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SdKfz 232, German heavy recce vehicle
Viking
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Wien, Austria
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 01:10 AM UTC
Hi friends!
This time it´s up to me, to post something at least, after having done a bit of criticism to other modellers work #:-)
It is the German 8-wheeled reconnaissance vehicle, SdKfz 232 from Tamiya. This is an old, but very good kit and didn´t really profit a lot from the (poor) PE-parts set of "the show modelling" company. Only the muffler protection grids are excellent as you might notice...
Here are some in-progress pics as well as some of the "finished" project (as I intend to have it added to an Africa- diorama, it is not really finished, concerning for instance the weathering to blend it into the surroundings). A lot of things were detailed by adding some self made parts instead of and surplus to the PE-set. The machine gun and the machine cannon are also self made.
More of this stuff can be seen at my homepage.





Now it´s up to your for your critics.
herberta
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 01:35 AM UTC
WOW!

That looks great.
How did you make the barrels?

And are you planning an article for us?
The finish and figure look very nice. I don't see anything to critique, just lots to learn from!

Cheers
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 03:32 AM UTC
Are the padlocks on the stowage bins PE or are they some other medium? Your work looks great so far. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 03:45 AM UTC
Viking, Very Nice I like this kit very well. I like the tempered dustyness. The super-detailing is very good.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 04:00 AM UTC
One minor point. I see you have added some steering lock to the front pair of axles, but have you done the same with the rear ones? On the German eight wheel A/C's, ALL wheels steered.
Viking
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 05:17 AM UTC
@ ukgeoff:
is this the answer to your remark:

the steering lock at the SdKfz 232 was different as with the first and last, respectively with the second and third axle.
ukgeoff
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 06:16 AM UTC
Ok Viking, I just wondered as it was dificult to judge the rear lock in the first unfinished photo.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 10:20 AM UTC
Hi Viking.
Beautiful job on the old Tamiya kit. I have not yet gotten up the courage to work on an older kit from them.
I was wondering what technique you used to give the kit that faded, dusty look.
Thanks,
Andrew
Viking
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 07:21 PM UTC
Hi Oberst!
The way to this faded dusty look isn´t easy to explain, as it developed by uncounted steps of paint work.
The detailed explanation can be found at:
http://www.panzermodellbau.com/en_tip_sdkfz232.html
Important is, not to finish the paintwork by using semi gloss varnish to simulate "steel", as it is usually done with european theater vehicles. Only several spots were treated this way: hatches, steps for the crew etc.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 11:41 PM UTC
Great job Viking. I know that PE was a pain. Really a Great job. So what besides Eduard set did you use tell tell?
Viking
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 12:07 AM UTC

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So what besides Eduard set did you use tell tell?

I´m afraid: no other PE set! most of the additional things are homemade:
# distance estimators on the fenders
# antenna wiring
# lift hooks on top of the turret
# horns
# light protection rods on the hull sides
# air intake grill at the engine compartment
# hatch lock
# side stowage bin locks (partly from the PE-set, partly self-made, as I unfortunately lost some...)
# licence plate mounts
# jerry can fixing straps
# details of the tools at the front fenders
# armament
# tire valves with the armour protection
# front light bulbs
# tool holder straps improvements
the rest is PE but not from "Eduard", but from "The Show Modelling" (see picture). Unfortunately none of the vision covers could be used, as they are not fitting to the original.
sourkraut
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:28 AM UTC
in case anybody is interested ,these vehicles are be produced to day for collectors and reenactors.the have 8 wheel drives and 4 wheel steering and 2 steering positions just like the originals,they sell for 40,000.
heres the link
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/6063/
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Posted: Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:05 PM UTC
40,000 and you don't even have to glue anything? What's the fun in that!!

