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Hybrid pz VI ausf B "Kampfgruppe Berlin"
Beyond
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 12:13 PM UTC
Hey Spit,

That is an awesome looking King Tiger.
Can't say much more than that

Also the groups picture is a nice one
Just noticed that you don't use much of the side fenders... pitty.. but that's my opinion
Can't say I can do better, don't even gonna get close to your work...
Between us, You're the master

Hope to see another one from your hands

Grtz,
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 12:42 AM UTC
WooHoo!

I wasn't expecting to see this done so soon Pawel! After all that hard work, this has come out beautifully. You stuck with it and I really beleive this is a brilliant Tiger.

Seeing the family photo at the end gives me memories of all 3 builds, and its great to see them together, you truly are the Ausf. B master.
That reminds me, I like the 'B' on the front glacis a nice touch.
One issue though, I could be wrong (Herbert are you reading this?), but a late turret would have been left in bare primer inside and not had the ivory paint inside the loaders hatch. (could even have been painted dunklegelb?), but this is being picky now so ignore me.

The primer barrel came out nicely, (By the way they were commonly seen on Tiger 1's) and I look forward to seeing the different coloured muzzle brake on your next Ausf. B!

Brilliant work, one to be proud of, can't wait to see how the workhorse turnns out!

James
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 12:52 AM UTC
Smashing work mate.
barkmann424
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 02:37 AM UTC
Hi Pawel! A lovely 'Ambush' (thanks Panhard Pete) of Koenig's you have lurking there Spit! That weathering is awesome, though I wouldn't want to think how many tokens that these would use up at the carwash! One strange thing that has caught my eye is, how the differing camo schemes, affect the percieved visual size of these KT's... I wonder if anybody else has noticed this when 'grouping' the same species of AFV's together for a 'family' photoshoot? What are you up to next fella?

Great stuff! Phil
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 03:45 AM UTC
Hi pawel
As allways stunning work and great looking pictures.In the end it turned out really good and the last picture is the best "A PRIDE OF PAWELS TIGERS"..........
Looking forward to seeing the workhorse finished but don't you think it's about time for a tiger 1 maybe.
neil............
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 07:42 AM UTC
Hey there Spit,
I know this one has been a trial for you, but the final result is GREAT!
You do a terrific job with your painting and weathering. Now to get on with the "Workhorse."
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 09:16 AM UTC
Great to see the Kt finished. Nailed the barrel with that slight metalic sheen. Hitlers Last throw of the dice. I love the Hybrid. It Looks great, just like you said on the packet " A Hybrid Aust B" Thanks for another awsome adventure in the land of the KT's. The different camo on the turret and hull is very striking and something I've not seen before. Also you can really see the difference in the age of them both, old hull and new turret. Thats what I really like, i think its what makes this model so good. The way you've mated old and new, with it still being one cat. Nice to see the 3 together. My Fav is still the Befehlstiger, the octopus camo is just so good. You dont see many models sporting that late war camo. All 3 are models you should be very proud of. Thanks, see you soon I hope. Pawel dont stop trying with the Zim, as you know "Pratice Makes Perfect" Check out Phils Tiger Fest, he really knows his Zim. Nice One LOL Geraint P.S Hows the mud thing going
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 08:04 PM UTC
Pawel,

What can I say? Another fun and excellent build and build log! Your concept of a hybrid Tiger II is interesting and the execution is brilliant and believable. I enjoyed your build log (as always) and enjoyed the input from your followers too. Again I learned some new techiques from you and from those posting as well. Please don't stay away to long . . . your build logs are always worth following!

-Eddy
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:48 AM UTC
Hi,

First of all I apologize for the late answer but I spent most of the last 24 hours in a hospital assisting my wife and watching the first hours of my little daughter.


Rob,

thank you for the comments.


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I don't think I would would have the time or patience to pull off a build like that.



Have you took a good look on your brilliant models:-X


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The last pic of the three kitties is great, I like the ones on the ends, something about the camo schemes.



I feel in you the late war spirit

Looking at the "how to" on fine scale modeller makes me want to make a knock out, rusty T II.


Beyond,

Thank you for your kind comments. I'm glad you like this build. About the shürzen, I personally prefer the look of this tank without them, but it's just me.

James my friend,

thank you for your comments and support


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I wasn't expecting to see this done so soon Pawel!



I know what you mean What have helped a lot was to take an already finished model (even if some additional work was needed). I still remember 6 months of the last befehlspanzer...


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One issue though, I could be wrong (Herbert are you reading this?), but a late turret would have been left in bare primer inside and not had the ivory paint inside the loaders hatch. (could even have been painted dunklegelb?),



from my sources and discussions on other forums the interior of tanks was left in red primer only for a short moment (if I remember well end of 1944), after plaints from the crews it was canceled. I might be wrong about the colour but (ivory/white, dunkelgelb or... if we go further , olivgrun on vehicles with the dark green paint as base colour ) but red oxide seems to be false route here.

