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No love for the M114 APC!!
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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2018 - 06:06 AM UTC

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As usual, the work been been done for a while. This trick was finding a company interested in it.



It's a simple shape.
I could draw that in CAD. IF a had a few scaled dwg's to start with.

The AA ones is about $120.
Shapeways prob. be similar.



I can't send you the M114 measurements, because they now belong to someone else. But if you're serious, there does seem to be plenty of interest in the M59. If you want to work on that, I'll send you what you need to make it happen. A sample:



Line drawings are readily available as well.




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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2018 - 06:14 AM UTC

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Bryan,

Yes, you right!
Retrokit offer a resin kit of the M75; BUT, it's rudimentary. No hatches to open,and as mentioned by you it will need AFV Club's M41/M42 running gear and their M41 track!

On the other hand; I attend model shows at Belgium, at least once a year at Mol.

And I saw the Retrokit M75 build there,!

Talking to the Belgian modelers, I was told, to build the kit won't be a joy! A lot of improvements are necessary.

Showing the kit with all hatches open, requires to make them by yourself, not to mention the approach to build the interior of Evergreen profiles.
Yes, it can be done!
Some moons ago I had build the AFV Club AIFV PC (poste commandement) interior, as the YPR 765 of AFV Club as a Netherlands company commander's vehicle, with the M26 cupola,and interior.

It was fun to build, BUT - it took months to finish both kits.

BTW - the M26 cupola is the same used with the CDN Lynx and the M114A1.

Back to the subject! I would like to see the M75 in plastic with interior.

Greetings

Hauke



Hauke,

Brilliant!

Are you perchance planning on visiting the Belgium IPMS model show this year (Plastic & Steel) at Affligem? I ask as I will be there exhibiting in the guise of Stonehenge Modellers and I hope to have my M75 (with no interior whatsoever) completed?

Brian

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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2018 - 06:28 AM UTC

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I contacted AA, asking if they could mold the cupola in a clear resin, so the vision blocks would also be clear, but was told it was not feasible. Sigh...



I wonder why? I used to offer these decades ago.
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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2018 - 06:41 AM UTC

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As usual, the work been been done for a while. This trick was finding a company interested in it.



It's a simple shape.
I could draw that in CAD. IF a had a few scaled dwg's to start with.

The AA ones is about $120.
Shapeways prob. be similar.



I can't send you the M114 measurements, because they now belong to someone else. But if you're serious, there does seem to be plenty of interest in the M59. If you want to work on that, I'll send you what you need to make it happen. A sample:






If someone goes through the trouble of developing an M59, it makes my life much easier in building an LVTP6! M59 and LVTP6 share running gear and lower hull, FMC changed the upper hull to make it fully amphibious. Adding those “paddles” to the track blocks wouldn’t even be too bad after experience of assembling AFV Club’s Workable LVT track.


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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 12:03 AM UTC

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Talking about small obsolete APCs, I'm drawing a blank, but that small West German APC that was fielded before the Marder IFV entered service, would be a nice addition to any Cold War collection as well... IMHO!!



The small german APC/IFV (it was armed with a 20mm Hispano-Suzia Canon in the base version) was this one:

Schützenpanzer SPz 11-2 Kurz

Despite the name (that hints at an IFV) it is more a light scout vehicle carrying some dismounts. It's replacement was mainly the 8-wheeled Luchs

The "real" IFV of the time was this:

Schützenpanzer Lang HS.30

The main thing THAT beast was good for was a nice political scandal...



The one I was thinking about was the Schützenpanzer "LANG," HS-30. When Revell of Germany came out with their Jadgpanzer Kanone, I thought that this would would have been a follow kit, using the Jadgpanzer kanone hull.

I too would love to see the M59 and the M75 APCs as well.



The KaJaPa/RaJaPa (they share a hull) and the HS-30 have nothing in common. There WAS a prototype HS-30 hull/90mm canon but the KaJaPa is based on the development that ended with the Marder IFV. Actually the original plan was to use the "new IFV" chassis for it but when Marder took far more time than planned the tank hunter was spun off in a separate project.
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Posted: Monday, July 30, 2018 - 04:21 PM UTC

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I can't send you the M114 measurements, because they now belong to someone else. But if you're serious, there does seem to be plenty of interest in the M59. If you want to work on that, I'll send you what you need to make it happen. A sample:




Robert,


Thanks for the offer.
I've actually already started the M114.



I'll see how that goes and if I can't get enough info to finish it, maybe I'll take you up on the M59.

Interesting coincidence - We both joined Armorama on the same day.
You posted few more times tho...
LoL
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Posted: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 - 04:12 AM UTC

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I contacted AA, asking if they could mold the cupola in a clear resin, so the vision blocks would also be clear, but was told it was not feasible. Sigh...



I wonder why? I used to offer these decades ago.



Be careful what you post on the interweb. Still there 23 years later.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 - 10:33 AM UTC
TC Hatch...




Anyone thinking they would be interested in 3D Print of the M114?

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Posted: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 - 04:41 PM UTC
Hey Ken, I was there for Feb to May 1980 and assigned to E co, 3rd Bn,1st Training Bde (E-3-1). I was trained as a 19E while one other platoon was trained as 19F. We were trained on M60A3TTS... Shipped out to Germany and assigned to 8th Infantry Division where we had tired M60A1 RISE Passive tanks.
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