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M1A1 AIM Dragon Kit
DeskJockey
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007 - 10:45 AM UTC
Nice, Yufkey! It's coming along very well.

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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007 - 11:19 AM UTC
looks great so far, cant wait to see this beauty complete, wish I hadve used that p/e sleeve on the mg , it does look better the way you have it.
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007 - 04:07 PM UTC
Looks great. Motivates me to get more work done on mine. My only question. How many tow cables are going on you tank? Thought I saw four of them. Don't they only have two per tank? Are you building a secret second tank?

Lookin' good Yufkey!
yufkey70
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007 - 06:54 PM UTC
I'm going to use only a total of three towing cables for the build. The third is for the use of recovery. The other two I picked up at a local German Modellbau store. Which I was going to use but its turns out that they were a little to big. Once again thanks for all of the feedback
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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 01:34 PM UTC
Is a diorama in the works?
yufkey70
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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:13 PM UTC
No there is no diorama in the works. To be honest I have never attempted to build one. I mostly just do models, but I have thought about trying to do one
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yufkey70
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Posted: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 10:00 PM UTC
Here are some more updated pictures from my build. It took me some time, trial, and error when it came to painting the road wheels and tracks. I can't say thats may favorite part of the build, but that part is over now. Now all I have left to do is weather the road wheels and tracks. Then I can glue, attach and paint the rest of the side skirts and kit. In the pictures below the side skrits are just in place but not glued.






The picture above are two road wheels that I applied some wash too. I would like to know which colored wash looks the best?? The one on the left is Burnt Umber oil wash and the one on the right is MIGs Neutral wash. Any feedback is welcomed.

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Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 10:45 AM UTC
Looking good, Yufkey! I think either of the wash colors looks good--the burnt umber looks like it has sifted the color of the base coat a bit toward the brown end of the spectrum, but it could just be the yellow light under which the pictures were taken.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 05:36 PM UTC
looks good
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Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:03 PM UTC
I like the middle road wheel. Looks like a real Abrams. I hope mine turns out as nice.
yufkey70
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Posted: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 09:59 PM UTC
Hello to all just wanted to let you know that I will have some new pictures of my build posted by the weekend. Thanks for all of the feed back
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Posted: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 09:55 AM UTC
Looks like it is coming along well. One note though, 3 ID tanks with the BRE basket did not have jerry can holders at either end of the basket. The USMC-style folding BRE has the jerry can holders on either end. 3ID used the basket-style 3 jerrry can racks like you have added to either side of the turret.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:49 AM UTC
That is the color they are when they show up at the unit thru the supply system. The desert tan is applied when they repaint the vehicle at a later date, or when GI joe goes to the supply sergeant and requests some tan paint, or in more cases than not, the platoon takes up a collection and goes out and buys several spray cans from walmart or the PX that they keep on hand for touch ups etc. We kept two cans of tan CARC paint amongst others in our conex for these "touch ups". Hope this helps. "Q"
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Posted: Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:44 AM UTC
Good day to all here are some pictures of my Abrams. After tweezers launching many small pieces and having to redo some of the tracks, I finally finished most of the hard work. Now I can begin the weathering process.






As you can see of the left side I had to replace and repaint one of the tracks. They seem not to hold well against the weathering process
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Posted: Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 03:02 PM UTC
I love it! It's really coming along great.
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Posted: Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 07:07 PM UTC

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That is the color they are when they show up at the unit thru the supply system. The desert tan is applied when they repaint the vehicle at a later date, or when GI joe goes to the supply sergeant and requests some tan paint, or in more cases than not, the platoon takes up a collection and goes out and buys several spray cans from walmart or the PX that they keep on hand for touch ups etc. We kept two cans of tan CARC paint amongst others in our conex for these "touch ups". Hope this helps. "Q"


I was at 1st Tanks at Camp Pendleton in the early 1980's and we used to get our paint at DSSC (supply) to paint the vehicles and we kept them looking good. Then about 1990 Desert Storm and CARC paint, we got told that we could no longer paint our vehicles because you had to use special respirators and paint rooms. DSSC quit stocking any paint colors that we might use because they didn’t want us to use anything but the CARC. So, our vehicles looked like bums owned them. This is one reason you see Marine vehicles in Iraq with Tan, NATO 3 color, and straight factory green. As well as replacement parts in green. I just wish we could have gotten some spray cans of CARC.
Don
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2007 - 02:30 PM UTC
Your Abrams is coming along quite nicely, Yufkey. You may want to fiddle around with your camera or image software to brighten up the pictures and correct the yellow tinge--your work will really shine if you get the hang of the photographs.
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2007 - 08:49 PM UTC
Deskjockey thanks for the feedback about picture taking. I finally notice that I didn't have the flash on. Go figure, but I will mess around with the lighting and flash. Hopefully my next pictures will come out better
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 03:54 AM UTC

