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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 11:52 AM UTC
Yes folks
My contestdio is also finished at last. Although it`s finished everybody can still come with comments that only could make it better

Did some work on the snow today and I really am satisfied with it
Worked at the open edges put wallspackle on it and painted it grey.

Have a look and tell me what you all think of the endresult













the whole and complete work on the dio can be viewed in this 6 paged MSN album:
"DISTRACTION"

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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 02:43 PM UTC
Hey Faust. Good work again. The little final touches really make a good job of the whole dio and set it off. The snow ties it all together as well.
But here I have a few opinions that you may consider. There is no snow on the helmet of the dummy or the blanket of the sniper. The helmet would most definately have snow of some kind laying on it as the house has no roof ......... there may have been no snow since the sniper lay down? Or maybe you are going for the dumy being set up since the last snow as well?
The blanket seems to be "floating" in places. maybe it would be a good idea to have it toucing the ground all around?
What did you use for snow?
Good luck now with your entry in the competition!
Frank
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 04:02 PM UTC
Very very nice idea looks like it came out nice
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 06:48 PM UTC
Sneaky! And I can see that it might actually work... especially if he misses on the first shot! The distraction would buy him time for a second before he has to high-tail it to better cover!
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 08:00 PM UTC
Hi Faust,
Thought you cover the sniper wiht some kind of shelter like corrugated metal sheet, etc?
Any way looks good, though I think you 'd better 'dirty' the blanket some more, as it stands out very much right now.
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 08:45 PM UTC
Faust,that is damn nice
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:22 PM UTC
Yoh

Well thanks for the good comments all you guys
As I already wrote in this topic It`s still open to any suggestions that improve the whole thing

The Floating blanket thing is something where I`m not so satisfied about. Will find something for that today. Need to dirt it up anyway
About the snow on the helmets. The dummy was hit after the snow was fallen that explains why there is no snow on the helmet of Greta. The Sniper had to stand up to put Greta on her feet so the snow is just fallen of the Snipers helmet. That explains why there is no more snow on the helmets.
About the debrie I can say. The original Idea was to make a shelter for my sniper from corregated sheet metal, wood and other debrie but the problem is that the shelter got to high and would be an enormous eyecatcher in the scene. If I put the corregated sheet metal and the wood and bricks on to the blanket (resting on the Sniper) there was another problem: How did the sniper put that on his back and legs, try it yourself laying on your bellly and try to put different items of different sizes and different weights on your back and legs without ruining your shelter.

This is some explanation of my dio

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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:24 PM UTC
Plasticbattle

Forgot the last sentence of your post
The snow is made from talcumpowder and hairspray/fixative
this is a method that I`ve used several times now and it`s really good lookin` snow

plus the fact that it will keep it`s witheness till the end of your days


m:-)
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Quoted Text

Hi Faust,
Thought you cover the sniper wiht some kind of shelter like corrugated metal sheet, etc?
Any way looks good, though I think you 'd better 'dirty' the blanket some more, as it stands out very much right now.




I had the exact same remarks :

- If I'd be that sniper, I'd settle under some plate of steel or something to keep me hidden a bit.
- that blanket should touch the ground, all around. You can do that by making it wet with water/glue and place it over the sniper, let dry ON THE DIO, so it all sticks to the ground.
- after that, you can paint the blanket (or the sheet, whatever). Under no circumstances the blanket would be white in the conditions this guy is in : he's laying on the ground in rubble and dirt. Even if the blanket is not ALL dirty, there will be a number of nasty dark smears on it. I'd say try it out on another blanket (paper tissue or toilet paper ?) and see the effects.
- some places are more snowed than others. The lenin picture, the helmets (both),...
- it was a good idea to "arm" Greta. She looks more convincing.

That sounds like a lot of comment, but ... hey ! you"ve got a fine little dio here !!!

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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 10:32 PM UTC
GF

thanks for the comments

about the blanket I can say that it`s made of aluminium foil and I will probably glue it to the ground. in a another post in this topic I already said I`m going to dirty up the blanket.

the helmets, explained that too in another post

but anyway thanks man.
does Volkie already have another home??


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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:51 AM UTC
Faust,

all's been said before as far as my crytics are concerned. Despite those wandering thoughts the dio is looking .....GOOOOOOOOOOD !!!!


Wonderful work mate !!
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:03 AM UTC
Faust, if I may....

I think that it looks real nice as is. I'm glad that you did not use the sheet metal covering.

If I was a sniper, I would tend to stay away from hiding under any metal as this would only intensify the cold and misery especially sitting in wait for any length of time. Worse if you are even the slightest bit damp. This looks real "cold" as is!

Of course, the tactical situation takes precedence, and whatever covering is available should be used to it's fullest.

Great job!

Thanks,
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:26 AM UTC

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about the blanket I can say that it`s made of aluminium foil and I will probably glue it to the ground.



Robert,
I suggest you give it a try with another figure, just to see what the difference looks like. Soak a piece of paper tissue in water+whiteglue solution and drape it over his back. You'll see the blanket "falls" over the figure and rests on the ground, whereas tin foil looks a bit wrinkled and hangs above the ground.
If you have time, I suggest the following test for the Armorama laboratory :

1) take 2 equal or comparable figures
2) "drape" a piece of tin foil on one
3) "drape" a piece of glue-soaked tissue on the other
4) compare and see what you like best
5) take a picture of both so we can all see in this forum. Maybe you are right, but then the point is proven once and for all, too.
6) let's make it a bet. If the tin foil looks best, you come over to Antwerp and we'll have a drink. If the other one looks best, you come to Antwerp and have a drink, too. In both cases I pay. (Can I take Volkie too ?)




