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Any worse plastic figures than MiniArt?
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Posted: Monday, July 20, 2020 - 09:02 AM UTC
Shhhhh lol
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There are Miniart sets and then there are...Miniart sets. Every one,I have found,is a different quality. Some are crappy and some are very nice! I like the soft plastic they use because it makes it way easier to carve and modify.
Dragon is the same way. Some sets are almost resin quality and some are VERY soft on detail,like the Canadian Commonwealth Infantry set,unfortunately. On the other side of the Dragon scale are the outstanding GENII sets! VERY VERY nice.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 - 02:26 AM UTC
The only ones I seen are from earlier releases. I have some old Tamiya figures that barely look human. MiniArts newest release look very good.

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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 - 06:11 AM UTC
I love most Miniart figure sets. Yes, their first few sets were pretty bad, but the next hundred sets or so are very good. Fit problems are frequent but worth fixing, because the poses and subjects are so good.

I like Masterbox a lot and ICM also has some terrific figures.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 03:13 AM UTC
I must be lucky ...the Miniart figure sets I've built have been no better or worse than any other plastic figures I've done. Now if you want some crappy figures (although not plastic).............

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/4254

Plus Models holds the crown for them.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 03:51 AM UTC
Going a bit off-topic, but Verlinden must have had a few differing sculptors with varying degrees of talent. Some of their figures were totally terrible and didn't even fit well!
Back to MiniArt: these Soviet Naval Troops are a fairly early release and don't look so bad at all. Granted, they are pro built and painted so I guess it all depends on the proficiency of the modeler...
https://miniart-models.com/gallery-list/35043-soviet-naval-troops/#lg=1&slide=0
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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 04:29 AM UTC

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But we are talking about mid 20 century, European folks.


Like these guys. (What scale is the guy in second row, center?)
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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 05:29 AM UTC
Those soldiers could be a mix of 1/32 and 1/35.
The trick is to supply them with a single scale of equipment, the 1/35 guy and the 1/32 giant both gets the 1/35 scale rifle. Uniforms come in different sizes but pockets, buttons, belts et.c are only in one size.
Helmets have different internals/lining to fit different sized heads but I think the outside shell is the same.
Shoes are different sizes but the shoestrings are the same. Height comes from different lengths of legs so the torsos shouls all be 1/35 but some sets of legs and arms can come from 1/32 figures.

I don't see a Shaquille O'Neal sized soldier in there though
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Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 03:58 PM UTC
The guy in the second row used to be 6'2 but he had a bad landing
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2020 - 05:15 AM UTC

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There are Miniart sets and then there are...Miniart sets. Every one,I have found,is a different quality. Some are crappy and some are very nice! I like the soft plastic they use because it makes it way easier to carve and modify.
Dragon is the same way. Some sets are almost resin quality and some are VERY soft on detail,like the Canadian Commonwealth Infantry set,unfortunately. On the other side of the Dragon scale are the outstanding GENII sets! VERY VERY nice.
J



I must agree with Jerry. Some Miniart figure sets are absolutely terrible with very poor fit or rough or partially present details. Their figures definitely need a lot of work to make them look like anything. The problem is that Miniart makes really interesting figure subjects in some quite nice poses, so they are very tempting.

While Master Box quality is quite nice, it is not perfect and their figures do suffer from soft details.

Dragon seems to be the most consistent in quality and detail, though that is variable too. I found that most Dragon figure sets with product codes in the 61xx series had the best definition and detail.
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2020 - 06:39 AM UTC
I only have two Miniart sets and fortunately both are pretty good. They just need a little filler at the shoulders and butt area but the faces are decent. I am lucky with my Master Box sets as well but agree the details can be a bit soft.

But by far the Dragon figures are the best and the Gen 2 sets had the best equipment IMO. Tamiya's most recent figures are much better than the older stuff but I think they still need to work on the hands.



They are still really clunky in my eyes and Dragon does that better. But for my money, the worst figures I ever have seen came in the 1/30 Bandai Hummel kit. Those things looked like goblins in German uniforms. Whoever made that tooling was in the grips of a raging fever dream while they were operating the cutter.
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2020 - 11:26 AM UTC

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I only have two Miniart sets and fortunately both are pretty good. They just need a little filler at the shoulders and butt area but the faces are decent. I am lucky with my Master Box sets as well but agree the details can be a bit soft.

But by far the Dragon figures are the best and the Gen 2 sets had the best equipment IMO. Tamiya's most recent figures are much better than the older stuff but I think they still need to work on the hands.



