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The thought counts, Jesper, the thought counts!
Any which way, it is appreciated.
Lewis
Thanks Lewis, a true seasons attitude
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Campaign Proposal: The Siegfreid Line
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 01:58 AM UTC
Thanks Lewis, a true seasons attitude
Lee-Enfield
Joined: February 25, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 07:23 AM UTC
Gentlepeople, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all!
endrju007
Joined: December 05, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 10:02 AM UTC
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Gentlepeople, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all!
Lewis,
Same to you and your family!
And to everyone who's reading it (Christmas is almost over here in Poland, but it's never to late to wish everyone all the best
).Andrzej
rcnpthfndr
Joined: February 15, 2006
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Posted: Friday, December 28, 2007 - 02:17 PM UTC
this site might help some of you guys. i dont know the language but it has helped with some questions i had.
http://www.fortiff.be/regelbau/index.php?p=32
http://www.fortiff.be/regelbau/index.php?p=32
endrju007
Joined: December 05, 2007
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Posted: Friday, December 28, 2007 - 09:40 PM UTC
Michael,
Thanks for this link - 3d visualisations are great (much more usefull when you're planning a diorama then just a blueprint - at least for me).
Andrzej
Thanks for this link - 3d visualisations are great (much more usefull when you're planning a diorama then just a blueprint - at least for me).
Andrzej
CaptainA
Joined: May 14, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:45 AM UTC
You people amaze me. All this planning on your upcoming campaigns. I am still trying to figure out what I did on the last campaign. 
steve-o
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:26 AM UTC
This is a great excuse to replicate a picture I have had for some time now!
It's the US 6th Cav. breaking through the Harlange Pocket in January, 1945. (I hope this will count!)
Does anyone know which is the best Chaffee in 1/35??
-Steve
It's the US 6th Cav. breaking through the Harlange Pocket in January, 1945. (I hope this will count!)
Does anyone know which is the best Chaffee in 1/35??
-Steve
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 07:51 PM UTC
Sounds like a good idea. For a M24 Chaffee the only game in town is the Italeri kit. I think there was some other kit made some years ago, but now I cannot remember.
Looking forward to see more when we get started with the campaign.
Looking forward to see more when we get started with the campaign.
Lee-Enfield
Joined: February 25, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 04:38 AM UTC
Carl, I can relate! That's okay, though... it's like I say at work... "If you're not confused, you obviously have no idea what's going on!"
Well, folks, several of my kits have just come in, thanks to the LHS! (Inserting gratuitous plug: ) They treat me right there... giving me discounts before the sales start and such... But I've probably turned into one of their better customers. (End gratuitous plug.)
So right now, I'm sitting on Italeri's 5cm Pak 38, Tamiya's 7.5cm Pak 40 (both with servants,) Tamiya's German Assault Troops (Infantry,) German Front Line Infantry, and US Army Infantrymen. I may add in a set of Trumpy's German infantrymen, also. And then, I'm still waiting on Tamiya's M4A3E8 105mm Sherman, which includes four infantrymen. I'll definitely include the US Army Assault Troops, which require a bit of a repaint, and a few figures out of another Tamiya set, namely a couple guys on a .30 cal, a bazooka team, a radio operator, and possibly a mortar team. And I haven't decided yet whether or not to add in the deuce and a half I've got sitting waiting... although it may be done as a casualty. (It's the old Revell kit that I've heard reports of being really bad, so it would be perfect to use as a casualty!) Oh, yeah... it's going to be a fairly big diorama... and busy!
You know the hard part about having all of this stuff sitting here? It's having to leave it alone for the next three weeks!
So, what's everybody else planning on, if you haven't already said?
That's okay, though... it's like I say at work... "If you're not confused, you obviously have no idea what's going on!"Well, folks, several of my kits have just come in, thanks to the LHS! (Inserting gratuitous plug: ) They treat me right there... giving me discounts before the sales start and such... But I've probably turned into one of their better customers. (End gratuitous plug.)