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does Volkie already have another home??



Not yet. the place is still for sale (see last update pic in my post). He's bound to find something soon, though.
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:38 AM UTC
GF

That`s ok I`ll do the test with the blankets
I`ll post the pics. Everybody looks
decides and drinking in Antwerp sounds ok to me too
And of course Volkie can come too not a problem at all

but I have already glued the blanket to the ground I`m satisfied with it
but I still will do the Armorama Laboratorium Experiment (ALE) and show it to you all



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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:36 AM UTC
WoW!!!! I really like how that turned out FAUST... :-) Great job !!!!!
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 11:48 AM UTC

Quoted Text

If I was a sniper, I would tend to stay away from hiding under any metal as this would only intensify the cold and misery especially sitting in wait for any length of time. Worse if you are even the slightest bit damp. This looks real "cold" as is!


For this reason also I think that the helmets would "hold" the snow. As snow falls on damp ground it melts away, but tends to lay on cold metal objects. The metal will hold th cold and snow will lay easier here than on most other items present in the dio. Maybe we are starting to get too technical now.
Its a great dio and deserves credit. Good luck in the competition Faust!
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:21 PM UTC
agree with everyone the blanket or whatever it is needs to blend in alot more as the eye is drawn straigth to it. Your idea was to have us drawn to the manican so make the manican a little more flashy so it stands out more than sniper bob.
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:30 PM UTC
Faust:
Nice job, I had to go back to the first photo to even find the real sniper, I got caught looking at the dummy.... just what you wanted, very keen idea and good execution in your dio.
In passing, try the tissue method for the blanket, sometimes I don't even use glue, I just wet the tissue, form it to shape and then paint it. It seems to stick by itself.
Very nice job, keep 'em comin'!!!

Tot Ziens,

Nate
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:34 PM UTC
I give you all the story of my dio:

Sit back and read it carefully

On a very cold day in the middle of the winter,
on a street corner in the middle of the dark ruins
of stalingrad a russian sniper walks around searching
for it`s prey
minutious scanning every centimeter of the surrounding
area. He looks for that unprotected german soldier that is
with it`s mind at the mess tent where they all drink nice warm coffee
and are smoking cigarets without freezing their hands of.
Suddenly the russian sniper stops and holds his breath.
he grabs his gun and looks trough the scope of it. He isn`t mistaken
just inside his firerange he spots a silhouet with wich he recognises
as a german helmet carrying figure.
slowly he lifts his gun, put the scope on eye height, aims, holds breath
and shoots. The silhouet tumbles to the ground.
then suddenly a dry bang echo`s through the ruins and the russian sniper
falls to the ground shot in the head. Never to know what shot him.
From under a white blanket a german sniper stands up walks to the house where just his "Comrade" was shot.
he grabs the puppet put it on his feet again. grabs the helmet from the floor
and put it back on the puppet. before he walks away he straightens up the
jacket of the puppet, then walks out of the ruin and lays down grabs his blanket put it on top of him to wait at the next russian soldier that get distracted.

There was no snow fallen since he killed his last victim. Twenty minutes long he lays there already waiting for the next one to shoot at. He puts Ice in his mouth to keep the damp of his breath invisible from this point he is waiting for the next russian soldier. He`ll be quiet till the next soldier is spotted. Twenty minutes the sniper watches his environment. minutes get hours and he is just waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waaaaaaiting


This is the original concept story from my first post in this contest
look at it and compare the dio to the story

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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:45 PM UTC
What did you use on the barrel of the snipers gun to break up the silouette? Is that tissue of foil. Looks good.

NATE
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:53 PM UTC
porkchop

the burlap on the snipers gun was made of the stuff teabags are made of (I read this thing in a post in Envars killing time topic and started to experiment with that)
I cut out thin strokes out of the teabag and folded it on to the gunbarrel. but it wasn`t as flexible as I hoped and it bended back in almost the way that it used to be when it was a teabag. Then I thought: Glue it down. So I grabbed my CA glue and put a drop on the beginning and at the end of the burlap. But the problem was that teabag paper has got this very open structure and it really sucks the glue out of your bottle. The result of this was that the burlap went transparent but also very very hard ad this made it easily to paint

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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:56 PM UTC
Hmmmmm, very intersting.
I usually work in larger scales and have a british sniper on the horizion. I was thinking of using an old T-shirt for the burlap, but I may take a look at the tea bag idea as well. Wonder of the bag would be more flexible AFTER it had been used. Did you use the t-bag first?

NATE
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 01:05 PM UTC
Yeah porkchop first made a good cup of tea of it and then I us......

Ah no I just stole a brand new teabag out of our kitchen at home cut it open threw the tea away and then glued painted it. jaddi jaddi jaddi

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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 01:07 PM UTC
STEAL!!!!! Has this Tea bag gone missing in action? Will you get in trouble for it??!!!!!!!!!!


NATE
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2002 - 01:10 PM UTC
Yep I gave the teabag up as K.I.A.

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