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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 12:06 PM UTC

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ok whats up with the red X theres supposed to be a pic there



There was an extra "http:" in the URL. Fixed now.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 04:49 PM UTC
Thanks gary I'm all thumbs when it comes to computer stuff
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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 04:53 PM UTC


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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 10:53 PM UTC
Here is my starting photo



Step 1



Step 2 minus the wheels




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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 01:34 AM UTC
Paul, your conversion is really looking good. Nicely done scratch building where needed. Looking forward to your next update.
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:16 AM UTC
Well, I finally have made enough progress on my DML M4 Composite Hull PTO build to post some progress photos. I've gotten through the lower and upper hull assemblies, as well as the bogies. I've drilled out the return track mounting holes in each bogie as it's a glaring omission on just about every Sherman I've built to date.
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:25 AM UTC
Hi Joel,
thanks for the praise mate, I really appreciate it.
Now Iīm no Sherman expert but, I have noticed something that canīt be right on your build.
The right hand add-on armor has a weld bead running over it,
this weld bead follows the join of the 2 hull parts. Thatīs
sure one co-incidence isnīt it
Iīd scrap the weld on the add-on armor, but thatīs just my 2 cents.

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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:52 AM UTC

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Hi Joel,
thanks for the praise mate, I really appreciate it.
Now Iīm no Sherman expert but, I have noticed something that canīt be right on your build.
The right hand add-on armor has a weld bead running over it,
this weld bead follows the join of the 2 hull parts. Thatīs
sure one co-incidence isnīt it
Iīd scrap the weld on the add-on armor, but thatīs just my 2 cents.

Paul



It's not a coincidence. It's correct -the add on armor is in two seperate pieces and has to be welded there to conform to the shape of the Hybrid Hull
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:11 AM UTC
It IS correct as Pat knows what he's doing.










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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:48 AM UTC
Well maybe I should of added this:
Scrap the weld bead and the top part of the add-on armor.
I know this is a left side shot but the right wonīt be any different will it?
for discusion purposes only



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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:53 AM UTC
Paul, left side didn't normally have the rear add-on plate, no need.

Any clues to why the first picture has such a large toolbox? Or was it always that big and my perception of scale is really just that bad?
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:24 AM UTC

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Scrap the weld bead and the top part of the add-on armor.
I know this is a left side shot but the right wonīt be any different will it?



The left side is different the add on armor is to cover the ammunition stowage which is in a different spot on the left side further forward. There are plenty of walkarounds of composite Shermans showing the add on armor with the distictive weld bead.

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Paul, left side didn't normally have the rear add-on plate, no need.


Because there was no ammunition stowage there


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Any clues to why the first picture has such a large toolbox? Or was it always that big and my perception of scale is really just that bad?



It's not a tool box- just a stowage box which was normally fitted on the rear of the Mk V but not on the Ic or the Ic composite- because it would obscure the hole for the starting crank. Sometimes these were scrounged from knocked out Mk Vs and fitted to the Glacis plate.
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:29 AM UTC
Thanks Pat. Tool/storage box, same thing. You can store tools in a box ya know! Already knew about the storage obscuring something, just not what it was blocking. Guess it would be annoying if you couldn't start up your M4 because of your 'storage' box.

Oh and what's happening with your Franken-Sherman?
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:57 AM UTC
A tool box is just for tools
A stowage box is for stowage which can be tools of course I remember reading that a lot of crews would wrap their sherman tools in a tarp and secure them to stop infantry types stealing their shovels and picks to dig foxholes

Somewhere on an old hard drive I have the official stowage diagrams for british Shermans. I'll see if I can dig them out.

My Frankensherman is progressing very slowly I'm still looking for my 1/35 numbers and letter stencils so I can finish it. I'm working on some figures to go with it. I'll post some pics tomorrow and I hope to get started on my M4A1 for this campaign this weekend
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:59 AM UTC



Some great Sherman walkarounds on Prime Portal
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 11:13 AM UTC
Here ya go Paul...

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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 11:31 AM UTC
Pat, sounds good. It's going to be funny to find that your 'get this done real fast' project turns into another Best of Show.

Looks great Mike. Almost believable, people always forget that they're taking pictures from slightly above their subjects and that gives it a 'tilted' effect that ruins the illusion.
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 01:54 PM UTC

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Looks great Mike. Almost believable, people always forget that they're taking pictures from slightly above their subjects and that gives it a 'tilted' effect that ruins the illusion.



It's on a curb: )

Wayne you need to close in your spare track rack. At the point you're at I'd just slip in a piece of paper and hit it with thin cyano. Here's a reference photo



From:
Shermanminutiawebsite
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:01 PM UTC







Hi guys. I haven't had much time lately to comment or model, but I see things moving well here. I've fixed all that I wish to spend my time on with the turret. Next I need to find a pair of logs to hang on one side, attach the stowage, and those EEC's
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 11:21 PM UTC
@ Pat: thanks for correction, lesson learned. Especially after I found this pic this morning it shows exactly what I hadnīt seen till now:


@ Christopher: we werenīt talking about the rear left, there is no armor plate there to talk about.

@ Mike: that is just what I meant and if you sort out the white bits in front and at the rear of the track it would be perfect.
On that next foto of yours where you show the spare track holders, is that a faint black camo on there or is that a shadow from a tree or something

@ Greg: a very nice 1/4 scale little elephant with big ears sir.

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:36 AM UTC

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@ Mike:On that next foto of yours where you show the spare track holders, is that a faint black camo on there or is that a shadow from a tree or something



I believe it's a shadow
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:37 AM UTC

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Looks great Mike. Almost believable, people always forget that they're taking pictures from slightly above their subjects and that gives it a 'tilted' effect that ruins the illusion.



It's on a curb: )

Wayne you need to close in your spare track rack. At the point you're at I'd just slip in a piece of paper and hit it with thin cyano. Here's a reference photo



From:
Shermanminutiawebsite



Ok thanks! I thought the rack was different. I'll get that fixed this weekend.

G
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 04:02 AM UTC
Pat, thanks for the information on that add on armor plate. I thought that it's placement had to do with the shell storage, and since it was directly on the hull wield line, that it was cut into two pieces, then wielded to the hull.

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 04:03 AM UTC
Greg, nice progress. Looking forward to seeing some paint on in your next update.
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 04:45 AM UTC

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Here ya go Paul...




Great pic Mike reminds me of these-I can't remember where I downloaded them from so apologies for not giving credit