. The last post was from someone who must be a member of the VB fan club, since he was refusing to see the truth written plainly in front of his own eyes going by what he wrote. 
Mike
edit: oops spoke too soon, see my post a couple down.
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Kelley
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 04:56 AM UTC
Well it took longer than I thought it might, but the topic on MM was just deleted, imagine that . The last post was from someone who must be a member of the VB fan club, since he was refusing to see the truth written plainly in front of his own eyes going by what he wrote.
Mike
edit: oops spoke too soon, see my post a couple down.
. The last post was from someone who must be a member of the VB fan club, since he was refusing to see the truth written plainly in front of his own eyes going by what he wrote. Mike
edit: oops spoke too soon, see my post a couple down.
FAUST
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 05:19 AM UTC
Ola Mike
It is Still there (I'm stunned by surprise as well)
Collectors' Edition Issue 5 Euro Militaire 2008
Is it just my copy that's rubbish?
Probably I'm the only one who still thinks it is a bit odd tha the whole issue still revolves about the really daft photography ban while the real issue brought up in the threads both on Armorama and MM had the message... Why the Military Meddling Euromilitaire (not so) Special was utter crap.
It is Still there (I'm stunned by surprise as well)
Collectors' Edition Issue 5 Euro Militaire 2008
Is it just my copy that's rubbish?
Probably I'm the only one who still thinks it is a bit odd tha the whole issue still revolves about the really daft photography ban while the real issue brought up in the threads both on Armorama and MM had the message... Why the Military Meddling Euromilitaire (not so) Special was utter crap.
afvmodellermag
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 05:27 AM UTC
Mil Mod only had to ask!
We could have taken some nice well lit focused photos for them - we had all the equipment there with us...
We could have had it printed on some nice paper for them as well
Maybe next year eh?
David
Editor AFV Modeller Magazine
We could have taken some nice well lit focused photos for them - we had all the equipment there with us...
We could have had it printed on some nice paper for them as well
Maybe next year eh?
David
Editor AFV Modeller Magazine
Kelley
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 06:22 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Ola Mike
It is Still there (I'm stunned by surprise as well)
Collectors' Edition Issue 5 Euro Militaire 2008
Is it just my copy that's rubbish?
Probably I'm the only one who still thinks it is a bit odd tha the whole issue still revolves about the really daft photography ban while the real issue brought up in the threads both on Armorama and MM had the message... Why the Military Meddling Euromilitaire (not so) Special was utter crap.
Yeah my mistake, I tried to post and my post was deleted before it was even posted, so I assumed (wrongly) the whole thread was deleted. Someone (wonder who
) is keeping a close eye on this one, and as mentioned, editing and deleting as they please. Wow big surprise there. 
Cheers,
Mike
AlanL
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 06:47 AM UTC
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Considering everything thats been said about this matter, this thread on MM particularly tickled me
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forum/forummessages.asp?UTN=7942&URN=11&dt=4&srchdte=0&cp=1&v=6&sp=
I guess there will be more people taking a blind eye to this crap. I for one wont be buying the 'special', theres plenty of high quality pics on the net thanks, and they dont cost me a penny.
Hi Rob,
Interesting and one more good reason not to buy the magazine. No doubt there will be lots of panzers and to quote from comments made by a fellow modeller elsewhere.
quote
"I was referring to his old "Undercoat with Tamiya Nato Black, then paint with Tamiya Dark Yellow, giving it a heavier coat in the middle of the panels"
if I read that once more I'm sure I'll go mad and hang myself with my Iwata hose."
Unquote
No offence intended to those who build on the Axis side of life, but I did think it was seriously funny. But No , I am being cruel and silly and I apologise - like hXXl I do
The whole sorry sage is pathetic and rediculous. MM actively block the other magazines from taklng quality pics, then offer them a crap CD that they can use after MM have published the 'Euro Special' which truns out to be a naff publication, of extremely low quality.
Are the magazine publishers happy? No, and they have every right not to be, having paid good money to come and report on the event. Are the manufacturers and vendors happy? No, becasue they got much less publicity for the new models than otherwise would have happened.
Have MM taken any steps to compensate the publishers or work out a sensible arrangement for next year? No, to the best of my knowledge so far they haven't.
Are the people who bought the 'Special' happy? No, because it is a 3rd rate publication.
I had a call a few days ago from their marketing people asking me why I hadn't renewed my subscription. The chap sounded like a fairly decent guy, and I hadn't the heart to tell him exactly why as I am sure it would have spoiled his day.