So right now, I'm sitting on Italeri's 5cm Pak 38, Tamiya's 7.5cm Pak 40 (both with servants,) Tamiya's German Assault Troops (Infantry,) German Front Line Infantry, and US Army Infantrymen. I may add in a set of Trumpy's German infantrymen, also. And then, I'm still waiting on Tamiya's M4A3E8 105mm Sherman, which includes four infantrymen. I'll definitely include the US Army Assault Troops, which require a bit of a repaint, and a few figures out of another Tamiya set, namely a couple guys on a .30 cal, a bazooka team, a radio operator, and possibly a mortar team. And I haven't decided yet whether or not to add in the deuce and a half I've got sitting waiting... although it may be done as a casualty. (It's the old Revell kit that I've heard reports of being really bad, so it would be perfect to use as a casualty!) Oh, yeah... it's going to be a fairly big diorama... and busy!
You know the hard part about having all of this stuff sitting here? It's having to leave it alone for the next three weeks!
So, what's everybody else planning on, if you haven't already said?
Blade48mrd
Joined: September 03, 2004
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 05:25 AM UTC
Lewis -
Still doing some research, planning, and adding of 'stuff' for the diorama. I've got the MIG Productions 'Panther Pillbox' that I'll be modifying somewhat and will have a supporting German machine gun trench. This will be receiving an attack from the rear by US troops from Dragon, kind of a "kicking in the back door" approach that US used. Also lewis, I have the Dragon 7.5cm PaK40 (Heer) kit that I'd be more than glad to donate as it's much better than Tamiya's older kit. If you're interested, just send me a PM.
Mike
Still doing some research, planning, and adding of 'stuff' for the diorama. I've got the MIG Productions 'Panther Pillbox' that I'll be modifying somewhat and will have a supporting German machine gun trench. This will be receiving an attack from the rear by US troops from Dragon, kind of a "kicking in the back door" approach that US used. Also lewis, I have the Dragon 7.5cm PaK40 (Heer) kit that I'd be more than glad to donate as it's much better than Tamiya's older kit. If you're interested, just send me a PM.
Mike
Lee-Enfield
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 09:15 AM UTC
That would be too cool, Mike... especially since the Dragon is the one I originally wanted!
But alas, my LHS is at least temporarily unable to get Dragon kits. His supplier went out of business, and he has been unable to find a new supplier that is satisfactory. I do confess to preferring to support the LHS, since as I stated earlier, they treat me right. The prices on the kits I ordered was, in truth, comparable to what I've seen on the net, and that's before you figure S&H.
Anyhow, Mike, I love your idea... and it's actually kind of the opposite of what I want to do for mine... on mine, they're hoping to kick in the back door, but it gets screwed up. But that never happens in combat. Ever.
But alas, my LHS is at least temporarily unable to get Dragon kits. His supplier went out of business, and he has been unable to find a new supplier that is satisfactory.
I do confess to preferring to support the LHS, since as I stated earlier, they treat me right. The prices on the kits I ordered was, in truth, comparable to what I've seen on the net, and that's before you figure S&H.Anyhow, Mike, I love your idea... and it's actually kind of the opposite of what I want to do for mine... on mine, they're hoping to kick in the back door, but it gets screwed up. But that never happens in combat. Ever.
endrju007
Joined: December 05, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 09:04 PM UTC
Hi,
As I've written before I'm planning to rebuild one of my first models (which I've totally ruined then
) - Tamiya King Tiger from Ardennes counteroffensive with commander, loader and messenger on a motorcycle. Now, after some time of practice 
I think I can make it look a little better... I'm also planning a small winter diorama:
--------------------------------------------
--------------------------------tree------|
----------K I-----------------------------|
---------------N G T I G---------------|
-------------------------------E R--------|
----------------bike----------------------|
-------------------------------------------- - you have the idea.
Guy on a bike will give some message to the tank commander.
This will not be a big diorama (just big enough to put this Panzer on it.
