Good eye Jed! I just noticed that! Hey, its all good. My wife doesnt know how to change a tire either LOL :-)

Here's the Webshots pic that Ciro is talking about......

Yeah....Bob is right!!!this is the exactly photo!!!!in the next one(on webshots) there's a close up of the super swamper tire.I'm not sure but the sand camo looks with some shade of grey...I've this impression but I think that is for the weather conditions and a camera.....

Hi guys

Ciao a tutti!!!

Ciro

That's a neat-looking vehicle you found there, Ciro. I'm particularly intrigued by the cupola armor, which apparently holds the gunner's hatch open in a vertical position. That's the first time I've seen that setup in a picture. I'm sure it will make for a cool model.

Anybody out seen a similar cupola armor package setup? It looks different from the standard M1114 kits, but I'm not certain.

I have been looking all over the net for referance pictures as I am building 4 humvees for the humvee campaign, and I have to tell you, I havent seen another picture of that style cupola armor on any other humvee. All the other ones have the hatch opening to the rear. My guess was that it was a field mod by the troops that was based on the design of the M1114's cupola armor. Looks like it would be an easy scratch build. Interesting find Ciro.

Hi guys....so these are my projects..a 1026 humvee like the photo on webshots...with swamper tires and armored door,gunshields...( thanks to Jeff for the drawing about gunshield)...I've seen another intresting M1025,with gunshield and field armored door,made up of pieces of steel placed on the doors(similar armoured doors in blast model set,but not the same)...these pieces are not paint,and looks rust...if I would do the same thing(with plasticard) which colour would I use as base?!steel?gun metal?I've noted that many humvees have satin black panels...any suggestion about this?
Other question.....Windows.
Have they particular colour?!(shadow of green or blue)
Do you paint them?!

Sorry for poor English

Best regards

Ciro

Ciro--I would leave the windows clear--the glass is pretty thick and has a faint greenish/blueish tint when viewed up close, but not from far away (as you can probably tell from the many pictures on the Web). For the rust color, I have seen several different techniques described here on Armorama. I have not tried any of them myself, but the results look very convincing. Try doing a search of the site. I know ti recently described how he did it for his HEMTT build, and others have as well.

Gary--Yeah, it may be a field mod to give ASK gunners similar protection to that enjoyed by M1114 gunners. That said, I did find a brochure from a company that makes a training cupola armor package for the M1025 (so it's not real armor), but it didn't have good pictures. I have a hunch that this or another company also makes (or made) real cupola armor packages for the M1025 a couple of years ago, when the M1114s were just starting to arrive in theater and there was a clear need for better armor for gunners. I really want to model this type of cupola armor for my Tamiya ASK build, but I have no idea how it attaches to the cupola. It gives Humvees with the ASK package a very neat "Mad Max" look, IMO.

Hi Ciro,

About your side armor. If you are going to try to recreate the blast models side and door armor out of plasticard, go for it! I am currently doing the same thing right now. I have finished the side armor, and door armor. I will try to take some pictures for you and post them tomorrow (my desktop doesnt like my digital camera for some strange reason). Trust me, its very easy to recreate what Blast models did. As far as paint goes, my hummer is going to be one that got shot up on convoy duty. So there are going to be a bunch of gun shot holes and dents in the armor and hummer. from what I have seen on the web, the shot up armor and standard hummer body parts show either a hole or a dent and damaged bare steel around the area. So for me, I am first painting a base coat of steel so when I recreate the damage, the steel will show under the final paint. That would be my suggestin to you if your going to make bullet holes, scratches, paint chips or other paint damage.

PS - Stop appologizing for your English! You speak better English then most of the illegal aliens in the US do! LOL :-)

HI Ciro,

I wanted to post some pictures to show you how easy it is to recreate the Blast side armor on the humvee. Im building this one for the hummer campaign. All scratch built items are made from Evergreen plasticard, I knocked this out in a few nights in my spare time.

Ciro,
I started with a rust red/brown or brown/orange base color. Then just vary the shades up a bit and add just a little gun metal and steel around the edges. Here is a shot of my doors if you ahven't already seen it.



Haven't done any work on my M1114, still here at this point, but i am gonna get cracking on it.

Gary.....thanks very much for photos...intersting....only a question(the same that I've post to Jeff Edgar)...on your gunshield.
Referring to drawing of Pete Becerra is important to know if is it a tridimensional view of gunshield or if is it a view in plant....it's important to recreate it.
In fact if is it tridimensional view all the gunshield is more or less a big rectangle with same part cut away,the bend on the left side...(if you draw it in plant)
If the view is a plant view the left side of shield is inclined referring to line up of all gunshield....I don't speak English very well and I don't know if my consideration is clear....if you have a drawing software you can ricreate(I do it) the gunshield and incline it and make a comparison with the original one in photos...in my opinion the second consideration is correct.
Maybe Pete can help me.

