead of messing around with molds and resin ....
/ Robin
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More assembly lines pics :
Normandy 1944 :
New-Caledonia 1942 :
H.P.
Normandy 1944 :
New-Caledonia 1942 :
H.P.
m4sherman
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 03:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHow about copying the cab in resin, then you'd have extras.
It was easier and almost the same cost to buy those Italeri kits instead of messing around with molds and resin ....
/ Robin
Doing the molding and casting yourself, the equipment needed costs a bit more than the price of a few models. I have everything needed to cast up a few cabs, but I would rather buy the models than cast the cabs. Cab body, fenders and interior parts would not be cheap or simple. Besides, you wouldn't have all those neat spare parts to tinker with.
joepanzer
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 05:02 AM UTC
Here's a different thought..
I currently am reworking a completed Tamiya M3 Stuart, into an abandoned vehicle dio. I even built myself a static grass applicator out of a bug zapper.
but I digress. Those "partial" vehicles would look cool, wires/cables exposed, rusting up etc.
My 2 pfenning
I currently am reworking a completed Tamiya M3 Stuart, into an abandoned vehicle dio. I even built myself a static grass applicator out of a bug zapper.
but I digress. Those "partial" vehicles would look cool, wires/cables exposed, rusting up etc.
My 2 pfenning
petbat
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 07:41 AM UTC
Do an Israeli upgrade (Join the Scratch Build campaign) with this one:
Or you could go all Mad Max-ish. Chop the Cab to size, leave off the hood, etc, bang up and load up the fenders so you don't need to worry about the shape. The general Idea:
Or go Up armoured and do your own slab cab
Armoured Pill box?
Some nice maintenance pics here
http://ww2-gmc-photo-blog.blogspot.com.au/
Or you could go all Mad Max-ish. Chop the Cab to size, leave off the hood, etc, bang up and load up the fenders so you don't need to worry about the shape. The general Idea:
Or go Up armoured and do your own slab cab
Armoured Pill box?
Some nice maintenance pics here
http://ww2-gmc-photo-blog.blogspot.com.au/
Kevlar06
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 08:39 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextRobin, -- dumb question I know, but couldn't you splice a couple of the Hobby Boss cabs together to get the proper length and shape for at least one more truck? I have the Hobby Boss short bed kit, and it looks OK to me, so I'm going to use it as is, but I've thought to myself "if" I was going to lengthen it, another cab might be the solution.
VR, Russ
Thw HB cab issue is described and debated at length here.
I got that, but I wonder if you could splice two HB cabs together to get the proper width-- someone suggested that in the string above, but has anyone tried it? If it could be done, it would give Robin at least one more cab to work with and that would be one less "extra frame" to worry about.
VR, Russ
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An imaginary armoured truck could be an idea ....
Thanks Peter
/ Robin
Thanks Peter
/ Robin
jon_a_its
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 02:14 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I got that, but I wonder if you could splice two HB cabs together to get the proper width-- someone suggested that in the string above, but has anyone tried it? If it could be done, it would give Robin at least one more cab to work with and that would be one less "extra frame" to worry about.
VR, Russ
You would have to shorten the hood, sides, fenders etc, & then lengthen the cab roof, doors & cab floorpan.
'Could' be done, but lipstick on a pig, a lot of work for little end result.
Easier options are to use an aftermarket resin or Italeri cab.
The Italeri water tanker can still be picked up at shows or ebay for UKP£10/USD$15, easier.
The HB hard top looks 'wrong' (for a given value of 'wrong')
My measuements here, & discussions mentioned in the link above.
But your milage may vary. As some have pointed out it looks like a Duce, and I have seen the HB cab done post-war with the doors painted a different colour.
Others will want to change the cab.
I like the scrapyard/repair yard ideas though, & if nothing else, you will have a good start to your spares box.
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 02:42 PM UTC
Merceron Pompiers (fire brigade)
Build a trailer?
Build a trailer?
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 05:47 PM UTC
Well if you saw "Mad Max Fury Road" then there are no limits to what could be done. 
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 06:06 PM UTC
Excellent pictures Frenchy !!! I never knew that they shipped the trucks un-assembled and did some 1 to 1 modeling at the port.
Interesting bit of trivia ! Thanks for sharing !
Tom
at the port.Interesting bit of trivia ! Thanks for sharing !
Tom
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