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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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PanzerKarl
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 10:10 AM UTC
This is a Tamiya Tiger II with etched grills and Tamiya separate Track links.Its just about done apart from some bits and bobs like tools, figure and front MG gun.all comments welcome and Thanks for looking.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 10:35 AM UTC
Hi Karl:

Your Tiger looks great. I really like the paint job and the weathering. If you have answered these questions before, I apologize, but could you (1) tell me what the base green color is? and (2) how you painted the camo. pattern?

Keith
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 11:34 AM UTC
Hey Karl:

Great job, I really like the tracks & wheels, the camo is cool looking and came out great. Any plans for this?

Regards
Bruce
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 05:45 PM UTC

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(1) tell me what the base green color is? and (2) how you painted the camo. pattern?

It took me a few goes to get the green basecoat,but its a mix of Tamiya flat green,dark green and a hint of light blue.I applyed maskin tape cut to shape for the camo and the rings are painted free hand.cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 05:50 PM UTC
looks great! i lvoe the camo, the tracks, everything on it basicly lol

Frank
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 07:11 PM UTC
Excellent weathering. The tracks look superb.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 11:45 PM UTC
I like the rusty exhaust pipes
Nope, it is a nice tank, I love it.

Grtz Hilbert
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:28 AM UTC
That is quite a unique camo job. Does that exist for real?
Frag
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:32 AM UTC
Karl,

Great Tiger II. I really like the paint job and the tracks!
thebear
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 05:54 AM UTC
Hi Karl ..nice job on your camo scheme ..Your weathering looks very well done..congrats!..Alan ..Yes this camo did exsist on at least one KT ..It was a very late model with reinforced front fenders and 18 toothed tracks..along with many other late features...If you want I do have a picture of it on my hard drive I could post it here if you'd like to see it ...

Rick
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 05:59 AM UTC
I can't speak for anyone else Bear but I would like to see the picture...
Thanks in advance.
Shaun
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 06:04 AM UTC
Karl, I like the model, the tracks are good too but as this beast moved a lot on roads I'd say the road side faces should be a little brighter - just my opinion mind.


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That is quite a unique camo job. Does that exist for real?



Now the rustling you can hear is me donning my flame proof overalls just in case someone takes offence.
I'd say - no it isn't. I'm an old modeller (I'm 47) and these sort of 'ambush' schemes only started appearing in the 1990's. My old collection of books from the seventies don't mention 'em.
Now if that means that they were only used on the Eastern front - and thus only came to light after the old Soviet records became available - I'm wrong.

I suppose it's possible that some SS unit had a fancy scheme on one or two tanks, but I'd like to see some photographic proof - not line drawings in books by the way. I've never done one myself - but I'd like to know one way or another.

This isn't meant as a knock on Karl - he's done a good scheme, but I'd like to know his references.
esc71
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 06:22 AM UTC
I seem to remember this scheme shown on one of the color plates in the King Tiger Osprey book. Can someone verify that? I'm not at home to look. Kit looks great by the way.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 06:30 AM UTC
There seems some debate on the Tiger II camo scheme,well i dont have a photo and the pictures i have come across do seem to have a copyright or some kind of block on them so i carnt post one up,but i shall post a link to the best picture i can find.From the link its the very last picture front view of the KT. http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger2.htm.
thebear
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 06:31 AM UTC
Okay I put the picture in my gallery so if it doesn't show up here just take a look there ...here goes nothing..
https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/500/15910_KASS_1.JPG

Rick
p.s sorry haven't figured how to do it yet ..just take a look for yourselves ..
keenan
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 06:41 AM UTC


Bear's pic, hopefully...
thebear
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 06:50 AM UTC
Thanks Shawn...
Kelley
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 07:15 AM UTC
Just a little more info on this big cat. As Karl and Rick have already said, and shown with the pics, this was an actual scheme. There has been quit a bit of discussion about this particular Tiger II, especially on the Axis DG on Missing-Lynx. It has been unofficially dubbed the "Octopus camo" Tiger II. Apparently it was a one of a kind scheme. It was picked up from the Henschel factory by the crew in the final days of the war in Europe, and saw some action near Kassel Germany. Aside from the two pictures posted & linked to above there are several others of it floating around, including one color shot that unfortunately I haven't seen, but that several reputable people have described. I have read that it is being held by a publisher (or writer) for inclusion in a future book.

Cheers,
Mike

Edit: I forgot, Nice job Karl!
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 07:15 AM UTC
Great job Tigeriv!

I love the shading and the job you did on the road wheels.
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