Yes I think upgraded armor would be a good idea as would the M151 RWS
Paul
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ppawlak1
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 07:40 AM UTC
Thanks Lars.
Yes I think upgraded armor would be a good idea as would the M151 RWS
Paul
Yes I think upgraded armor would be a good idea as would the M151 RWS
Paul
ppawlak1
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 10:28 AM UTC
I've ordered the top decal set above (MAD606) from Mouse House
However It doesn't seem to have white chevron's as in the top Leo 1 photo above. ie: "22' called "Bundeburg" (that'll be a cool one to do I think).
Any ideas where I can get a set of these chevrons please ?
Cheers
Paul
However It doesn't seem to have white chevron's as in the top Leo 1 photo above. ie: "22' called "Bundeburg" (that'll be a cool one to do I think).
Any ideas where I can get a set of these chevrons please ?
Cheers
Paul
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 01:19 PM UTC
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Any ideas where I can get a set of these chevrons please ?
Just mask off the chevrons and paint them on.....even better than decals.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 01:25 PM UTC
Just like the Leopard AS1........an Australian Leopard 2AS6 should be able to mount.......
-mine plow
-mine rollers
-dozer blade
There may not be a reason to swap out the MG3....the AS1 retained them.
How about a transparent gun shield for the loader's machine gun?
Anti-IED equipment fitted to the front fenders like on the Challenger 2s in Iraq wouls also be useful on deployments.
-mine plow
-mine rollers
-dozer blade
There may not be a reason to swap out the MG3....the AS1 retained them.
How about a transparent gun shield for the loader's machine gun?
Anti-IED equipment fitted to the front fenders like on the Challenger 2s in Iraq wouls also be useful on deployments.
ppawlak1
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 02:31 PM UTC
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Just like the Leopard AS1........an Australian Leopard 2AS6 should be able to mount.......
-mine plow
-mine rollers
-dozer blade
There may not be a reason to swap out the MG3....the AS1 retained them.
How about a transparent gun shield for the loader's machine gun?
Anti-IED equipment fitted to the front fenders like on the Challenger 2s in Iraq wouls also be useful on deployments.
Thanks Jason.
I'll use a stencill for the Chevron's & I'll add the above to the 'wish list'.
I'll need to think about attachment points for the plow etc to the front of the vehicle.
Cheers
Paul
ppawlak1
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 05:01 PM UTC
A good Camo scheme (Old Leo colors):
http://www.armouredacorn.com/Refs-%20Thumbprints%20&%20Images/Camouflage%20Patterns/Austrailian/Leo%20AS1-3-tone%20(updated).pdf
Thanks to John from Mouse House for the tip !!
Paul
http://www.armouredacorn.com/Refs-%20Thumbprints%20&%20Images/Camouflage%20Patterns/Austrailian/Leo%20AS1-3-tone%20(updated).pdf
Thanks to John from Mouse House for the tip !!
Paul
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 - 06:58 PM UTC
Jason does the Leopard 2A6 / 2A6M have an Infantry phone somewhere ?
if so where is it ?
What about plow / dozer blade attachments, does anyone you know do them ? For the Leopard 1 if not the 2 ?
Cheers
Paul
if so where is it ?
What about plow / dozer blade attachments, does anyone you know do them ? For the Leopard 1 if not the 2 ?
Cheers
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 12:24 AM UTC
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Jason does the Leopard 2A6 / 2A6M have an Infantry phone somewhere ?
if so where is it ?
What about plow / dozer blade attachments, does anyone you know do them ? For the Leopard 1 if not the 2 ?
Cheers
Paul
Hay paul i think the Leo 2 PSO (peace support ops) has a phone mounted on the rear of the hull i will try and find some pics later when i get home?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 12:47 AM UTC
You've been noticed by the What If forums
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21953.0/topicseen.html
You'd be more than welcomed and encouraged over there
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21953.0/topicseen.html
You'd be more than welcomed and encouraged over there
Sudzonic
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 03:03 AM UTC
ppawlak1
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You've been noticed by the What If forums
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21953.0/topicseen.html
You'd be more than welcomed and encouraged over there
Cheers Neil !
