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What if Campaign?
blackbug67
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 12:42 PM UTC

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I have been noticing a lot of interest in "what if" subjects here and feel it may be a good idea to get everyone organized together in a campaign encompassing these subjects.

This campaign would welcome everything theoretically possible from conversions to paper panzers to war walkers. Unlike my other campaigns this one is going to focus solely on ground forces.

I know that most people will be focused on WWII subjects, but this campaign will not put any limitations on time periods including post-apocalyptic. Any questions please post them, I want to hear what you guys have to say



I really enjoyed the last "What If" campaign and will be happy to do it again.

Regards,
Larry
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 02:34 AM UTC
Excellent, glad to have you with us Larry!
Whiskey_1
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 12:34 PM UTC
I finally got around to making a sketch for my dio. Let me know what you think.


Also have an extension to the backstory. It includes a bit about the holocaust since I felt I could not ignore that gruesome piece of history when constructing a framework for myself. If anyone thinks it unwise to post it here, let me know. You'll have some time to mill it over before I put it up here.
zontar
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 06:15 PM UTC
Benjamin: looks like a good concept. Should be a fun building to do as well.

Happy Modelling, -zon
Empire95
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 06:24 PM UTC
Nice concept indeed!
I've already started another build xD
Sd.Kfz. 979 Pz.Kpfw. XI Ausf. S6 'Leopard' :







Build in progress xD
My third airbrushed tank
1st : Sturmtiger 1:35
2nd : Panzer II 1:76
3th. The "leo"
ppawlak1
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 06:29 PM UTC
I'm in with an Aussie Leopard 2A4
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 02:53 AM UTC
Jeremy,

count me in! Won't be able to start right away - campaign overload, LOL. Joined last 'What If' and didn't finish painting my build for that one but will build a German 'E' series vehicle for this one and finish painting my build for the last one here, if that's OK?

-Eddy
Nito74
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 03:10 AM UTC
I'm in with a E series, but I might change the gun. I did a E-10 with a russian 152mm gun that fitted perfectly.

Might try an E-50 with some kind of slat armour, zimmerit or even some ERA blocks or Blazer style, It would be fun.. in an urban camo of course.

I'll have to clear my bench first...

Great Campaign !
vonHengest
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 07:41 AM UTC
Benjamin: I like the layout for the diorama! Feel free to pm me the rest of your story if you feel it is not appropriate to post here.

Bas: That's awesome, but not sure what you are saying exactly?

Eddy: Sure thing, you're more than welcome to finish your build from the last campaign in addition to your build for this campaign. They will both go up in the feature at the end of the campaign

John: Sounds like some sweet stuff, would like to see the E-10 with the 152mm!
Neo
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 09:57 AM UTC
Everyone,


Some great stuff here, this going to be a very interesting campaign.

Here's a few images & a video of mine:





http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e253/armoramaneo/What%20If%20Camp%20-%20BMP/?action=view¤t=BMP.mp4


Tom
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 02:05 AM UTC
Guys,will a Panther Aus.F work?I don't think it made it to the field before the end of WWII .If it had ,maybe things would be different now.......................?
Whiskey_1
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:04 AM UTC
jtucker: An Ausf. F will work perfectly. It never made the battlefield. Whether things would be different is up to you

TJ: that looks very interesting. Though I think the mounts for your hover system might be a bit more chunky than the images suggest.



If anyone is up for a novel with lots of cheesy deaths, here's my tidied up backstory:

On January 18th, Adolf Hitler is diagnosed with pneumonia after a visit eight days earlier to the troops who had successfully reached the port of Antwerp in a coup-de-main. Twelve days later, on January 30th , Reichsführer Adolf Hitler was found dead in his bed. Officially he died of pneumonia, but rumors abound that the true cause of death was poisoning. Some have even suggested that a form of biological warfare was responsible.
The Western Allies did not leave this chance lying. In quick succession, Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels, Hermann Göring and Josef Diettrich were assassinated by strike teams of both the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Special Operations Executive (SOE). It was hoped that by eliminating the most prominent candidates for the post of Reichskansler there would be a power vacuum, which in turn would lead to the collapse of Nazi Germany. It proved not to be so.
In March 1945 Albert Speer takes the position of Reichskansler and, with backing of two-thirds of the Wehrmacht staff, initiated talks with the Western Allies to reach a ceasefire agreement. The Western Allies, in a bid to end the war as soon as possible, opened negotiations. A consequence of this was that the Soviet-Union became ever more abrasive about the ease with which the penitence of Germany was accepted. When Germany was granted Austria, the Sudetenland and a significant amount of Poland to become part of a new ˝Greater Germany˝, the Soviet Union broke off all relations with the Western Allies. In a direct response to what it considered to be ˝The Great Capitalist Treason˝, the USSR formed an alliance with the Baltic States, Romania and Bulgaria in the symbolic city of Stalingrad on June 24th, 1945. Dubbed the ˝Stalingrad Alliance of Socialist Republics in Defense of the Global Revolution of the Working Class˝ (Stalingrad Alliance in short), its main aim was to form a broad defensive line to protect the Russian heartland, but its language became increasingly aggressive and the factories kept turning out weapons of war.

