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Rockets and Missiles - Official Thread
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Posted: Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 04:23 AM UTC

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@Vance: those rocketplanes sound good. I hope you enter them!!



excellent - I broke out my special hobby x-15a2 kit from the stash last night, broke open the plastic bag, cleaned up some of the resin bits, and did lots of web research on the plane.

-v-
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Posted: Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 04:37 AM UTC

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've decided I am going to do a Bell X-1 and/or a North American X-15, both of which are basically manned and winged rockets - does that qualify? Seems to me if the space shuttle does, then those should, no?



The original "Rocket Ship" - your in, good luck.
N E O
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Posted: Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 05:00 PM UTC
Hi All!

Here's my contribution to the rockets and missiles campaign, 1/35 Italeri Maultier with Nebelwerfer 42 on its back. The Germans liked the Nebelwerfer a lot it seems, to give it mobility and protect the crews, they were mounted on available vehicles, in this case, armored Maultiers for better performance.

I won't comment on the kit because it is a second-hand kit, its previous owner has either taken or lost several parts some of which are really important (for example the lugs that secure the front wheels in place are missing, the wheels keep falling off, there are no shovels or gas cans, all taken away). Also parts of the hull were damaged and/or painted with a brush while still on sprue (for what God knows). The Nebelwefer was assembled, as I couldn't take it apart without breaking it, I tried to repair it best I could. I'm trying to make something of the tragedy that came out of the box, for retribution I will build a fresh Italeri kit after some time. (Should have listened to its owner when he said "The kit is in desperate condition")

If there are marks or irregularities in the paint job, it is generally left overs from the previous paint. Otherwise I airbrushed Gunze Sangyo's Panzer Color Set 2.








I've edited tihs message as I have made more progress. Now, I will make detail painting and progress on to clear coating and weathering.

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Posted: Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:53 PM UTC
Started my Soviet SS12 (Arii 1/48 kit). Couple of in-progress shots.




Have to scratch entire rear section of the MAZ transporter (it's the old style from a Scud not the newer boxed style of the SS12).


On another note...
How's everyone doing so far? Builds coming along?

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Posted: Friday, August 04, 2006 - 07:14 AM UTC
OK, I'm in. Didn't see this campaign start, but now I know it's here, my Mercury orbital Lab seems to fit right in.

For the obligatory two in-progress piccies, I'll use this one:


and this one:



I will keep posting WIP photos on the other thread and then will post the final shots here. Does that sound kosher Neo?

Paul
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Posted: Friday, August 04, 2006 - 07:21 AM UTC

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Here's my contribution to the rockets and missiles campaign, 1/35 Italeri Maultier with Nebelwerfer 42 on its back.



Emre,

If I may make a constructive criticism, glue the suspension units in place with all four road wheels laying flat on the table as the rounded bow of the lower track run is caused by the stiffness of the kit track and was not seen on real vehicles. It looks very odd to see the track look like a rocking chair. :-)

Looking good otherwise.

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:33 AM UTC
Little picture update on my progress, slow but steady.
The "greener" parts are Zvezda, other Italeri.
As you can see with the earlier picture in this thread I changed the position of the
spare wheels to the back of the cabin. I saw this on a picture of a GMC truck based Kayutscha (see my gallery). If someone knows a good walkarround of it, please let me know!

I found the Italeri cabin (specially the front window) a drag...
Tell me what you think!





Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:13 AM UTC

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Here's my contribution to the rockets and missiles campaign, 1/35 Italeri Maultier with Nebelwerfer 42 on its back.



Emre,

If I may make a constructive criticism, glue the suspension units in place with all four road wheels laying flat on the table as the rounded bow of the lower track run is caused by the stiffness of the kit track and was not seen on real vehicles. It looks very odd to see the track look like a rocking chair. :-)

Looking good otherwise.

Paul




I came up with another idea to fix that and done it already about 10 days ago. Instead of gluing them in place (because the tracks are a little tight, they break off again), I took a plastic glue gun(I forgot what they were called, it's one of those where there's a white plastic stick and the gun melts that) and filled the interior of the vehicle full with shotgun pellets. The total weight of those presses the vehicle down and makes for a realistic look, as well as a "realistic weight" :-)

As I was out of town for business I couldn't work more on that. However I plan to finalise the Maultier soon.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 04:23 AM UTC
Done and done!!!