Al
docdios
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 09:26 AM UTC
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I had a call a few days ago from their marketing people asking me why I hadn't renewed my subscription. The chap sounded like a fairly decent guy, and I hadn't the heart to tell him exactly why as I am sure it would have spoiled his day.
Al
May be you should have told them why you didn't renew, it's the ability to deal with negative feedback and sort out what's gone wrong that helps you put them right.
In all of this it is the loyal subscribers of MM I feel most sorry for, they were promised exclusive first look (not including the internet) in print of one the premier modelling shows in the world, and yet the publication appears to have been a complete let down in the quality of production.
Now if they had banned all the other magazines then published a high quality edition to high light the work, then nobody could really complain. The problem is now everybody now knows that other publications could have and would have done it better it one of the reasons that I subscribe to AFV modeller is because of the quality that goes into it. I have yet to see any apology or explanation to its readership as to why the quality was so poor.
shame really
Keith
AlanL
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 10:28 AM UTC
Hi Keith,
Perhaps your right, but I gave up on MM and it's editor sometime ago and can't really be bothered. If they wish to mount a major PR disaster, destroy a lot of good will and generally piss people off then I really couldn't care less, it's about power for the course.
You're right of course it's the MM subscribers who lost out , plus just about everone else I can think of.
Al
Perhaps your right, but I gave up on MM and it's editor sometime ago and can't really be bothered. If they wish to mount a major PR disaster, destroy a lot of good will and generally piss people off then I really couldn't care less, it's about power for the course.
You're right of course it's the MM subscribers who lost out , plus just about everone else I can think of.
Al
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 11:10 AM UTC
It is interesting how this issue has had a dramatic snowball effect.
I may have missed it but why the change this year?.....was the decision made by Euro organizers or by MM or by both?
Have the Euro organizers stepped up to explain the decisions made and if any changes will be made next year?
I think this has had a ripple effect that MM and Euro did not anticipate.....tough break for everyone. Hard lessons learned at this year's Euro....hopefully the same thing won't be done at future shows.
Oh.......in order to show the good spirit of furthering modelling around the globe.....the 2009 Alberta AFV Modeller Show (AAFVMS) is (and always will be) open to any and all magazines that wish to attend and we will set up a dedicated area for you to take photos........obviously our humble little show is not as extravagant as Euro but we are friendly, we have fun, Canadian girls are very hot, the beers flow before and afterwards, and the fabulous Rocky Mountains are only a short drive away.
I may have missed it but why the change this year?.....was the decision made by Euro organizers or by MM or by both?
Have the Euro organizers stepped up to explain the decisions made and if any changes will be made next year?
I think this has had a ripple effect that MM and Euro did not anticipate.....tough break for everyone. Hard lessons learned at this year's Euro....hopefully the same thing won't be done at future shows.
Oh.......in order to show the good spirit of furthering modelling around the globe.....the 2009 Alberta AFV Modeller Show (AAFVMS) is (and always will be) open to any and all magazines that wish to attend and we will set up a dedicated area for you to take photos........obviously our humble little show is not as extravagant as Euro but we are friendly, we have fun, Canadian girls are very hot, the beers flow before and afterwards, and the fabulous Rocky Mountains are only a short drive away.
rinaldi119
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:34 PM UTC
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Canadian girls are very hot, the beers flow before and afterwards
Nuf' said, we're there!
Mike
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 04:37 PM UTC
Haha.......thanks for the show of support Mike.......and the alcohol content in the beer is higher than in the States.
Even though we have a relatively small show we have excellent modellers and modelling book authors attend on an annual basis....Tom Cockle, Jim Carswell, Gary Edmunson, and Steve Van Beveren..........and Dragon artists......Ron Volstad and Doug Jameson.
Time for the little shows all over to show just how much of a postive influence they have on all the other modellers inspite of the 2008 Euro scandal.
Even though we have a relatively small show we have excellent modellers and modelling book authors attend on an annual basis....Tom Cockle, Jim Carswell, Gary Edmunson, and Steve Van Beveren..........and Dragon artists......Ron Volstad and Doug Jameson.