Coop
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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:55 PM UTC

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in case anybody is interested ,these vehicles are be produced to day for collectors and reenactors.the have 8 wheel drives and 4 wheel steering and 2 steering positions just like the originals,they sell for 40,000.
heres the link
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/6063/



Thanks for the look at todays prices and what I saw from a mechanic standpoint looked pretty good for $40,000. But I sure would hate to have to buy 8 tires at one time.
sgtreef
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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:57 PM UTC

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So what besides Eduard set did you use tell tell?

I´m afraid: no other PE set! most of the additional things are homemade:
# distance estimators on the fenders
# antenna wiring
# lift hooks on top of the turret
# horns
# light protection rods on the hull sides
# air intake grill at the engine compartment
# hatch lock
# side stowage bin locks (partly from the PE-set, partly self-made, as I unfortunately lost some...)
# licence plate mounts
# jerry can fixing straps
# details of the tools at the front fenders
# armament
# tire valves with the armour protection
# front light bulbs
# tool holder straps improvements
the rest is PE but not from "Eduard", but from "The Show Modelling" (see picture). Unfortunately none of the vision covers could be used, as they are not fitting to the original.



Cool Eduard had a set for this thing.
ARENGCA
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:20 PM UTC
Very nice work. I am currently bulding a Luchs, and you have given me the bug to build it's Grand-daddy. This is likely to be my next project (assuming the kit is available, and the PE, etc.). So now the question is references. What references did you use, and can you recommend any others?

Thanks for the inspiration!
Viking
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Wien, Austria
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Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 12:48 AM UTC

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So now the question is references. What references did you use, and can you recommend any others?

most recommendable is
# Spielberger, Walter J.
"Die gepanzerten Radfahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres" : 1905-1945, Stuttgart 1974
# Scheibert, Horst
"Deutscher 8-Rad-Panzerspähwagen : der GS-Baureihe Sd.Kfz. 231, 232, 263 u. 233" Friedberg 1985, Waffen-Arsenal - issue number 92
# Perrett, Bryan
"German armoured cars and reconnaissance half-tracks : 1939-45"
London 1982, Vanguard series number 25
the first two are in German language.
sourkraut
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Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 04:23 AM UTC

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in case anybody is interested ,these vehicles are be produced to day for collectors and reenactors.the have 8 wheel drives and 4 wheel steering and 2 steering positions just like the originals,they sell for 40,000.
heres the link
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/6063/



Thanks for the look at todays prices and what I saw from a mechanic standpoint looked pretty good for $40,000. But I sure would hate to have to buy 8 tires at one time.


what concerns me is keeping the suspesion on something like maintained.id sure like to have one though
Spider
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 11:17 PM UTC
Wow - your work is fantastic - I would love to know how long it took you to complete this from start to finish.

Inspiring - to say the least, I find the desert corps are the most difficult to paint correctly. I may just give it a go and use your model as a reference.

One of the best I have seen!
Viking
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Posted: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:56 AM UTC
@ Spider:

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I would love to know how long it took you to complete this from start to finish.

I´m not a quick modeller, as i get often "lost" in detailing because of the fun it brings to me. Sometimes most of the things could have been bought as well, but besides fun, selfmade things make me more proud of my skills than simply gluing stock items together.
Therefore I´m not counting the time (I have only Tuesdays and Thursdays eves for modelling). Estimated period was 4 month.
Mar-74
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Posted: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:50 AM UTC
great work, well done
animal
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Posted: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:17 AM UTC
WOW!!!! This is fantastic. the weathering is surperb. Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:30 AM UTC
wow looks great,, thats a cool kit to build.,
my hobby shop has one i might get it some day
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 05:35 PM UTC
Very nice job!

Just recently got one of these and I want to add some detail to it somewhat. How did you make the wheels steer?
TankCarl
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 11:59 PM UTC
It looks very good,Viking.
What are those 2 devices strapped to the front fenders? I think a darker wash in their creases would make them stand out,and have a bit more detail revealed.
Very good pictures. (++) (++) (++) (++) (++) (++) (++) (++)
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