My Italeri 1/35 Maultier with Nebelwerfer is finally complete. This is a tired old mule (Hence its name "Maultier", after some battle and somehow ended up with all of its accessories missing (Second hand kit as I stated before, previous owner had taken whatever he could it seems). I know my skills suck and yes the overall finish is a total disappointment, but hey, I'm still trying to acquire skills.

Criticism well accepted as long as it is productive.

Cheers All!









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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 03:24 PM UTC

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I know my skills suck and yes the overall finish is a total disappointment, but hey, I'm still trying to acquire skills.



????? Did anybody say your buidling suck?

I don't think it sucks!
Actually I find it a rather good build!
And I don't say that as a "attaboy" comment, but I really mean it!
Personally I envy you for the cammo painting; that's a weak spot in my techniques and I find the cammouflage on your model very good!

About the (missing) asseciores: if you look on this page on the Missing Linx website you find several pictures of the vehicle, and I don't see many asseciores on the "real thing" either. So, I don't think you model is missing anything at all. But if you think it's missing something you can always try to find some spares from other kits or try a bit of scratchbuilding. But, as I said, I don't miss anything on your model!
Don't forget; in real it was a very simplified vehicle itself!

This model is definatly NOT a dissapointment!
It's neatly build, has great cammouflage and is well weathered and well done decals (no gloss on them for instance!).

My ONLY critic (as was allready stated by the other Paul (AKA tankmodeler) are the vinyl tracks. On the mentioned pictures you can see the tracks are "hanging" a bit between the upper wheels. It's a detail that is hard to model with the vinyl tracks.
There are some tricks to change it. When you want to use the vinyl tracks and they are not glued on the wheels and tyhe suspension is still workable / movable, you can use the following technique:

Add some bits of sprue as "spacers" between the body/hull of the vehicle and the upper tracks in a way you push the tracks down. Do this while you put some weight on the model (in a way that the lower tracks stay flat on the undergound and the wheels are lined up horizontal).
If you find the right position of the tracks let some superglue drips flueing between all wheels and track and let dry. Than remove the spacers and the tracks are done. But be carefull with this method! Sometimes the tracks are a bit too short and too stiff. The suspension will brake off due to the track pushing the parts together. A way to avoid it is to soften the vynil tracks a bit with a hairdryer. But, look out again with the hairdryer! Soften the tracks, but not melt them (or other parts of the model).

An other method would be replacing the tracks with separate linked tracks (such as those from Friul).
These tracks are also called Individually Linked Tracks or "Indy tracks" (my first months on Armorama I thought they refered to racing tires with this!!!)

Just cut the vinyl tracks an place the new ones. When the suspension is glued solid on the model you carefully have to remove and replace the suspension and wheels in the right position. If the suspension is movable, you only have to add the new tracks.
If the tracks are "done"; this is to become a great model!

As said, Friul offers tracks for this model. Their (metal) tracks have weight of their own and therefor are "hanging through" between the wheels by itself. If you can find plastic separate tracks for it (aftermarket product or perhaps spares from some other model) you probably have to glue them in a way the tracks hang a bit.

A good article about using Indy tracks can be found on Armorama.
See Bob Lester's article "Make Tracks!"

Indy tracks come in dfferent brands and different prices. For instance for a Tiger tank 1:35 prices vary from 30 euro's to 3,95 euro. And not always are the best results achieved with the most expensive ones!!!

Take care!

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 03:48 PM UTC
Thanks a lot for the comments Paul!

The camouflage is no big deal, easy to freehand with a Badger 100 G with slow and patient work(though I must admit - I really really hate masking stuff to paint, so I try everything to freehand camos, that really helped me to improve :-) ), you can do it easily.

The tracks with this kit always seems to be the issue. I'm used to batting down and shaping Tamiya tracks(they are always a bit loose and therefore shapeable), however the Italeri tracks for all Maultiers (I've also built an Opel Blitz Maultier, same suspension and tracks) are too short as well as stiff. Just getting them to stay that way without breaking the suspension parts was a buzz and further attempts at softening down the vinyl only resulted in cracks appearing in the tracks. For fear of losing them totally, I've quit trying.