I'll 'pop on over' later today to say Hi
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 06:51 AM UTC
G'day Scotty !
Great find from you. That is Brilliant !
I've seen the real tanks photo from memory somewhere. You've got to love that 'dozer blade' !
I'll have to join up to get a look at some larger pictures and some details
Thanks mate. Also looking forward to those phone box pics.
Cheers
Paul
Great find from you. That is Brilliant !
I've seen the real tanks photo from memory somewhere. You've got to love that 'dozer blade' !
I'll have to join up to get a look at some larger pictures and some details
Thanks mate. Also looking forward to those phone box pics.
Cheers
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 08:04 AM UTC
Sudzonic
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 08:54 AM UTC
Hay Paul think i mite have imagined seeing that phone box on the PSO? cant find an image of it anywhere ? 
I did find these pics with have some good shots of the dozer blade assembly.
linkname http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7019/leopard2pso2835695020065125344.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.powercorea.com/zboard/zboard.php%3Fid%3DReview%26page%3D1%26sn1%3D%26divpage%3D4%26category%3D10%26sn%3Doff%26ss%3Don%26sc%3Don%26select_arrange%3Dname%26desc%3Ddesc%26no%3D19509&h=853&w=1280&sz=432&hl=en&start=39&um=1&usg=__OmHquH5yamBUmGubtjQXC3FRnbo=&tbnid=vMJiRgENN0bpzM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleopard%2B2%2Bpso%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DKUK_en-GBGB213GB213%26sa%3DN
I did find these pics with have some good shots of the dozer blade assembly.
linkname http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7019/leopard2pso2835695020065125344.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.powercorea.com/zboard/zboard.php%3Fid%3DReview%26page%3D1%26sn1%3D%26divpage%3D4%26category%3D10%26sn%3Doff%26ss%3Don%26sc%3Don%26select_arrange%3Dname%26desc%3Ddesc%26no%3D19509&h=853&w=1280&sz=432&hl=en&start=39&um=1&usg=__OmHquH5yamBUmGubtjQXC3FRnbo=&tbnid=vMJiRgENN0bpzM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleopard%2B2%2Bpso%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DKUK_en-GBGB213GB213%26sa%3DN
ppawlak1
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 09:00 AM UTC
That PSO is Waaaaay Cool Scott !!
I wonder what RWS it is using. Also that additional Turret armor is something different isn't it ?
I think my best option would be to try to 'kit bash' the Mouse House Leopard 1 blade onto the Leo 2 Hull. This may need some scratch work and and bit of modification.
Jason did a review of that kit (MA119) a while ago.
I think this whole 'project' will have a lot of resin in it
Paul
I wonder what RWS it is using. Also that additional Turret armor is something different isn't it ?
I think my best option would be to try to 'kit bash' the Mouse House Leopard 1 blade onto the Leo 2 Hull. This may need some scratch work and and bit of modification.
Jason did a review of that kit (MA119) a while ago.
I think this whole 'project' will have a lot of resin in it
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 09:07 AM UTC
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That PSO is Waaaaay Cool Scott !!
I wonder what RWS it is using. Also that additional Turret armor is something different isn't it ?
I think my best option would be to try to 'kit bash' the Mouse House Leopard 1 blade onto the Leo 2 Hull. This may need some scratch work and and bit of modification.
Jason did a review of that kit (MA119) a while ago.
I think this whole 'project' will have a lot of resin in it
Paul
Found this its in spanish but there are some more pics that will give you an idea of the upgrades on the PSO. I think the RWS is speicaly deveolped for the PSO but icould be wrong on that one?
linkname http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.subirimagenes.com/phpbb/previo/thump_400669Leopard2-PSO-01.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.fotosmilitares.org/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D1453&h=200&w=249&sz=21&hl=en&start=89&um=1&usg=__tdvUFEC2OD9jPBcGndSlw8B9xkQ=&tbnid=zwPPy1rggL_blM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleopard%2B2%2Bpso%26start%3D80%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DKUK_en-GBGB213GB213%26sa%3DN
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ppawlak1
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 09:16 AM UTC
Is that the coolest AFV you've ever seen ?