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That is the color they are when they show up at the unit thru the supply system. The desert tan is applied when they repaint the vehicle at a later date, or when GI joe goes to the supply sergeant and requests some tan paint, or in more cases than not, the platoon takes up a collection and goes out and buys several spray cans from walmart or the PX that they keep on hand for touch ups etc. We kept two cans of tan CARC paint amongst others in our conex for these "touch ups". Hope this helps. "Q"


I was at 1st Tanks at Camp Pendleton in the early 1980's and we used to get our paint at DSSC (supply) to paint the vehicles and we kept them looking good. Then about 1990 Desert Storm and CARC paint, we got told that we could no longer paint our vehicles because you had to use special respirators and paint rooms. DSSC quit stocking any paint colors that we might use because they didn’t want us to use anything but the CARC. So, our vehicles looked like bums owned them. This is one reason you see Marine vehicles in Iraq with Tan, NATO 3 color, and straight factory green. As well as replacement parts in green. I just wish we could have gotten some spray cans of CARC.
Don





I've painted a lot of military vehicles over the years. so I thought I would let you know why vehicles painted with CARC sometimes look like they were just pulled from the junk yard. CARC is a special paint/coating that came about in the 80's. It is a two part epoxy. one part is color the other is the hardener. They are mixed together just before spraying. When it sets up, it provides a hard almost plastic like coating that is impervious to chemical warfare agents, and most other chemicals. To spray it, you have to have full body suits and hoods, with clean compressed air pumped in so you don't breath the mist. If the paint gets in your lungs it will set up and coat them just like the vehicle you are painting. As you can guess this is not good for your lungs. Because of this, most units quit painting their own equipment and had to budget money to send them back to a depot for painting.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 01:14 PM UTC

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That is the color they are when they show up at the unit thru the supply system. The desert tan is applied when they repaint the vehicle at a later date, or when GI joe goes to the supply sergeant and requests some tan paint, or in more cases than not, the platoon takes up a collection and goes out and buys several spray cans from walmart or the PX that they keep on hand for touch ups etc. We kept two cans of tan CARC paint amongst others in our conex for these "touch ups". Hope this helps. "Q"


I was at 1st Tanks at Camp Pendleton in the early 1980's and we used to get our paint at DSSC (supply) to paint the vehicles and we kept them looking good. Then about 1990 Desert Storm and CARC paint, we got told that we could no longer paint our vehicles because you had to use special respirators and paint rooms. DSSC quit stocking any paint colors that we might use because they didn’t want us to use anything but the CARC. So, our vehicles looked like bums owned them. This is one reason you see Marine vehicles in Iraq with Tan, NATO 3 color, and straight factory green. As well as replacement parts in green. I just wish we could have gotten some spray cans of CARC.
Don





I've painted a lot of military vehicles over the years. so I thought I would let you know why vehicles painted with CARC sometimes look like they were just pulled from the junk yard. CARC is a special paint/coating that came about in the 80's. It is an two part epoxy. one part is color the other is the hardener. They are mixed together just before spraying. When it sets up, it provides a hard almost plastic like coating that is impervious to chemical warfare agents, and most other chemicals. To spray it, you have to have full body suits and hoods, with clean compressed air pumped in so you don't breath the mist. If the paint gets in youy lungs it will set up and coat them just like the vehicle you are painting. As you can guess this is not good for your lungs. Because of this, most units quit painting their own equipment and had to budget money to send them back to a depot for painting.


Jerry,
Thank you, that clears up the reason why they took our paint away from us. I guess they don't put it in spray cans after all.
Don
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 01:52 PM UTC

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Deskjockey thanks for the feedback about picture taking. I finally notice that I didn't have the flash on. Go figure, but I will mess around with the lighting and flash. Hopefully my next pictures will come out better



Actually I prefer not to use the flash when taking pictures. It makes the model to bright for me anyway. Also it doesn't look natural because the light isn't coming from the top (like the sun) but from whatever direction the camera points. Simply put it on the macro setting (for close up pics with a digital camera) and use the timer. You don't want to handle the camera at all when taking your pictures as even just pushing the button can cause some shaking and blurriness. You don't need a fancy tri-pod. I just use whatever is the right height (in my case a small wooden box) and to adjust the angle that the camera sits I use pennies as shims. And as far as white balance this really makes a nice difference. In the manual setting your camera can adjust the white balance and this should help keep your pictures from looking too yellow. I hope some of this makes sense. Basically just play around with your camera. Adjust various settings and see what happens. I use a pretty basic one (Canon A550) but it takes darn good model pictures. Took a while but I got the hang of it. Have fun and keep those updates coming.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 06:21 AM UTC
Nice Abrams Yufkey!

I've been out the game(model building) for years, and really want to start back up. I'm thinking of building this Dragon kit. What reference book did you use if any during this build?

Super clean looking,

lemmuhj
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Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:31 PM UTC
I didn't use any books most of it was from pictures off the internet or from here. Thanks for the feedback.