o.k. what ever you say jet your obviously right !
so i'm un subscribing from this thread now i didnt join armorama and pay to support it to argue
and please dont call me soft!

I look at it this way: As long as a basic shade of paint is there, to me it's not going to matter if the paint color is bang on, because as soon as a wash hits the paint, it's going to darken it somewhat anyways, then probably get even darker or lighter with the pastels and pigments. So it doesn't concern me wether or not the paint is spot on, when I'm done with it, everything's gonna look different. Paint tones varied in the factory, no batch run is ever the same, so this is not really a big deal. Plus I think crews probably did their own slapping of paint in the field, so it probably wouldn't be uncommon to see a dark yellow over grey or oxide primer. We would never know what paint was put on at any given time or in any given place. None of us will never know that, unless we traveled back in time. That's the wonderful thing about modelling this type of medium - no one knows exactly what colors were what, we only have black and white photographs to go from along with some grainy color shots. So unless we were there at that time period with digi cameras, I think we have a fair amount of leeway to work with. Colours schmolers! Just model away and have a blast doing it! Who cares if the shade is "incorrect", do they know it's incorrect for a fact? Probably not.

Here are some chips showing the actual RAL colors. The main hue is on end on the right.

Humbrol 84 is sited as a good match from the book these came from. Wehrmacht Heer Camouflage Colors by Thomas Chory

this page may be of interest to those seeking accurate paint colors.
http://byrden.com/panzers/Colours/index.html
I use the suggested Xtracolor 809

FWIW - I just found Tamiya's rattle can Dark Yellow, TS3 - which looks a lot like what one expects to see as Panzer Yellow.

Hello; I am doing a German M88 Flack 36 and a German 8ton semi-track for my battle of the budgle. And have been confused for awhile on what to use for paint and here's what convienced me to use one of the colors would be correct for RAL 7028.

Here's the link
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Happy Modeling