NYC has nothing to do with the closing. It was the owner's choice. The family still will operate in Bethlehem, Pa. and Vegas, in addition to licensed products. Carnegie wasn't the be all-end all for sandwiches. We still have Katz's and 2nd Avenue Delis in Manhattan and a bunch of great kosher delis in Brooklyn and Queens. The natives know where to go. It's the interloping, playcationing foodie transplants from Flyoverlandia who will be up the creek without a paddle since an overwhelming majority don't know the city outside of Manhattan north of Union Square or Greenpoint-Williamsburg-Western Bushwick and won'travel to areas not serviced by the L train. I've stopped at Brothers Deli on S. 6th St. in Minneapolis. Good pastrami; but, the bread is super dry and not enough garlic in the pickles. [/quote] HEAR, HEAR!!! Even a simple stroll through Greenpoint's McCarren Park on a Summer's day can be a very pleasant and relaxing experience... One of my fondest memories of NYC & Brooklyn, (Yes, many of us Brooklynites STILL regard Brooklyn as a separate city from the other conglomeration of Boroughs), was that if you suddenly got an appetite, you could choose from up to AT LEAST a half-dozen different ethnic restaurants within a 4-block radius- An' I ain't tawkin' phony ones, eithuh! I'm tawkin' DA REAL DING, BABY!!! The TRANSPLANTS that open up these "New York City-style food emporiums" that Joe is referring to, HAVEN'T GOT A SINGLE CLUE of what REAL ethnic food is supposed to taste like; how can ANYTHING that is supposed to taste like a REAL Italian, German, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Chinese, or (insert ethnicity here), dinner, when the owner/operator's name is Smith, O'Connor, or Olsson..? It just doesn't work- Sorry, I much prefer the real thing... Dem uhdduh guys is just meah pvetenduhs..!

Joe your right on about Brothers deli in MN. Terrible sandwiches, Brothers Deli use to have 16 outlets in Mn, North Dakota. They had to sell all of them in the 80's. Then they later opened in downtown Mn. Dennis I agree 100 % about new york style pizza. There is no other choice! New york eatery's have always led usa in great food places.

Thank You, Phil! Then again, there are some damned FINE Swedish eating places in Minnesota, too! And some of the real "Mom & Pop"-diners and restaurants down in the Pennsylvania Dutch Country have some REEEALLY GREAT dishes on THEIR menus, too! Don't get me going on Texas or St.Louis B-B-Q, either! But still, and all, NYC is my favorite for an appetite!

There's too much finger pointing going on these days and ICM is contributing to it.

There's too much finger pointing going on these days and ICM is contributing to it.[/quote] Hey! We forgot Yonah Shimmel's down on the Lower East Side!!!

There's too much finger pointing going on these days and ICM is contributing to it.[/quote] Hey! We forgot Yonah Shimmel's down on the Lower East Side!!! [/quote] Nevah fuhgot about Yonah's! Whenever I go there, I'll buy a dozen different potato knishes and the same number of chocolate and cherry ones to throw into the freezer.

We don't have to many swedish restaurants But this is german country, If you ever get this way again, Here are the two best german eatery's in mn. Gasthof Zur Gemutlichkeit restrurant, and Kramarczuk's east european Deli. Wow just the best. Every time I go down to the twin city's it's a special treat to eat at these two places.

AH! KAMARCZUK!!! A 100% Ukrainian name, if there EVER was one! And Gasthof Zur Gemuetlichkeit!!! You can't get any more GERMAN than that!!! Ever tried "Schwartzwaelder Torte"? You're in for a real TREAT if you do; and "Kartoffelsalat"- there are about 87,000 different ways to make German "Potato-salad", each ONE more delicious than the last one!!! "Pflaumenkuchen!!! YUM!!! And, Joe! How many times can one "chow down" on the all different Polish "Kielbasa" or Polish Ham on Polish RYE?!?

There's too much finger pointing going on these days and ICM is contributing to it.[/quote] Hey! We forgot Yonah Shimmel's down on the Lower East Side!!! [/quote] Nevah fuhgot about Yonah's! Whenever I go there, I'll buy a dozen different potato knishes and the same number of chocolate and cherry ones to throw into the freezer.[/quote] OOOhhhhh... KNISHES! My taste buds and stomach are YOWLING for just one little bite- SCRATCH THAT! At least TWO Knishes!!!