Time for the little shows all over to show just how much of a postive influence they have on all the other modellers inspite of the 2008 Euro scandal.
jimbrae
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 12:29 AM UTC
A most interesting development. One of the 'loyalists' has started a thread which seems to have all the classic elements of Smithers in the 'Simpsons' (Sorry, I only have two kidneys to give you mr. Branigan kind of thing )
It then goes on from the usual'We are not worthy master' kind of posts, to a response from the 'Dear Leader' himself (just imagine it with gloomy organ music and maps of inexistent army units and you'll get the idea of the 'ambience'):
So, it's official. If you go against the 'Official' line, or even have a high(ish) profile on THIS site, you're banned. Now, is that a punishment or a reward? I'm sure there must be more syconphantic sites out there, but I doubt it. So, I guess i'll just stay here on this 'small' site with it's 35230 Registered Users, 1006178 Total Forum Posts and 43778 Stories published
If it's a question of ego (and its corresponding insecurity) by comparison we're a VERY small entity indeed. If community means brown-nosing in the hope of getting a free kit, perhaps someone needs to look at their definitions more closely. If smashing down even the mildest criticism is a sign of grandeur, then with all respect, we'll stay the size we are...
)It then goes on from the usual'We are not worthy master' kind of posts, to a response from the 'Dear Leader' himself (just imagine it with gloomy organ music and maps of inexistent army units and you'll get the idea of the 'ambience'):
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The simple fact is, there are some very sad, immature, jealous people out there, all upset for one reason or another, but all coming down to same reasons. Jealousy & greed.
What we don't need, is for those few hours every week that we do have to actually do something we enjoy doing, to be spoilt by a minority of self-important, selfish non-entites, who would rather spend their time attempting to spread the poison of their own little unhappy lives, to others.
For that reason I will continue to deny them access to this site and this community.
They are not welcome, and never will be. They are free to spread their poison on their own little sites. Perhaps thats what galls them more than anything. The fact that we don't care. We have the ability to block them out of our lives so that their poison only damages themselves and nobody else.
I don't care what they say on their own little sites. Little sites they have become because of their vile tactics and their own stupidity. I am extremely lucky to have been given the opportunity to do what I love doing for a living.... For that reason I can laugh off their snide remarks, since they're a result of jealousy. But I won't allow them to post here. Any of them. (Cackles Madly)
So, it's official. If you go against the 'Official' line, or even have a high(ish) profile on THIS site, you're banned. Now, is that a punishment or a reward? I'm sure there must be more syconphantic sites out there, but I doubt it. So, I guess i'll just stay here on this 'small' site with it's 35230 Registered Users, 1006178 Total Forum Posts and 43778 Stories published
If it's a question of ego (and its corresponding insecurity) by comparison we're a VERY small entity indeed. If community means brown-nosing in the hope of getting a free kit, perhaps someone needs to look at their definitions more closely. If smashing down even the mildest criticism is a sign of grandeur, then with all respect, we'll stay the size we are...
afv_rob
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 01:09 AM UTC
Im sorry but that thread on MM is a joke! I have no loyalty to any site, if Jim became the ed of some magazine and pulled a stunt like this, id be equally as pi**ed as I am with MM, I wouldnt start burying my head in the sand Just cos ive gotten a free review sample in the past, or because I feel I have some 'special allegiance' to this site.
I mainly visit ML and armorama because its these two sites that have the best community and I get the best info. Best community? Well you may argue MM has the best community cos everyone on there seems to love each other, however what the hell is the point in that. The reason I love these sites is because you actually get constructive feedback, and constructive information, we dont have a load of people on here brown nosing each other, and kissing each others arses. Nor do we have a blog section thats full to the brim with German armor-but hey im digressing haha.
The fact is it seems a lot of people are going to keep their mouthes shut and just ignore something that is plainly out of order, and a real smack in the face to publications that put a lot of effort into the quality of their work. As others has said this wouldnt perhaps be such an issue if MM had produced a decent magazine covering the event, but they havent, and they have stopped anyone else from producing decent coverage for those people who dont have access to these forums and wont get to see the pics anywhere else. From an armor modellers perspective as well, theres no point me buying the show special because half of it will be busts, figures etc etc, thats why the AFV modeller article was perfect because it just covered armor. I fail to see how that can be a threat to MM, because surely half the readership arent even armor modellers, so they'll buy it anyway to see the figures etc.
Its just seems a bit sad that you can silence anyone from giving an opinion buy sending them free kits, maybe im wrong, but thats how it seems looking at MM.
I mainly visit ML and armorama because its these two sites that have the best community and I get the best info. Best community? Well you may argue MM has the best community cos everyone on there seems to love each other, however what the hell is the point in that. The reason I love these sites is because you actually get constructive feedback, and constructive information, we dont have a load of people on here brown nosing each other, and kissing each others arses. Nor do we have a blog section thats full to the brim with German armor-but hey im digressing haha.