Andrzej
As I've written before I'm planning to rebuild one of my first models (which I've totally ruined then
) - Tamiya King Tiger from Ardennes counteroffensive with commander, loader and messenger on a motorcycle. Now, after some time of practice I think I can make it look a little better... I'm also planning a small winter diorama:--------------------------------------------
--------------------------------tree------|
----------K I-----------------------------|
---------------N G T I G---------------|
-------------------------------E R--------|
----------------bike----------------------|
-------------------------------------------- - you have the idea
.Guy on a bike will give some message to the tank commander.
This will not be a big diorama (just big enough to put this Panzer on it
.Andrzej
Jamesite
Joined: December 05, 2006
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Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 - 02:57 AM UTC
Hey guys,
After reading through this thread and looking through my stash I am seriously considering getting on the bandwagon for this campaign. I have an old Mirage bunker that I could breathe some life into along with Tamiya's US assult infantry set, a small but interesting dio methinks! However, I have a lot on my plate at the minute so don't want to commit totaly just yet!
In the meantime here's a pic of a dio I finished a while back that may provide some inspiration for you guys:
more pics can be seen HERE
Hope to join you soon!
James
After reading through this thread and looking through my stash I am seriously considering getting on the bandwagon for this campaign. I have an old Mirage bunker that I could breathe some life into along with Tamiya's US assult infantry set, a small but interesting dio methinks! However, I have a lot on my plate at the minute so don't want to commit totaly just yet!
In the meantime here's a pic of a dio I finished a while back that may provide some inspiration for you guys:
more pics can be seen HERE
Hope to join you soon!
James
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:11 PM UTC
James, hope you join us later for this campaign.
I have several dioramas up my sleeve.
One is a 88mm concrete position. I am planning to use the Dragon 88mm with crew. This would fit well into the time of year as the crew is wearing winter uniforms. I still need to buy the Dragon 88mm with crew. I have a vacformed position to base my diorama on.
The other diorama will be based on the Mirage "Stalin line" vacformed diorama. I will use the vacformed plate, but change the tank turrets to captured French tank turrets. I do not know if the Germans used French turrets on the Siegfried line, but they used them in Normandy, so they might have used some on the Siegfried line as well.
Pictures will follow later.
I have several dioramas up my sleeve.
One is a 88mm concrete position. I am planning to use the Dragon 88mm with crew. This would fit well into the time of year as the crew is wearing winter uniforms. I still need to buy the Dragon 88mm with crew. I have a vacformed position to base my diorama on.
The other diorama will be based on the Mirage "Stalin line" vacformed diorama. I will use the vacformed plate, but change the tank turrets to captured French tank turrets. I do not know if the Germans used French turrets on the Siegfried line, but they used them in Normandy, so they might have used some on the Siegfried line as well.
Pictures will follow later.
Lee-Enfield
Joined: February 25, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 04:55 PM UTC
James, we'll be glad to have you in with us when you're able to, man. 
I love the dio you did... I can completely envision that Shermie crashing down as it comes over the top of that turret, and the men diving for cover... It is, as you hoped, inspirational.
Jesper, multi-entries? Dude, I'm jealous! But then... I have to confess... I'm spending a small fortune on kits and odds'n'ends for scratching to do a pretty skookum dio. Thank God for bonuses at work! And a little moonlighting... 
Now, with the 88... I assume you're meaning a Flak 88? That could be really cool... a totally different take on this than what I was expecting, but, of course! And I do confess, I'm kind of curious to see what sort of takes we'll get on the turret bunkers, too.
Folks, speaking strictly for myself, I'm seeing some seriously cool ideas springing up from my suggestion, and aside from the modelling (of course,) that by itself has been rewarding. Thank you all for joining, and for all of your ideas! I'm looking forwards to seeing how they all turn out.
Lewis
I love the dio you did... I can completely envision that Shermie crashing down as it comes over the top of that turret, and the men diving for cover... It is, as you hoped, inspirational.Jesper, multi-entries? Dude, I'm jealous!
But then... I have to confess... I'm spending a small fortune on kits and odds'n'ends for scratching to do a pretty skookum dio. Thank God for bonuses at work! And a little moonlighting... Now, with the 88... I assume you're meaning a Flak 88? That could be really cool... a totally different take on this than what I was expecting, but, of course! And I do confess, I'm kind of curious to see what sort of takes we'll get on the turret bunkers, too.Folks, speaking strictly for myself, I'm seeing some seriously cool ideas springing up from my suggestion, and aside from the modelling (of course,) that by itself has been rewarding. Thank you all for joining, and for all of your ideas! I'm looking forwards to seeing how they all turn out.
