I was wondering what you all thought that Dragon could do to improve the 3n1 kits especially in the 39'-45' series?
My 2 cents: Maybe some resin zimm or muzzle breaks? ( that would certainly drive the cost up but be worth it if it was quality)
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 12:29 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 12:48 PM UTC
I understand where you're coming from on this one - however, I don't consider it likely or practical. The problem is that if you start adding stuff like this, the price very quickly starts going thru the roof - look (as an example) how uncompetitive the price of Italeri's Sahariana is. Areas like this will remain in the hands of the AM people until the (plastic) manufacturers find a cheaper and realistic solution...
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 03:49 PM UTC
hey,
I agree with Jim, overall it's important, just to get a very good model on the market, with maybe a few extra goodies added, this way it's more affordable ,if the manuf. started loading up their boxes, there would be less people who could afford the basic model itself ,this way ,the model can be built OOB, and the AM people take over and if your wallet can handle it. Wth the rising costs of living, i know i won't be able to.
Joe
I agree with Jim, overall it's important, just to get a very good model on the market, with maybe a few extra goodies added, this way it's more affordable ,if the manuf. started loading up their boxes, there would be less people who could afford the basic model itself ,this way ,the model can be built OOB, and the AM people take over and if your wallet can handle it. Wth the rising costs of living, i know i won't be able to.
Joe
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 08:47 PM UTC
Only thing I'd like to see change on DML's 3in1 kits or any of their other Premium kits would be workable track.
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 09:27 PM UTC
To me the kits are a perfect balance between price and goodies added. The only thing that really needs attention is the Instructions. While usable, they are a tad cluttered.
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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2006 - 12:11 AM UTC
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To me the kits are a perfect balance between price and goodies added. The only thing that really needs attention is the Instructions. While usable, they are a tad cluttered.
Having done several of the various 2 or 3-in-1s, I'll echo that wholeheartedly! :-)
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:36 PM UTC
Hi,
i think they sould improve the PE sets which are too small and mazy ,
even though it is my first attempt at PE....
and a good gen 2 figuer or too will be nice
i think they sould improve the PE sets which are too small and mazy ,
even though it is my first attempt at PE....
and a good gen 2 figuer or too will be nice
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:41 PM UTC
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To me the kits are a perfect balance between price and goodies added. The only thing that really needs attention is the Instructions. While usable, they are a tad cluttered.
You nailed it John!
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:47 AM UTC
Hi all,
I'm not sure what the Eduard PE sets cost in Europe or elsewhere but I just bought 1 set of the Zimmerit for the DML Brumbar (late), 1 detail set and a set of side skirts for the Italeri Hetzer for about $36.00 including S&H.
http://www.greatmodels.com (there is a link to Greatmodels webstore at the top of this page) has AM and PE on sale right now.
If your in the market for these sets now may be a good time to hook yourself up!
It's the AM tracks that cost an arm and a leg.
Jeff
I'm not sure what the Eduard PE sets cost in Europe or elsewhere but I just bought 1 set of the Zimmerit for the DML Brumbar (late), 1 detail set and a set of side skirts for the Italeri Hetzer for about $36.00 including S&H.
http://www.greatmodels.com (there is a link to Greatmodels webstore at the top of this page) has AM and PE on sale right now.
If your in the market for these sets now may be a good time to hook yourself up!
It's the AM tracks that cost an arm and a leg.
Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:57 AM UTC
What's wrong with the sahariana?
I paid £20 for it and it's quality.
We are talking about the resin engine, 2 figures etc right, or am I thinking of something completely different?
I paid £20 for it and it's quality.
We are talking about the resin engine, 2 figures etc right, or am I thinking of something completely different?
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 03:05 AM UTC
These kits are greate. I would like to see more kits like thats.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 03:07 AM UTC
We have choice. Don't you think ?
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 03:23 AM UTC
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Hi,
i think they sould improve the PE sets which are too small and mazy ,
even though it is my first attempt at PE....
and a good gen 2 figuer or too will be nice
Too small !!!!?? They are up to the scale yeah.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 04:36 AM UTC
He wasn't talking about scale he was pointing out that there are a lot of tiny pieces. As to the kits, I too don't like the directions. Maybe they ought to print the assembly stuff as either different sets or add separate pages for the three variations keeping the common assembly like undercarriage as the first part.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:53 PM UTC
well Eduard etch has just come down in price and Atak zim kits are fairly cheap and gorgeous, both adding about 40 bucks to a $35 Dragon kit that already comes with a ton of extras, still much less then the 'Tamiya' aproach to adding goodies when they take old kits and add indies, basic etch, and a metal barrell for some $75.
I would imagine some of the older kits will get reworked slightly into smart or premium versions like the Panther, Elefant, T34, and King tiger have. I had just mentioned they need to upgrade the Stug as there is no 'ultimate' modern kit of it right now and Dragon already has at least 5 versions but are all about 10 years old-and two days later it was announced one's in the works.
I would imagine some of the older kits will get reworked slightly into smart or premium versions like the Panther, Elefant, T34, and King tiger have. I had just mentioned they need to upgrade the Stug as there is no 'ultimate' modern kit of it right now and Dragon already has at least 5 versions but are all about 10 years old-and two days later it was announced one's in the works.