Martyn,

thank you for your comment. I'm glad you like my kitty

Phil,

After reading your comment it's true that that different camo scheme on the turret makes it look different/ bigger/ larger etc. Good point.
What's next? Must follow the work on the pz IV I started, I decided to use one of many panthers in my stock and there's a finished Jagdtiger on my shelf I don't like any more... In addition I'm not really sure how long I'll be able to stay away from one of my 7 KTs I have in my stash

Neil,

thanks man!


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but don't you think it's about time for a tiger 1 maybe.



It crossed my mind. I have only one in my stock (the one with zimmerit moulded on). I promised myself not to touch this pesky paste for some time. If I could get one nice Dragon's initial....

Bill,

thank you


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Now to get on with the "Workhorse."



I'll do my best


Geraint mate,

thanks for the comment, I'm really flattered. I must say that the last befehlspanzer is also my favourite T II


Eddy,

I'm glad you followed that build and liked it. I admire your knowledge about the TII. I've read all the precious comments you made in Marco's Tiger B Initilal build.


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Again I learned some new techiques from you and from those posting as well.



your last words make me very happy as (as I indicated many times) this is the very heart of my idea of build logs.

Thank you all guys for your support and help.

spit
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 12:41 PM UTC
Spit. Congrad's on the new addition to your family,hope both are well and healthy. Great news Regards LOL Geraint
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 04:08 AM UTC
Congratulations with your daughter.
Hope she and mom are doing fine.

A new era in your life has started.....DAD

Grtz,
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 05:00 AM UTC
[quote]Hi,

First of all I apologize for the late answer but I spent most of the last 24 hours in a hospital assisting my wife and watching the first hours of my little daughter.


Congrats Dad! Pack up your models and put them away

I m a father of a 21 month old boy and Ill be added another Stevenson to my clan in August. Theyre worth every sleepless night! Spend all the time you can with her - they grow up quick.

Just kidding about packing up your models - I havent had to do that, its just hard to anything painted with an airbrush.

Your KTs look great, i guess youll be taking a break from the TIger for a bit?

CHris
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 07:44 AM UTC
This one slipped by me to the finish line somehow Pawel, very nice work on the finish and looks right at home with the rest of the "family".

Also a very big congratulations on the birth of your daughter!
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 08:19 AM UTC
Pawel,

Congratulations to both you and your wife on your greatest addition to your family!!! Wishing you the best of everything that life has to offer, and then some . . . enjoy yourselfs with your new daughter. Now you have two bosses at home, LOL!

Thanks for the comment Pawel, but you, Herbert Ackermens, Gerald Owens and quite a few others here are the top guns when it comes to the Kingtiger.

-Eddy & Hieu
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 10:07 AM UTC
thank you all, don't worry I'll not pack up my models I already have a 3 years old son. A small anecdote.
Once he asked me why there was no door in the display furniture I have in the leaving room. Well, of course there's is a door but no lock to keep it closed so I put it backwards to save my little 1/35 fellas

There maybe a punctual fluctuation from my normal free/websurfing/posting/modelling time - 22H - 2 AM.... as the family got bigger but I hope it won't be significant.

thank you all once again

spit

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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 09:39 PM UTC
Wo W pawel, a busy week! A finished Tiger B and a baby! Two wonderful additions to your 'extended family'!

I stand corrected on the interior colour info as you've clearly done your research!

Congratulations mate

James
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 11:21 PM UTC
Congratulations indeed Pawel! And to your dear wife of course... Hope she's a dreamboat for you, like our newish daughter Astrid is, good luck go with you all... And may you airbrush never clog!

Congratulations again Phil...
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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 10:17 AM UTC
James,

thanks man! A really busy whole week and ... evening I spent over 20 minutes trying to fold the chassis of the new stroller.... finally found the answer on... a women's forum

the colour of interior hatches is not easy. I don't know if I'm right or not but what would be weird is the idea of the same colour as the base colour. I think there haven't been any vehicle found with a dark green hatch interior.

Phil,

thanks man I really appreciate what you say. I have few Astrids at work here in France. I find it really charming.

Thank you all guys

spit
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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 11:04 AM UTC
Hey...cigars for everyone. A big congratulations on the birth of your daughter Pawel

It would be great to see a KT wreck from the KT master, I will follow that build for sure.

Again congrats Pawel.

Rob
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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 01:11 PM UTC
Great job on your KT Pawel.
Suitably beat up and weathered !!!
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 03:36 PM UTC
Awsome Tiger 2s Pawel I think you nailed the zimmerit and the weathering is perfect. Can't wait to see the workhorse completed. I really enjoy your build logs.
Congratulations on the new baby !
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 02:26 AM UTC
thank you Ryan and John fro your kind comments. I hope to be able to show something in the near future.

spit
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Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 - 12:34 AM UTC
Thanks for clarifying what the barrel is a fantastic job.
Great family pz VI ausf B Tigers
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 12:05 PM UTC
you're welcome Felix, the barrel dark primer is not a very commonly known detail (at least not from a long time I think).

spit
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