They are still really clunky in my eyes and Dragon does that better. But for my money, the worst figures I ever have seen came in the 1/30 Bandai Hummel kit. Those things looked like goblins in German uniforms. Whoever made that tooling was in the grips of a raging fever dream while they were operating the cutter.



Which figures are in this photo? They look very nice!
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2020 - 02:16 PM UTC

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They are still really clunky in my eyes and Dragon does that better. But for my money, the worst figures I ever have seen came in the 1/30 Bandai Hummel kit. Those things looked like goblins in German uniforms. Whoever made that tooling was in the grips of a raging fever dream while they were operating the cutter.



Which figures are in this photo? They look very nice!



For the new Tamiya Pz IV Ausf F.
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2020 - 11:08 PM UTC

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Those soldiers could be a mix of 1/32 and 1/35.
The trick is to supply them with a single scale of equipment, the 1/35 guy and the 1/32 giant both gets the 1/35 scale rifle. Uniforms come in different sizes but pockets, buttons, belts et.c are only in one size.
Helmets have different internals/lining to fit different sized heads but I think the outside shell is the same.
Shoes are different sizes but the shoestrings are the same. Height comes from different lengths of legs so the torsos shouls all be 1/35 but some sets of legs and arms can come from 1/32 figures.

I don't see a Shaquille O'Neal sized soldier in there though


Here is one ,or the other one is really small

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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 09:58 PM UTC

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I only have two Miniart sets and fortunately both are pretty good. They just need a little filler at the shoulders and butt area but the faces are decent. I am lucky with my Master Box sets as well but agree the details can be a bit soft.

But by far the Dragon figures are the best and the Gen 2 sets had the best equipment IMO. Tamiya's most recent figures are much better than the older stuff but I think they still need to work on the hands.



They are still really clunky in my eyes and Dragon does that better. But for my money, the worst figures I ever have seen came in the 1/30 Bandai Hummel kit. Those things looked like goblins in German uniforms. Whoever made that tooling was in the grips of a raging fever dream while they were operating the cutter.



Which figures are in this photo? They look very nice!



They do look very nice at a first glance, agreed. But have a closer look at the hands, fingers specifically.

The faces look pretty nice, though. And of course you would need to drill out the sleeves. Anyway, I can just second that Tamiya has definitely improved. But there's still some room for further improvement IMHO.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 11:57 PM UTC
...Italeri figures?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 04:06 AM UTC

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...Italeri figures?



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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 05:40 AM UTC

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...Italeri figures?



Blobs of horror, especially their early ones.
Allied drivers set arrrgh.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 06:00 AM UTC

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...Italeri figures?



Blobs of horror, especially their early ones.
Allied drivers set arrrgh.



I think those guys were all originally molded by Peerless
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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 06:09 AM UTC
Wasn't it Oddball in the film Kelly's Heroes who said "Always with the negative waves" or similar?

Can we not just be happy that as modellers we live in hallowed times where we are literally spoilt for choice?

Sure, some Miniart figures are worse than perhaps their latest efforts (and the size discrepancy can be annoying) but they seem to be constantly improving and their willingness to provide figures and accessories which I suspect we'd never see otherwise is laudable.

Italeri figures were never brilliant, but neither were the earlier Tamiya ones; both can be used as a basis depending on what you're after depicting. Hornet Heads (and hands come to that) can relatively easily make a real difference and you can still end up with something worthwhile adding to a model.

Step back and just see where we are now, compared say, to the 70s and 80s; I don't feel we have that much to complain about!

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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 08:02 AM UTC

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Wasn't it Oddball in the film Kelly's Heroes who said "Always with the negative waves" or similar?

Can we not just be happy that as modellers we live in hallowed times where we are literally spoilt for choice?

Sure, some Miniart figures are worse than perhaps their latest efforts (and the size discrepancy can be annoying) but they seem to be constantly improving and their willingness to provide figures and accessories which I suspect we'd never see otherwise is laudable.

Italeri figures were never brilliant, but neither were the earlier Tamiya ones; both can be used as a basis depending on what you're after depicting. Hornet Heads (and hands come to that) can relatively easily make a real difference and you can still end up with something worthwhile adding to a model.

Step back and just see where we are now, compared say, to the 70s and 80s; I don't feel we have that much to complain about!

Brian



Agreed! I have plenty of Miniart figure sets in my stash, but have only built a few of them so far. And I’ve been quite satisfied with the results. One or two per set are often just what I need for a project. And getting that many in resin is usually outside of my hobby budget.
Yes, we sure far better off in the hobby than four decades ago. Of course there are still gaps to be filled. Not in German figures of course...
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