Pete....your model is fantastic and the colour of your add. armoured doors is exactly what I mean.Jeff Edgar have draw(cause you posted it to him) and he is so gentle to post me..More photos of your 1114 please!!!!!

Hi guys

Ciro

Ciro,
I think I got what your explaining. See if this is correct. From the diagram I drew below (curtiousy of SOPMOD6), use the template of the shield and draw it flat on a peice of plastic. Just bend on the dotted line and the angle of the shield will come out automatically the way the template is drawn out.



Here is another shot of the turret from behind:



Ciro, you can click here to go see my photo album with more pictures of the M1114 and M1025:

My Phot Album on Photo Bucket

Yeah Pete ...this is exactly what I mean...my gunshield come out like yours in the pictures...
I like very much your figures...very very intersting....like the 1114...and your 1025 is beautifull.I'll use it like esample.
Next week I'll start with my projects
M1026(eduard 1026 doors)+super swamper tires and ask kit as show in photo that I found and a 1025 with field add.a rmoured doors and gunshield +new radial tires..and I want build another humvee but I still looking for an intersting subject...any suggestion?!

Thanks for your help.

Ciro

You want suggestions, how about this hummer? It's one of our recruiting Hummers.



Seriously, how about something like this one Ciro? This is one of the Hummers that my Brigade had when they where there last year.



Or one of the new M1151's? It's a cross between a M1025 and a M1114.

Well, I was going to answer the questions for CIro, but Pete did a better job then I ever could! Hell, he even answered a few of my questions I didnt even know I had yet! :-) :-) :-)

Pete, your 1114 is looking great, cant wait to see it finished! And the drawings look spot on. I saw the first one finished a month or so ago, and if I didnt say it before, "awesome job"

Ah, I almost forgot.............Pete, on your completed hummer, what did you use to write "one weekend a month my *#$"" on the placard on the spare tire?

I have a couple of slogans to be written, but I definitely cant paint something that small with a brush. I picked up a paint pen with an ultra fine plastic tip, but the paint tends to run. I was curious how you did yours. Thanks!

Intersting the Humvee of your brigade....can you give me more details?are they 1025?!I see 1026 style doors Right?!Is there a draw on the gunshield?!Thanks for your help Pete!!!!And Gary too

Safe

Ciro

Gary,
I used a "Rapido Graph" style pen I picked up at Hobby Lobby. It is a disposable typ graphic pen that isn't that expensive as Rapido Graph pens. If I'm not mistaken, it was .05mm tip. Works great for stuff like that and the ink is permanent. Comes in a couple of other colors and tip sizes.

here is a close up of the gun shield. It was the units logo.



Ciro,
I got that picture form one of the guys who works with me when he came back. I know he has some more and I will ask him for them. They were M1025 with the ASK kits on them. if you notice on the front of it, it has a hood scoop over the radiator.

Here is a picture of the back end of one of them. It just got hit by an IED and the air condtion unit on top got hit and is leaking anti freeze over theback.

m1151 is also an intersting subject....is it possible to build it?!can I have more details?!Is it in use?!

Ciro

Sure is possible to build out of a standard M1025 kit Ciro. I uploaded a bunch of detail shots over on Prime Portal a few weeks back when we had them here. The hard top is a bit different, but can be made out of the existing kit hard top. The only thing that you would have to get is the grill from the MIG M1114 kit and the front and rear bumper.

Hey thanks for the info Pete! One last question, then I will stop being a pain in the ......LOL........what is that dual cooling fan aparatus on the rear hatch? I have seen these before on differant humvees. My guess is it is an air conditioning condensor for the rear ac unit.

You got it right Gary, AC unit! And your questions are no trouble, just glad I can help out here and there.

very good close up of 1151 on prime portal....I just have mig 1114 so it will be a good subject for a future model...I've found an overall green camo(presume forest green)and yours three tone camo....any humvees in desert suite?!In my opinion they have late style cupola...the one in mig kit with some modifications and the rear part of hard to it wouldn't too difficult to realize....have you(Pete) photos of a 1151 with some armor kit mounted?!Is it operative in iraq now?!

Best regards

Ciro

Ciro,
There is an armor kit for the M1151/52's but I can't seem to find anything on it. Thats the main difference between the 1114 and th 1151, the 11151 has less armor than the 1114. I am pretty sure they are also painted in desert sand aslo.

Ciro, Pete--I believe the M1151s do come in desert sand. Somewhere on the Web I found a small picture of a sand-colored M1151 with the armor kit installed. It looked a lot like the M1114. The cupola is definitely similar to the M1114's cupola, too.

Pete--thanks for posting a photo of the back of your shield. It answered a lot of questions I had about the shield mount and the cupola armor. You don't see many pictures from that angle!

Gary--the AC unit (made by Red Dot, IIRC) seems to be very common in Iraq (or at least it was a couple of years ago. Does any one have good measurements and photos of it. I'm tempted to tackle it as my first scratchbuilding project ever, since it's small, fairly well defined, and would be a neat addition to any M1025.