The fact is it seems a lot of people are going to keep their mouthes shut and just ignore something that is plainly out of order, and a real smack in the face to publications that put a lot of effort into the quality of their work. As others has said this wouldnt perhaps be such an issue if MM had produced a decent magazine covering the event, but they havent, and they have stopped anyone else from producing decent coverage for those people who dont have access to these forums and wont get to see the pics anywhere else. From an armor modellers perspective as well, theres no point me buying the show special because half of it will be busts, figures etc etc, thats why the AFV modeller article was perfect because it just covered armor. I fail to see how that can be a threat to MM, because surely half the readership arent even armor modellers, so they'll buy it anyway to see the figures etc.
Its just seems a bit sad that you can silence anyone from giving an opinion buy sending them free kits, maybe im wrong, but thats how it seems looking at MM.
Gunny
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 01:09 AM UTC
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It's not tricky at all. They're not welcome here and I'm not going to discuss it. Nothing they are saying is constructive. It's just bile. End of.
Vinnie
....and then I'm going to take my ball, and I'm going home...na-na-na na na.............
Please...give me a break...I don't know how you sleep at night, but, I better be careful, or I'll be accused of "bashing the ol' chap"...
jimbrae
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 01:12 AM UTC
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I don't know how you sleep at night, but, I better be careful,
I think you mean 'During the day' actually - and it possibly involves a box and some earth...
jimbrae
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 02:08 AM UTC
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I mainly visit ML and armorama because its these two sites that have the best community and I get the best info. Best community? Well you may argue MM has the best community cos everyone on there seems to love each other, however what the hell is the point in that. The reason I love these sites is because you actually get constructive feedback, and constructive information, we dont have a load of people on here brown nosing each other, and kissing each others arses.
I agree - 'Community' is nothing to do with a load of people agreeing with everything everone else says. Here, on THIS site we do occasionally have minor flare-ups which are little to do with Trolls but 99% of the time with people that feel VERY passionately about the hobby. Any creative partnership or community WILL have its disagreements. There is, IMO, nothing LESS creative or useful to have an ingrained 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all' philosophy.
Saying all this, I think we DO have some work to do in fostering MUCH more community spirit here. It's difficult with the numbers we have but it has to be tackled.
People do have to feel they can 'engage' more with the site they also have to understand that we DON'T punish for going against the party-line (Whatever the hell that actually is
) but we can't imporove if people DON'T express their opinions. I feel genuine pity for someone who feels has to kiss-butt to get hold of a Review Sample - and yes, we saw it ALL before when VB was M.E. of this site. Maybe it works in North Korea as well...
dropshot
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 02:13 AM UTC
Very witty Jim ,I almost choked ,But seriously I haven´t bought a magazine since I found this site even whilst wandering bored & aimlessly around an airport,I haven´t felt the temptation because if I have to choose between spending the same amount on a magazine or some resin accessories or P.etch,It´s an easy choice for the money. NO magazine can give you feed-back or advice at the click of a mouse. 
viper29_ca
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 02:32 AM UTC
Maybe in the end, VB is just jealious and ashamed that he LOST his position with one of the best modeling sites on the net, and had to SETTLE for a second rate site/company to spue his negative thoughts around the world. Maybe he isn't getting the attention now that he is on that second rate site, which makes me wonder why he would want to alienate those that may not have been to his site before, bye making statements like:
That alone would be enough for me if I was a new reader to his site or magazine to turn me off from wanting to go back, or go there in the first place.
Nevermind my own run ins with the high and mighty VB, which I won't get into here, but to say that he is on a power trip, would be like saying that the Atlantic Ocean is but a drop of water.
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What we don't need, is for those few hours every week that we do have to actually do something we enjoy doing, to be spoilt by a minority of self-important, selfish non-entites, who would rather spend their time attempting to spread the poison of their own little unhappy lives, to others.
For that reason I will continue to deny them access to this site and this community.
That alone would be enough for me if I was a new reader to his site or magazine to turn me off from wanting to go back, or go there in the first place.
Nevermind my own run ins with the high and mighty VB, which I won't get into here, but to say that he is on a power trip, would be like saying that the Atlantic Ocean is but a drop of water.
SIRNEIL
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 02:42 AM UTC
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That alone would be enough for me if I was a new reader to his site or magazine to turn me off from wanting to go back, or go there in the first place.
ha ha
made me go and check out that site..........
(can anyone help me with the dot filter question)
neil
Kelley
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 04:53 AM UTC
Man, according to some we are a bunch of bad people, aren't we!
Cut through all the nonsense, and there has still been no reason or explanation given for the crap quality of the not so special Euro edition of MM. Oh, and I guess that statement would be why my single short post on MM was deleted, that or the Vin-man just don't like me too much
.
Cheers to all of my fellow 9 year old, jealous, and greedy community members out there!!