Lewis
Jamesite
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 10:33 PM UTC
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The other diorama will be based on the Mirage "Stalin line" vacformed diorama. I will use the vacformed plate, but change the tank turrets to captured French tank turrets. I do not know if the Germans used French turrets on the Siegfried line, but they used them in Normandy, so they might have used some on the Siegfried line as well.
Very interesting, I have this same diorama Jesper and have been wondering what to use it for for some time now, perhaps I could incorporate mine into a dio for this campaign. That is if you don't mind me stealing your idea!
The point however, is that I now have two different ideas for this campaign, and while i'll only build one, it means that i've sold myself into enlisting for the campaign, so count me in folks!
James
P.S. Does anyone know a company that does early war tank turrets (just the turret) that I could use in either of my diorama's? Hopefully not to pricey either!
British, French, or German turrets would all be applicable I presume.
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:10 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextThe other diorama will be based on the Mirage "Stalin line" vacformed diorama. I will use the vacformed plate, but change the tank turrets to captured French tank turrets. I do not know if the Germans used French turrets on the Siegfried line, but they used them in Normandy, so they might have used some on the Siegfried line as well.
Very interesting, I have this same diorama Jesper and have been wondering what to use it for for some time now, perhaps I could incorporate mine into a dio for this campaign. That is if you don't mind me stealing your idea!
James
Go ahead, James
It could be interesting to see how it all fits together and compare the dioramas afterwards. Lee-Enfield
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2008 - 01:38 PM UTC
Welcome, James, glad to have you! And so you know, and anyone else out there who is wondering... multiple entries are definitely welcome!
And to answer your question about turrets, I think Verlinden does some turret-only sets, and I know there's quite a few others that I can't recall. Perhaps posting the question in the armor/afv section will get you more answers...
Lewis
And to answer your question about turrets, I think Verlinden does some turret-only sets, and I know there's quite a few others that I can't recall. Perhaps posting the question in the armor/afv section will get you more answers...
Lewis
wombatq
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 03:09 AM UTC
Just signed on.
My thoughts are of doing a scene set in spring '45 where some Brit troopers are passing by the debris left in the Oosterbeek-Arnhem area from Market-Garden. A shredded jeep, maybe a 6pdr destroyed and sunk into the mud. Maybe part of a Horsa.
Marc
My thoughts are of doing a scene set in spring '45 where some Brit troopers are passing by the debris left in the Oosterbeek-Arnhem area from Market-Garden. A shredded jeep, maybe a 6pdr destroyed and sunk into the mud. Maybe part of a Horsa.
Marc
Jamesite
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 03:32 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextThe other diorama will be based on the Mirage "Stalin line" vacformed diorama. I will use the vacformed plate, but change the tank turrets to captured French tank turrets. I do not know if the Germans used French turrets on the Siegfried line, but they used them in Normandy, so they might have used some on the Siegfried line as well.
Very interesting, I have this same diorama Jesper and have been wondering what to use it for for some time now, perhaps I could incorporate mine into a dio for this campaign. That is if you don't mind me stealing your idea!
James
Go ahead, James
Thanks Jesper, I've had the idea now of combining both ideas and dios and so think they may end up quite different from one another, have begun ordering some bits and bobs and am quite excited about the idea!
Quoted Text
Welcome, James, glad to have you! And so you know, and anyone else out there who is wondering... multiple entries are definitely welcome!
And to answer your question about turrets, I think Verlinden does some turret-only sets, and I know there's quite a few others that I can't recall. Perhaps posting the question in the armor/afv section will get you more answers...