These events led to the establishing of a Coalition of United Free Nations on September 11th, 1945. Its main aim was the protection of all peoples in Central- and Eastern-Europe. This was later to evolve into a cordon sanitaire policy with the nations involved effectively becoming autonomous regions, governed by the Coalition of United Free Nations.
Because of its position on the frontline, it was decided that Greater Germany would be exempt from reparations payments. Speer used this position to his advantage: Whatever was left of the Heer and Waffen SS was remolded as best as possible to resemble what it was before and with financial and material report the infrastructure was rebuilt.

However, political matters were not at the forefront of attention to the European citizen. On April 1st 1946, patrol units of both the Stalingrad Alliance and the CUFN clashed near the city of Krakow. Although the skirmish itself might eventually have been glossed over by diplomacy, the fact that the troops from the Stalingrad Alliance called in light artillery support would leave a more lasting mark. For reasons unclear (inexperience or poor performance under stress are assumed) the artillery overshot its target and destroyed part of a border post as well as a small farming community. Shortly after, American P47 Thunderbolts destroyed four border posts in retaliation. It was not long before clashes erupted along the length of the border and both factions were mobilizing forces. By April 14th the seeds of mistrust had come to germination and a state of war was officially declared, despite last-ditch diplomatic efforts. The Demarcation Conflict (known in the streets as World War III) lasted for thirteen blood-soaked years and saw the use of nuclear cannons on a limited scale, thus ensuring that the impact would be felt for generations to come. Officially there existed only a tense cease-fire agreement from 1959 on. The state of war was not lifted until four decades later, in 2000. This had major consequences for the rebuilding of economies, which had to remain geared to military production on a massive scale until the 90´s. The world was bled white by war for the bigger part of the 20th century and since the cease-fire included a return to prewar positions, the only thing gained by both sides were patches of irradiated soil.

In the autumn of 1947 the Coalition of United Free Nations launched an assault on the city of Warsaw and the area surrounding it. Codenamed ˝Outlaw˝, the operation was one of many envisioned to help establish a favorable defensive line for the winter of 1947-48. Tasked with securing the northern outskirts of the town were elements of the former Brigade Feldherrnhalle. Its depleted ranks were filled with a mix of convalescent veterans and mediocrely trained recruits, but it was not enough to bring it up to its full complement, with strength returns indicating that roughly 65% of the division was available. Of these, about 55% was sufficiently armed. The division was found lacking in heavy weapons and artillery support, but received a lot of new AFVs. Most notable among these deliveries were the new Sd.Kfz. 285/2 E10 ausf. B and Sd.Kfz. 284 E25 ausf. A, of which much was expected. In order to supply an adequate amount of infantry for operations, 5. Fallschirmjäger Regiment was organically attached. This more or less thrown together mix of Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe troops formed what would become known as Kampfgruppe Feldherrnhalle. On October 3rd, 1947, Kampfgruppe Feldherrnhalle –deemed to be as unfit for a full-scale assault as it had been at the signing of the 1945 ceasefire – began its assault on the northern districts of the city of Warsaw.
centurionmkv
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:41 AM UTC
Hi All,

I have been lurking in Armorama for a while, but this campaign got my interest. As such, I am actually pretty new to posting my stuff on this forum. javascript:PasteSmiley(':-H')

Count me in please. Just recently bought a spare Trumpeter E-50 flak tank and this fits in the theme perfectly.

My topic will be on building a "realistic" E-50 (true weight 65 tons).

Cheers!
Y.C. Wang
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 01:50 PM UTC

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Guys,will a Panther Aus.F work?I don't think it made it to the field before the end of WWII .If it had ,maybe things would be different now.......................?



Absolutely!

Tom: That's going to be way cool! Are you sure you want to go with a green camo scheme for urban fighting?