Mike
Cut through all the nonsense, and there has still been no reason or explanation given for the crap quality of the not so special Euro edition of MM. Oh, and I guess that statement would be why my single short post on MM was deleted, that or the Vin-man just don't like me too much
.Cheers to all of my fellow 9 year old, jealous, and greedy community members out there!!
Mike
rinaldi119
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 05:37 AM UTC
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Haha.......thanks for the show of support Mike.......and the alcohol content in the beer is higher than in the States.
Even though we have a relatively small show we have excellent modellers and modelling book authors attend on an annual basis....Tom Cockle, Jim Carswell, Gary Edmunson, and Steve Van Beveren..........and Dragon artists......Ron Volstad and Doug Jameson.
Time for the little shows all over to show just how much of a postive influence they have on all the other modellers inspite of the 2008 Euro scandal.
Absolutely, in all seriousness, Tom, Gary, Steve, Ron and myself (Nick also) have become good friends over the last few years and I would love to come up to the show. It has been on my radar to attend and hopefully I can go north in 09. They also usually attend Euro and were sorely missed this year.
Best,
Mike
jimbrae
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 12:28 AM UTC
Well, for Michael and the other editors who felt badly treated at EM, the consensus (on the 'other' site) seems to be growing that you have little to complain about:
Sadly, I was (before this debacle started) very seriously considering going to EM. Now, i'll be going to Torrent instead and, if finances and SWMBO permit, the KMK show...
As active users of THIS site has effectively been banned from from their website, effectively, by implication, our presence is no longer welcome at EM either. Saves me the hassle of going to Folkestone....
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I'm afraid that the recent competing magazine articles (about EM) come across as rather sad and weak, and do not do those publications any favours. Surely a much bolder and stronger response would have been for them to take it like a man and not wimper and complain like a child. I am very sorry but I have no sympathy for them.
Sadly, I was (before this debacle started) very seriously considering going to EM. Now, i'll be going to Torrent instead and, if finances and SWMBO permit, the KMK show...
As active users of THIS site has effectively been banned from from their website, effectively, by implication, our presence is no longer welcome at EM either. Saves me the hassle of going to Folkestone....
Gunny
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 01:32 AM UTC
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Well, for Michael and the other editors who felt badly treated at EM, the consensus (on the 'other' site) seems to be growing that you have little to complain about:
Quoted TextI'm afraid that the recent competing magazine articles (about EM) come across as rather sad and weak, and do not do those publications any favours. Surely a much bolder and stronger response would have been for them to take it like a man and not wimper and complain like a child. I am very sorry but I have no sympathy for them.
Sadly, I was (before this debacle started) very seriously considering going to EM. Now, i'll be going to Torrent instead and, if finances and SWMBO permit, the KMK show...
As active users of THIS site has effectively been banned from from their website, effectively, by implication, our presence is no longer welcome at EM either. Saves me the hassle of going to Folkestone....
I'm still shaking my head....I've become quite intrigued of the mentality over at MM, as having been a surfer who rarely (nearly ever) surfed the waters of the site, I've not been exposed much to their forums...OK, I'm all 100% for camaraderie in the community, and strive myself to do the same, but honestly...take it like a man?...wimper and complain like a child?... why are the real issues of these threads either being ignored, swept under the rug, or just plain not understood by these guys? (Or am I missing something here???)
I have alot of faith in human intelligence (although quite questionable sometimes) but a great injustice has been done here, to not only the vendors that were effected, but to the hobby of model building over all...and NOTHING is being done about it, and when the hash starts slinging, well the subject is changed, or the "complainers" are chastised for actually having the jumblies to say something about it.
I personally feel quite ashamed of the whole ordeal, if something like this would happen in my company or event, somebody's butt would be on the line, AND some serious damage control measures in effect...again, people, open your eyes...
afv_rob
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 03:12 AM UTC
Well it seems ive been banned from MM, not sure if anyone else is getting this, but if I try to go there it just says 'Service unavailable'.
edit-guess its a technical thing, we shall see....
edit-guess its a technical thing, we shall see....
docdios
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 03:24 AM UTC
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Well it seems ive been banned from MM, not sure if anyone else is getting this, but if I try to go there it just says 'Service unavailable', truly spectacular in my opinion, and too think im the one being childish-because I dont agree on the stance they are taking on this matter. Oh well I guess I am only 20, what do I know about being mature etc etc
Rob
your not the only one I get it as well
Keith
arpikaszabo
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 03:34 AM UTC
Woow, this is weird. I get the same although I did not comment on this issue. Is it server problem or did they find a way to block all Armorama users? These guys over at MM are really funny
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