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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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Golikell
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Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 09:27 PM UTC
Any body what vehicle this is???



Thanks,
greatbrit
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Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 09:38 PM UTC
its a milfraset(might be spelt wrong) its the hebrew word for monster(according to my osprey book)

its a modification of a centurion chassis, designed for fighting militants in built up areas

cheers

joe
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Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:23 PM UTC
Woaw ! Congrets Joe !!!!!!!!!!!!
Golikell
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Posted: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:55 PM UTC
Thanks for the quick response!!!!
Leeran
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Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 06:40 AM UTC
not milfraset... Mifletzet

It's called "Nagmashon". You're right, it's a modification of a centurion chassis, an improvment of a Nagmashot (Nagmash = APC, Shot = Centurion's israeli nickname)
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Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 09:11 AM UTC
leeran,

thanks for the correction, like i said i didnt know the exact spelling.

cheers

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 04:58 PM UTC
Damn, yous guys ( that's Joisey for you guys) are good, I'm still looking at the photo, and all I can make out are headlights and dust.........
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Posted: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 06:00 PM UTC
Yep, and there's even a resin update kit from Aef-designs...

http://www.aefdesigns.com/Israile_Images/Israeli_Armor.htm

Kris
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 03:35 AM UTC
I love this vehicle, lol

dave, this is how it looks like:




looks like a monster alright!
shiryon
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 03:45 AM UTC
There are plenty of theses types out there including the doghouses on IDF M113's. they were all built for the LIC (Low intensity conflict ) Judea sumaria and Gaza. AEF actualy makes most of them. What I'd really like is a D9/10 with full doghouse armour . now there's a monster

shiryon
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 03:45 AM UTC
Is this the only one of these beasties? Looks like a heavy contender in the Ugliest Tank contest
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:17 AM UTC

I heard a friend of mine refer to the "dog house" equipped Nagmachons as "Nagmachon VIP".

if that helps in any way...
tom
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 10:08 AM UTC
Question if I can?

Do any of those PE sets from
http://www.aefdesigns.com/Israile_Images/Israeli_Armor.htm

Can they only be used with what they say to use or can I get the Tamiya version and use that instead.

Happy Modeling
engineer
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 11:07 AM UTC
It would be great to see a kit of the armoured D9. They were also used by the US Army in Iraq. I know the 101st had 2 of them. I got the chance to operate one fighting fire in a sulfur plant south of Mosul last July.
Leeran
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Posted: Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:21 PM UTC
tom I guess you can do the same with the tamiya kits with a little scratchbuilding maybe, unless the molds are similar

although I saw them saying "for tamiya kit ONLY" and I guess that means that you can't for that specific kit, they know what they are saying probably...

I don't think this would be a good candidate for the ugliest tank thing! I think it shows power and is pretty in a way...
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004 - 02:22 PM UTC
Tom, if you are referring to the "doghouse" conversion for the M113, then I can say a little about it. The conversion kit was designed to fit the Academy kit, but it may fit the Tamiya offering with a little work. The top plate on the two kits vary slightly, so there may (and I stress may) be a fit problem with the how the resin parts mate up.

The majority of AEF conversions are designed particularly with a specific kit in mind, but that doesn't alway equate to an "only" fit. For example, my experiences with the M60-based conversions is that they can be "adjusted" to fit the Esci kits, although they were designed for Academy's offerings.

Just trying to help what little I can. If in doubt, you can contact Tony at AEF, and he will probably answer any questions you may have,

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 08:01 PM UTC
It's really time for a D9 kit....
hope Academy comes out with it
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Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 10:17 PM UTC
http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/Armor_Main.htm

addy for the idf armor museum, great pics of idf armor, and lots of shermie models and other modifications idf made...

reb
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