As for aftermarket parts... Apart from few articles of AFV Club, they are not available in Turkey and need to be ordered from the net (which is a whole new adventure for me). In addition, although your comments were warmly welcomed, I do not think I have yet got the necessary skills to try my luck with aftermarket parts.

Yet I've noted how to acquire proper tracks, as I have another Italeri kit (this one completely new) stashed away and when I feel bolder I will try my hand with that one.

Thanks a lot again for the comments!

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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:58 PM UTC
Hey Emre,

i have to agree wit hPaul on this one, your modelling skills definately do not suck. The camo scheme is very good as is the weathering, in both cases it is very easy to ruin a good build with a bad paint job or too much weathering, something you have avoided.

The only thing that "jumped" out at me was the tracks, and that has already been pointed out so no need ot rehash that....nice model mate, congrats!

Regards from the Swamp

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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:56 PM UTC

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I do not think I have yet got the necessary skills to try my luck with aftermarket parts.



Hey Emre,
Well, I understand. But when the time comes you feel ready for it, try the Masterbox tracks for it, they are very easy to put together and the cost make experimenting worthwile; just 4,50 euro for a set!

Paul!
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:10 AM UTC
Thanks a lot again Paul! You are the man !

Edit: I have ordered the Masterbox track set from terrahobbies just a moment ago. It should reach here in a week or so. I also decided to give it a try, worst thing that can happen is I will ruin the aftermarket tracks and put on the vinyl ones back. I will update my entry if my attempt is successfull (I will also update my previously built but not finished Opel Maultier hopefully).

I'm already excited to see how this will work out. Hope it turns out to be OK.
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Posted: Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 11:56 PM UTC
Greetings again,

Well well, look at what happened... I received my Master Box Panzer 1 tracks and with some doubt, started working. To try them, I decided to build only one side and do the other if things worked out OK. Check for yourselves:

Before, with vinyl tracks:


After, with vinyl tracks off and MasterBox tracks put on:


I think it is definitely worth it, even with my non-existent skills. For the "sagging" look, I found two pictures of Maultiers with sagging tracks and tried to copy them best I could.

If you like it and think it is OK, I will build the track for the right side and then weather them all over again.
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Posted: Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 01:41 AM UTC
Hi Emre

I think it's a major improvement and the "sagged" track looks realistic.
Just bit rust and weathering.
Go for it and place the track on the other side to!

Paul

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Posted: Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 05:31 PM UTC
Now my SAM-6 has arrived this morning I have joined the campaign.
Some good looking models so far. Looking forward to this one.
Cheers
Tony
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Posted: Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 06:35 PM UTC
Hey Tony,

SAM-6 is a great kit. Welcome aboard and good luck.

N E O
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Posted: Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 09:26 AM UTC
Man there is some great work on this campaign! If I had time for this one I would get the monster Revell OOP kit of the space shuttle, tower, and launch pad, but they are hard to find and get stupid money on ebay for them. I can only imagine how long it takes to put one together too....
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:25 AM UTC
Hi,
I can't find the this campaign in the active campaigns list... I'd love to join if I still can.

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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2006 - 10:41 AM UTC
Hi Andras!

It's in the active campaignlist on Modelgeek.
Click here for the campaign page to enlist.

Paul
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2006 - 10:11 PM UTC
Thank you. I was looking at the armorama campaigns.
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 02:55 PM UTC
Hi, I started my project about three weeks ago, and I am building other models, as well. I will try to finish a B-Wing and an Imperial Star Destroyer, but if I can not I will just finish the B-Wing.

I made the cockpit, assembled the other parts and sprayed with Tamiya surfacer, and the photos of the current situation are:







I will attach the canopy, correct the joint, mask it and then start painting. All comments are welcome.

Thanks.
Cagin
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Posted: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:40 AM UTC
Ben a while - How's everyone doing?

How's all those Rockets and Missiles kits coming along?

My SS-12 to get things going again... bout 75% done.


NEO
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Posted: Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 02:08 AM UTC
hello posted some pics awhile ago but forgot to tell you . Well restarted again and seem to be making tracks i've part weathered the model and i'm starting to make a base for it