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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 01:19 PM UTC
hi I just started here and am a 132 scale modeler and I need a bit of help with figures,bridges,barbed wire (easy stuff guys i'm only 13) , scenery,buildings,and scratchbuilding
if anybody can it would be appreciated. thank you
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 01:40 PM UTC
Welcome aboard Luke! Glad you found us.

Wow! That's a mighty tall order to fill there in one sitting. I would like to first recommend that you browse through the various forums first to get idea more specific to what it you are looking for.
It is usually best to ask each of your questions separately in the corresponding forum, that way you will get better answers tailored to your q's.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 01:44 PM UTC
Welcome to Armorama Luke...

so u mean you're into 1/32 scale??

what sort of help that u want?? Feel free to ask any queries in the respevctive forum. Plenty of people here will help you.
Enjoy your stay!!
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 02:11 PM UTC
welcome to the big A luke, seems liek your a hardcore skater hien?

show your work, ask for tips, and you get answers

Frank
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 03:18 PM UTC
Welcom to the "Big A"
K.I.S.S.
Basic rule of all newbs in every endeavor.
Starting out.
My early works, long before you were a glint in your parents' eyes were based on photographs. I had something to look at and felt it was a place to start.
Accept criticism/critiques witout feeling attacked.
We all like being told our stuff is great, even if it's not. But we don't learn from that. We learn from others telling us how to improve (yeah, that means we aren't perfect.) The people here are very good about that. A few months back I posted a picture of a Wyatt Earp figire. Someone called me on the weak grasp his left hand had on his gun. I went back and replaced the hand and he looks a lot better now.
Mentors.
If there's a club near you, join up and show your work. Go to the IPMS website and look under the regional tab to see if there's anything established club near you. Check you loal hobby shop as well. There may be an unaffiliated club nearby. Try to get to a show or contest and meet the guys there for pointers. As Silantra said, post your works in progress and finished stuff here and ask for pointers.
Specific questions.
The more spcific the question, the better the chance of getting the answer you need.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 05:57 PM UTC
Welcome to the Dio forum Luke. The guys have covered almost everything you need to know to start off. Just to add my 2 cents is to focus on a particular era you like (i.e. WW II, Vietnam, Ancient, etc). It helps initially to narrow things down.

The Feature section on Amorama is another good place to start to pick up specifics like what you've asked about scenery, barb wire and such. If you still need more specifics, then just drop a line on the Dio forum.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 10:47 PM UTC
Welcome aboard, glad to have another diorama builder.
The previousposts make great points.

My first suggestion isto take a bit of time and review the features section.
Lots of good stuff in there

Here is one of the best start to finish easy to follow easy to execute diorama builds
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/142
Here is a second
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/690
Neill
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 04:50 AM UTC

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hi I just started here and am a 132 scale modeler and I need a bit of help with figures,bridges,barbed wire (easy stuff guys i'm only 13) , scenery,buildings,and scratchbuilding
if anybody can it would be appreciated. thank you



Cool... nice to have you with us. I hope we c an help you and I know we will learn from you in the future...

Lots of good suggestions so far.

Start simple then buld up more and more details until you are happy.

Here is a article I did on making buidings Building article - Hunter or Hunted

Get a copy of Shep Paines book "Building Diorama" ever Volume 1 or Volume 2 -- it isthe best... Msot hooby stores will have it or check EBAY ... (Heck ask Mom & Dad for a Birthday Gift)

Look at other people dioramas and ask lots of questions of HOW they did it!

Neill


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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 07:59 AM UTC
Welcome on the big-A.!

Nice to see some other young people

:-) :-) (sorry guys)


Q!
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 03:45 PM UTC
Welcome Luke,

At the risk of repeating everyone...take time to look around, read and ask specific questions.

Another idea is to use the Armorama SEARCH function, located near the Armorama menu bar on the right side. Type in simple searches, like Barbed Wire, etc. and see what all pops up.

Be patient, listen and learn and have Fun!

Jim
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 03:57 PM UTC
If I understand your post, it sounds like you might want to check out the Verlinden website.
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 05:20 PM UTC
Hi luke, wecome aboard, I'm new here too{but I'm definately not 13 anymore-hehe}...what you need is to research what you have in mind for the diarama{streets, buildings, time of year} and then search out G-scale train items that will work for you and modify them to fit your needs. G-guage is anything from 1:29th scale to 1:36th...{go ahead and ask me what my other hobby is...} ...you can also use evergreen styrene sheet stock for building sides and they're different beam pieces to make bridges, lights, window frames, and asst structures. G-scale trees and bushes can be bought or home made ones can work too{twist wire to form trunks and branches and fill in alittle to hide the gaps-viola! Buy a scale ruler and search out buildings and build to size..you can use balsa wood sheets/pieces and gouge out or cut out grooves for a brick/rock look and paint and weather to look like the real thing. Use your imagination...
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 05:40 PM UTC
Oh, luke, forgot to mention that the scale ruler{had at any decent office supply store} would be in fractions and you'd be wanting to use the 3/8ths scale side{1/4 for 1:25} or, for those of you across the pond, you'd require the MM ruler{also handly for us here for measuring our plat of survey for our house}.
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 05:14 AM UTC
hola and welcome,

If you like figs ww II try out the airfix multi pose range.
The kits are in 1/32 Scale and with swaping out arms and legs you can get a pretty good assortment. for your first diorama .

