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Group Build: Hummer
ponysoldier
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:20 AM UTC
Ok thanks epi im on on this one. One more question is this oob no am parts??
How about slight enhancements that are hand built bedrolls etc??

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prcrash
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:34 AM UTC
Since everyone here is building Italeri Humvee's, could someone tell me where I could find a set of instructions for the desert patrol Humvee? My mother in law threw mine away, and I really want to finish building this kit the right way...
kf8xo
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:07 PM UTC
If you e-mail me your address, I can mail them to you. As long as you don't need the camo scheme instructions, kinda airbrushed over that part. Everything else is legible though.

[email protected]
YodaMan
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:29 PM UTC
If you need it, I've got the camo scheme instructions

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GunTruck
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:22 AM UTC
Forgive me it this has been answered in another post - are we building bare, naked, HMMWV's?

Strictly OOB without adding radios and crew gear?

Gunnie
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:43 AM UTC
We're building any Italeri HMMWV, completely OOB.
Scratchbuilt items can be added.
No aftermarket stuff (tires, resin, PE, etc.)
I'm not sure about stowage items... I think they're alright. (i.e. Tamiya jerrycans)

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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:52 AM UTC

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We're building any Italeri HMMWV, completely OOB.
Scratchbuilt items can be added.
No aftermarket stuff (tires, resin, PE, etc.)
I'm not sure about stowage items... I think they're alright. (i.e. Tamiya jerrycans)

YodaMan



Thanks YM - hmmm, I guess that means I can use the HMMWV tires I cast up myself almost a dozen years ago by the rule allowing scratchbuilt items to be added...

Gunnie
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Posted: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 12:52 PM UTC
I haven't got an Italiari Hummer but I have an Academy Hummer TOW is that allowed? :-)
prcrash
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:14 AM UTC
my email is [email protected]

thanks in advance for the instructions!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 11:41 AM UTC

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I haven't got an Italiari Hummer but I have an Academy Hummer TOW is that allowed? :-)

That's cheating, the Academy kit is way better than the Italeri kit.
ponysoldier
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2002 - 12:50 PM UTC
Ok now that I got caught up Im well underway picked the wrong paint Gloss
and yup this an itlaeri kit cuttting and fill tail gate assembly.



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merkava8
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2002 - 03:41 PM UTC
Oh well, till the next group build then.
kf8xo
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Posted: Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 06:27 AM UTC
Has anyone started posting in process photos yet? Mines almost done so I don't wanna go first.
Sabot
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Posted: Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 06:52 AM UTC

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We're building any Italeri HMMWV, completely OOB.
Scratchbuilt items can be added.


Must have missed this post earlier, but isn't adding scratchbuilt items contradicting OOB construction? Again, I'm unsure of "official" rules, but I would assume that OOB means only the stuff that comes in the box, and the only things that are to be added are items like stretched sprue antenna, thread for rigging/cables if shown in instructions and the like. I also think using cellophane tape for searchlight lenses like Tamiya shows to do on the M60A1/M48A5 kits counts as OOB too.
GunTruck
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Posted: Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 07:52 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

We're building any Italeri HMMWV, completely OOB.
Scratchbuilt items can be added.


Must have missed this post earlier, but isn't adding scratchbuilt items contradicting OOB construction? Again, I'm unsure of "official" rules, but I would assume that OOB means only the stuff that comes in the box, and the only things that are to be added are items like stretched sprue antenna, thread for rigging/cables if shown in instructions and the like. I also think using cellophane tape for searchlight lenses like Tamiya shows to do on the M60A1/M48A5 kits counts as OOB too.



That's what's confusing me too - in all the Group Builds. Aluminum Gun Barrels in one, scratchbuilt items in the other. Maybe I'm missed something along the way...

Gunnie
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Posted: Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 12:02 PM UTC
I re-read every post. It appears that only Yoda & Ponysoldier mention/question adding scratchbuild items (like camo nets, bedrolls, 5 gal cans). I don't think we had a meeting of minds. Seems like something we call "mission creep", someone adds an extra idea, and then no one rebuffs it. The old "silence is consent" mentality.

IMHO, OOB is OOB. Add something as simple as a better .50 cal scrounged from another kit, and you're no longer building OOB. Here's the excerp from the IPMS website:

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III. Special Categories

1. OUT-OF-THE-BOX entries will be governed by the following rules:

A. KITS. Any commercially available kit may be used. The number of categories incorporating Out-of-the-Box awards will be determined by the Host Chapter and the National Contest Committee.

B. FINISH. All finishing techniques are allowed. Decals other than those included with the kit may be used. Insignia, markings, and instrument panels may be hand-painted instead of decaled. Weathering is permitted.

C. CONSTRUCTION. The modeler may fill seams and gaps; sand off rivets; drill out gun ports, exhaust pipes, or other appropriate openings; thin to scale such parts as trailing edges, flaps, and doors; add rigging and antennas; and add simple tape or decal seat belts in the cockpit of an aircraft or the interior of a vehicle (NO commercial or modeler-manufactured hardware - e.g., buckles, etc.).

D. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO: vacuform, manufacture, or replace any part, or substitute parts from another kit; cut or separate canopies, surfaces, hatches, doors, etc. (no major surgery); combine a standard kit with a conversion kit; add anything other than specified on the instruction sheet except as shown in Section C above.

E. INSTRUCTION SHEETS. Modelers must attach the kit instruction sheet to the entry form. Models entered without an attached kit instruction sheet will not be considered for an Out-of-the-Box award.

GunTruck
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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2002 - 03:18 AM UTC
Okay - clear as mud now...

I'll just decide to participate strictly OOB per IPMS/USA rules in the Group Builds...

Gunnie
Epi
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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2002 - 12:33 PM UTC
I agree! Like Rob said, I canreplace the tires later after the build. That would be the only down fall for the kit, but can easiely be replaced afterwards.
kf8xo
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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2002 - 01:41 PM UTC
That knocks me out......I'll try
next time around.
CaptainJack
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 05:02 AM UTC
I think I'll give it a miss as well, good luck to the others, I'm just too detail conscious to build something I like OOB. I do that for Japanese aircraft, as that was a decision I made at the outset. But I can't see building the vehicles and listening to my superdetail parts moaning in frustration in the background.

Jack bummer on the Hummer
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 02:16 PM UTC
Ok oob it is thanks sabot


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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 02:38 PM UTC
Well shoot!!! I'm going to bow out of this one also. After looking at the kit, I don't think I would be satisfied building it out of the box. There isn't enough detail. Plus, there are several inaccuracies to be fixed (the bulging rear tail lights for starters). I thought the detail would be on par with the Academy kits and it isn't in my opinion. I will build it though and post pictures. Good luck everyone, I will anxiously await your photo's!
ponysoldier
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Posted: Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:09 PM UTC
Ok well im underway the chassis is complete , Im filling an ill fitting tailgate assembly
things are pretty much as I thought it would be a snafu but sometimes thats half the
fun of this . I think oob creates the greatest challenge to a modeler, because the
the very best thing you can put into your kit is time,and this brings out and delvelopes
your skills


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ponysoldier
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Posted: Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:13 PM UTC
Dont ask me what happened with the last post. How many people do we have
building in this group Now??


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