Lewis
Thanks Lewis, glad to be onboard! I have done a fair bit of searching and have already ordered a Panzer 1 turret only set for my dio. I think I may use another turret from a Pz. kpfw. III kit that i'll be using for a SU-76i conversion. While I don't have evidence of these being used in the seigfreid line, both were outdated at the time and I know of them being used on the atlantic wall and in Italy. I have just ordered Neil Short's book on tank turret fortifications so i'll do some research when that arrives.
Enjoy the planning stages guys, I know I do!
James
Lee-Enfield
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 01:45 PM UTC
Marc, welcome! I like your idea... I won't speak for everyone, but I know I haven't seen a whole pile of battle-damaged vehicles through here. I'm looking forwards to seeing it.
James, Harv has done some researching on this for us, and found that yes, indeed, there were turret bunkers/pillboxes used on the Line. Some of his posts earlier in this thread shows pictures of some of them, and I believe he posted links to a some pictures, as well.
Gentlepeople, two weeks and one day until we start building... I'm looking forwards to it!
Lewis
James, Harv has done some researching on this for us, and found that yes, indeed, there were turret bunkers/pillboxes used on the Line. Some of his posts earlier in this thread shows pictures of some of them, and I believe he posted links to a some pictures, as well.
Gentlepeople, two weeks and one day until we start building... I'm looking forwards to it!
Lewis
SGTJKJ
#041
Joined: July 20, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 02:32 AM UTC
Here are some of the kits I have lined up for this campaign for my 88mm stellung and some bunker positions.
The Russian gun turrets will be exchanged for French tank turrets. I will buy Dragons 88mm with crew to put in the concrete emplacement.
The Russian gun turrets will be exchanged for French tank turrets. I will buy Dragons 88mm with crew to put in the concrete emplacement.
Jamesite
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 05:13 AM UTC
Nice Jesper, do you plan to combine the two into one dio?
That is the same Lina Stalina kit that i'll be using, however, i'll go for early war german turrets and am altering the base to include my Mirage bunker - should be interesting to see both of our finished products, I imagine they will differ greatly as you first suggested.
Am looking forward to this project, it's a decision first though as to whether I start this or the idea experiments campaign first, hmmm.......
James
That is the same Lina Stalina kit that i'll be using, however, i'll go for early war german turrets and am altering the base to include my Mirage bunker - should be interesting to see both of our finished products, I imagine they will differ greatly as you first suggested.
Am looking forward to this project, it's a decision first though as to whether I start this or the idea experiments campaign first, hmmm.......
James
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2008 - 10:18 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Nice Jesper, do you plan to combine the two into one dio?
That is the same Lina Stalina kit that i'll be using, however, i'll go for early war german turrets and am altering the base to include my Mirage bunker
James
I will make two different dioramas. I do not know if I will make both for this campaign, but I think I will.
How is the Mirage bunker? I was thinking of buying that one for my stash. Is it injection or vacformed? Good details? Maybe I/we could see some pictures
Lee-Enfield
Joined: February 25, 2007
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:36 PM UTC
The kit collection so far:
US kits
I just have to replace the truck with the following, since the M34 didn't come into use until the 50's:
And I'm still waiting for my M4A3E8 to show up... but no panic, though. The question here with these kits is, do I destroy the Jeep, seeing as how it's not a great representation, anyway? Or do I kill the truck? Hmmm...
German kits
The railcar kit, I bought mainly for the crew, but I think I'll cannibalize some parts of it for other things in the campaign.... 
And I do believe that I'll be replacing the PaK 40 with a Dragon version that is being very generously donated by one of our members! (My LHS can't get Dragon kits right now...)
Yep... I'm gonna be busy!
Lewis
US kits
I just have to replace the truck with the following, since the M34 didn't come into use until the 50's:
And I'm still waiting for my M4A3E8 to show up... but no panic, though. The question here with these kits is, do I destroy the Jeep, seeing as how it's not a great representation, anyway? Or do I kill the truck? Hmmm...
German kits
The railcar kit, I bought mainly for the crew, but I think I'll cannibalize some parts of it for other things in the campaign....
And I do believe that I'll be replacing the PaK 40 with a Dragon version that is being very generously donated by one of our members! (My LHS can't get Dragon kits right now...)Yep... I'm gonna be busy!
Lewis
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