Benjamin: Great continuation of your backstory!

Y.C.: Great choice, and welcome to the campaign!
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:07 AM UTC
A little less than three weeks until the campaign starts, hope you early birds are getting your final supplies gathered up

As for myself, I think I am going to try my hands at 1/48 dio featuring a Tamiya Jagdtiger and a Dust Models Jagdluther. Will pick up some AM for the Jagdtiger as well as a few figures for the vehicles and maybe some ground troops. I'm debating whether I want this to be an urban or forest dio, and whether or not I want it to be Winter or Fall. So many choices....
generalzod
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:30 AM UTC

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A little less than three weeks until the campaign starts, hope you early birds are getting your final supplies gathered up

As for myself, I think I am going to try my hands at 1/48 dio featuring a Tamiya Jagdtiger and a Dust Models Jagdluther. Will pick up some AM for the Jagdtiger as well as a few figures for the vehicles and maybe some ground troops. I'm debating whether I want this to be an urban or forest dio, and whether or not I want it to be Winter or Fall. So many choices....



Jagdluther. *drools*

I may end up changing my entry.That Tamiya Israeli M1-the ex M4A1E8 Sherman coming out? It screams to have a 90mm Turret from a spare DML M46 on it.
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:37 AM UTC
LOL, and that sounds like a cool idea! If I'm not mistaken, I remember there being a post somwhere in the forums on here about something like that?
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:48 AM UTC

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LOL, and that sounds like a cool idea! If I'm not mistaken, I remember there being a post somwhere in the forums on here about something like that?



Yeah.It was announced maybe a week or so ago. I have a spare MP Models M50.It has the parts.,I think,for a diesel engine version.I will try to make mine into a diesel version.

Diesel forever.
Whiskey_1
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:59 AM UTC
Chad: that sounds cool. You may want to keep a back-up plan though. It usually takes a while for Tamiya to put releases on the market.

I've been checking my E-10 so far. Most of the trouble is light damage and mediocre finishing that can be fixed with a little TLC. Just to warm up I tried building a PE toolclamp recently. Two and a half hours later it was finished (after two others had tweezer-launched). Of course, that's when Murphy tells you to check the plans and you find out that the way you built them is wrong . I also ran through the figs I have collected so far. The Pegaso one is pretty decent, but the MK35...when looking a the photos I tend to wonder why I don't buy more of them: they do such great subjects. Then you get one and you remember just why you don't. They all have trouble with the way the creases (especially in the pants) are sculpted. That's gonna be nteresting to fix...

So I'll have my work cut out. On the plus side, the 35th anniversary of the TWENOT will be celebrated with a big show in Overloon on May 15th: it will be a great place to stock up on stuff I still need as well as collect photos for the total Tamiya campaign. I'll be ready when the time comes
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 06:17 PM UTC
Chad: Diesel's good stuff And keep in mind that this campaign will be running for a full year, so Tamiya has ample time to get that kit released.

Benjamin: I've been going through some of that myself recently. Other than the hangups, it sounds like you have some good stuff going on. I still need to pick out something for the Total Tamiya campaign myself
Whiskey_1
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 11:16 PM UTC
Thanks Jeremy. At least I can take confidence from the fact that my friuls are still all as I glued them last time and that I'll have a nice little sum to get my fix May 15th
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 06:23 PM UTC

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Bas: That's awesome, but not sure what you are saying exactly?



Sd.Kfz. 979 Pz.Kpfw. XI Ausf. S6 "Leopard" is :
Sonderkraftfahrzeug 979 Panzerkampfwagen XI Ausführung S6 'Leopard'
or translated :
Special Purpose Vehicle 979 Armored Fighting vehicle XI Version S6 'Leopard'

Clear now? XD

New Pics btw.:

My 2nd attempt to airbrush something (1st is Sturmtiger), 1st time I made a camo with airbrush
It now has it's camo pattern, I've already gave it some washes (for depth)>
Further no weathering, only damage for the decals, not on the back, I forgot those. Tracks will get another 'color'.
Enjoy :















vonHengest
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 06:44 PM UTC
Benjamin: Indeed!

Bas: It's not the tank part I'm unclear about, that's fair game as far as I'm concerned.
The campaign won't be starting until May 15. Are you asking to use this build in this campaign?
Empire95
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 01:37 AM UTC
Oops...... fail..... Didn't read it started the 15h of May
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 02:52 AM UTC
Bas, are you planning a dio? If you have enough new material to add then you may be good to go when the campaign starts.