Thanks Scotty.
Imagine that with a few of the other mod's I've mentioned as well as Aussie Camo in the link I've posted and that would be the 'neatest' tank ever
Paul
Thanks Scotty.
Imagine that with a few of the other mod's I've mentioned as well as Aussie Camo in the link I've posted and that would be the 'neatest' tank ever
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 01:41 PM UTC
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Jason does the Leopard 2A6 / 2A6M have an Infantry phone somewhere ?
if so where is it ?
What about plow / dozer blade attachments, does anyone you know do them ? For the Leopard 1 if not the 2 ?
No tank/Infantry phone that I know of on the Leopard 2.......it was designed to fight tanks.....and not be a multi-role MBT like the Leopard 1.
There are no aftermarket plows or rollers for the Leopard 1 or 2.........it is too bad there isn't one yet.
One a side note........when the modifications begin to the other Canadian Leopard 2s they will have fittings for modified plows and rollers.......but not anytime soon.....maybe around 2011?
WIth some work and patience the Abrams rollers and mine plows could probably be adapted to the Leopard 2 hull....no one can say it wouldn't be accurate as it is a "what if" project.
ppawlak1
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 01:53 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextJason does the Leopard 2A6 / 2A6M have an Infantry phone somewhere ?
if so where is it ?
What about plow / dozer blade attachments, does anyone you know do them ? For the Leopard 1 if not the 2 ?
No tank/Infantry phone that I know of on the Leopard 2.......it was designed to fight tanks.....and not be a multi-role MBT like the Leopard 1.
There are no aftermarket plows or rollers for the Leopard 1 or 2.........it is too bad there isn't one yet.
One a side note........when the modifications begin to the other Canadian Leopard 2s they will have fittings for modified plows and rollers.......but not anytime soon.....maybe around 2011?
WIth some work and patience the Abrams rollers and mine plows could probably be adapted to the Leopard 2 hull....no one can say it wouldn't be accurate as it is a "what if" project.
Thanks Jason.
How about the Mouse house Dozer blade on the Tamiya Leopard 2 ?
How much work do you think would be involved in fitting that ?
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 02:01 PM UTC
I am not sure how much work it would take...........probably have to redesign the hull mounting plate to fit the front hull angles of the Leopard 2.
It would be a matter of test fitting it and modifying it from there........but as the dozer blade is meant for the Leopard 1 it would not be as wide as it should be for the wider Leopard 2 hull.
A dozer blade for a Challenger 2 might be a better start for the size of the blade?
It would be a matter of test fitting it and modifying it from there........but as the dozer blade is meant for the Leopard 1 it would not be as wide as it should be for the wider Leopard 2 hull.
A dozer blade for a Challenger 2 might be a better start for the size of the blade?
ppawlak1
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 02:05 PM UTC
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I am not sure how much work it would take...........probably have to redesign the hull mounting plate to fit the front hull angles of the Leopard 2.
It would be a matter of test fitting it and modifying it from there........but as the dozer blade is meant for the Leopard 1 it would not be as wide as it should be for the wider Leopard 2 hull.
A dozer blade for a Challenger 2 might be a better start for the size of the blade?
It may be cheaper to get the Kosovo Challenger kit from Trumpeter and use the Dozer blade from that.......
Thoughts everyone ?
Probably easier to mod too, and like you say Jason width would be more appropriate !
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 02:44 PM UTC
You can get a Challenger 2 dozer blade from Accurate Armour.
ppawlak1
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 02:45 PM UTC
Here is the Trumpeter kit with the Dozer Blade:
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr00323-45.htm
PMMS Review.
Paul
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr00323-45.htm
PMMS Review.
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 02:55 PM UTC
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You can get a Challenger 2 dozer blade from Accurate Armour.
The Trumpeter Kosovo Kit (with a Tank thrown in) is $20 locally
, I wonder what the difference is.... 
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