Greatmodels webstore has these guys and pretty good
prices and service on line.

Tell your brother we wish him well ! Come home safe, do what's nesscary when in doubt frag em
My Cuz Nathan is over there he's a 50 cal guy in a Hummer.

Tree
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 09:06 AM UTC
luke, check out the thread "a simple bridge" and you'll see what I meant. {I myself, would've used foam there} Now apply that theory to building walls, cobble stone streets, ext...foam, balsa, plaster of paris...choose your fave medium and go for it.
-"Model trains",{hehe- yeah}, grandfather worked for the CB&Q railroad {add vintage snowmobiles, paintball, oldcars, RC airplanes, collecting model kits old as I am, and WWII models to the list...not too bad for a soon to be 41 yr old.}
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Posted: Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 03:29 AM UTC
Hi Luke, welcome to the site. Being in the forces myself I think your brother would be absolutely chuffed to bits (Brit for very pleased!) to have a model from you of his convoy.

No point me repating what everyone else has said, suffice to say if you can't find the answer here then you probably won't find it anywhere.

Enjoy yourself!
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Posted: Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 02:42 PM UTC
Hi thanks for the kind words. all we can do is hope they shoot faster then the other guy.

There are a few modern trucks on the market made by
Testors ( Bigfoot is what the truck is called most military trucks have numbers not names )
and Afv Club ( they make a fuel truck and a cargo truck)

If you check them out you might find your truck.
Tamyia makes two modern accesory sets.,that can give it the lived in look.

Modern military figures of U.S troops can be found from
Tamyia and DML / Dragon.

All of that in 1/35 Scale
hope it helps

Tree
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 03:15 AM UTC
workin on my first 2 dioramas using erasers as brick since at school thats about the only thing i thought of to help and who knows maybe I can use model military as a social studies project and I might just get an A+ or an A- for using my imagination.
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 03:41 AM UTC
Luke..first off..welcome to the Big A. You are now a member of one of the best model sites around.
As far as to answer your questions...I would start as has been suggested..by reading and looking at the forums. You will find soo much information by so many exceptional modelers. i would suggest that you find a specific thing that you want help with...and then ask for information on it. Also as was suggested...Get the Shep Paine book..it will help you leaps and bounds. Another good book is also the Terrain and Modelling book. Check those out, and please if you have any specific questions..feel free to PM me.
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 05:49 AM UTC
welcome, first you had mentioned about using your imagination. well that is what this is all about to an extent. you can scratch build a lot of things for your dio just by looking around your house or anytime you go out to a store with your parents. you can use just about anything out there to make something else. if you try something and do not like it try something else. you learn constantly. i just recently got back into it and I am learning all the time. Plus read through a lot of the Forums and you can pick stuff up from these a lot just by reading. this is a great site and you can learn a lot from these guys and gals. I to do a lot of modern stuff and let me tell you there is not much out there and I have to make a lot of what i need. so keep an eye out for everything the possilities are unlimited to what you can use. good luck and hope to see you around.
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 12:24 PM UTC
Skate, Hobby lobby has a model railroad section for help with scenery try the book or VHS tape made by woodland scenics. I know it's mainly for rail road folks but both can tell you a lot the Shepard Paine how to build dioramas can also help you.

The VHS tapes are called " the clinic " and " sub terrain "

Look for Woodland scenics " learning kits " my hobby lobby sells them yours might. nomally I use foam sheet And a foam cutter to make my bases then cover them with a mix of celluclay ( Hobby lobby has this )
with water , elmers glue all, and water based crafts paint mixed in. ( the paint is soil color you know brown
(brunt umber) There is no exact mixture so make it in small amounts ( it's messy you'll love it )

Hope that info helps.



Nathan my cuz made it back from thte big litter box
( Iraq ) a few weeks ago hope your brother is still okay.
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 04:50 PM UTC
So far i find this post very useful for me. B/c i am a newB myself. Hopefully this will help to get wheel to start turning in my head. I'll post my first dio soon. ~wave
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Posted: Friday, October 21, 2005 - 04:51 AM UTC
Welcome aboard Luke. This is a great place for modellers. Don't hesitate to ask any questions, there are plenty of people here willing to help. If you want to do dios, then get ahold of Shep Paine's diorama book. I was about your age when I found a copy in the local library and was inspired to get into armor modelling. I must have checked that thing out 40 times. It's full of good information on everything from planning your dio to painting the figures. Of course, that's not the only way to go. Check out articles on this site, missing-lynx, and ww2modelmaker for some inspiration and advice. When it comes to figures, the guys at planetfigure.com are always willing to help you improve your painting skills. Check them out.
For the Iraq diorama, Warriors has some nice modern US troops. They are Marines but could also be used for Army. Just keep in mind that resin figures are rather expensive and the dust can be toxic. If you get into resin figures eventually, always wear a mask when cuttting resin and do it outside, like in the garage, if possible.
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