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Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 12:38 PM UTC

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The base color for "yellow sand" is the problem right now for a match. I might switch gears and do a Mickey Mouse green camo just for the heck of it. Something different.



This is THE site for information on British Vehicle Camouflage, 1939-45:

http://www.mafva.net/other%20pages/Starmer%20camo.htm

-Doug
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Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 01:03 PM UTC
Hi Doug,
Thx, I hate for you to do all the dirty work on this, but I've run out of options in the reseach lately.
I've looked at the mapleleaf site and that is were the majority of the info. was find.
I hope this will provide some spark to get things going again with this.

Once again, Thx.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:43 AM UTC




Newest photo's on the build. Framework, drivelines, motor, axles installed.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:51 AM UTC
Nice work Brian, looking great Dude.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 06:04 AM UTC
Hey Brian!

Looking good. I've always liked the boxy appearance of these.

Not long after our discussion of camouflage colors, low and behold Jim R reviews a book that has color plates. Now I "see" what you were referring to.

Looking forward to seeing more.

Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 06:19 AM UTC
Martyn,
Thx.

Mike,
Also Thx, I've asked for opinions in the paint forum on the colors. I've got 4 different pattens do go with, 2 solid, and 2 MM. Still researching that part.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:36 PM UTC
Well,
Here it is, the whole shooting match ready for paint. See 25pdr. WIP post for the limber photo's.



Hope you like it.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:12 AM UTC
Alright Mr C. Hey that looks great! the extra little things you did to the gun looks smashing looking foward to seeing some paint on this!.

Great work!

BigfootV
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 06:52 AM UTC
UPDATE: Paint. Painted the front wheels. Did test strip of possible paint colors on the Quad canopy.


Colors, from left to right are the following:
Sand, Armor Sand, Afrika Grunbraun '41, Afrika Khakibraun '41, and Military Brown, far right is no paint.
Opinions? Thx.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:56 PM UTC
brain use the 4th one as a base coat then the 2nd one as the top layer
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 02:49 PM UTC
I really must acquire one of these. Your build looks great, Brian.

For the canopy, I would first decide how you intend to paint the vehicle, then pick colors accordingly. On a vehicle stationed in the desert for any length of time, the canvas would fade and lighten. A new vehicle would carry a new canopy. If the canopies were painted, that adds another wrinkle to the equation. Any color you choose will look darker after a wash, so take that into account if applicable.

I like to contrast light with dark colors and would probably pick the sand or armor sand as a starting point. I do not like the Military Brown.

-Doug
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 02:57 PM UTC
James, Thx.

Doug,
I did that has a template to see how close the paint was to the bare plastic, which is on the right. The Mil. brown was placed for MM comparasion. Too close to call.

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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 08:58 AM UTC
Great work Brian.
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Posted: Friday, May 01, 2009 - 02:58 PM UTC

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I did that has a template to see how close the paint was to the bare plastic, which is on the right. The Mil. brown was placed for MM comparasion. Too close to call.



Oops. That's what I get for not paying attention in class. I thought you were looking for a color to paint the canopy! In that case, Military Brown is a fine color. One of my favorites, really. A champion, head and shoulders above lesser colors. Superlative. (I have no idea what I'm talking about.)

-Doug
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 04:25 PM UTC
Doug,
It's cool.
BigfootV
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 03:57 AM UTC
Hey Gang-POST UPDATE:
I've had some personal issues come up over the last week, thankfully nothing that couldn't be handled with a few boxes of .50 cal. KIDDING People.

Anyways, I have some "freetime" now so I should have some paint on the Quad and the 25pdr. this weekend.

Sorry for the delays folks.

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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 10:58 AM UTC
Hi Brian,

I took these today as a reference for when I start my build, plus a load more of the quad, limber and gun. I asked the guide if he would open the door so I could get some photos of the interior and he did. When I've finished editing them, I will send you the link. I hope they are of some use to you before you start painting.

Andy



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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 12:06 PM UTC

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The base color for "yellow sand" is the problem right now for a match. I might switch gears and do a Mickey Mouse green camo just for the heck of it. Something different.



This is THE site for information on British Vehicle Camouflage, 1939-45:

http://www.mafva.net/other%20pages/Starmer%20camo.htm

-Doug





Finding the colors for mine drove me nuts! I went to the MAFVA site you listed and found the names of the colors. I then found the colors specified from LifeColor in their WWII British in the Middle East set. I found a cross reference to Vallejo with the dark brown. That produced this: http://armorama.com/forums/133238&page=1 It still doesn't seem right to me. Since doing this this I have learned that different paint was used in Africa which was the theater I wanted than in the Middle East. Then, I was stuck trying to find information on interiors. Recently, I got the Army Wheels in Detail Morris Commercial C8 Quad book which answered all my interior color questions. Of course it raised another question because I couldn't find the colors I used to paint mine in the plates in the book. I just ordered some Tamiya Dark Yellow XF-60 because it looks closer to what I thought it should be. This has been a challenging build simply because of the lack of information and questionable accuracy of what information I could find. I'm going to muddle on with the paint I applied and the second will be dark green and black MM camo.
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 12:38 PM UTC
Nice build man, i remember Shep Paine's 'building dioramas' had a pic of a dio Ron Volstad made of this kit. From memory it was all limbered up and set on a incline somewhere in Italy with intact Mediterranean styled houses as a backdrop.
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 04:36 PM UTC
Andy,
Thx for the photo's. Gives me an idea on what the British green color looks like.

Jim,
I've been going nuts here as well. I think I'm going to trust my gut on this. But, researching colors still just in case. Should start paint soon.

James,
I remember that dio in the book, but I think it was a 5.5 inch gun in tow, not the 25pdr. gun.
I'll have to look again.

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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 04:19 AM UTC
James,
It would seem I was incorrect with the last post. It was not a 5.5 inch gun, but as you stated a 25pdr. in the book "How to build Dioamas" First Edition by Sheperd Paine, Pg. 78.

I stand corrected. My bad.

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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 10:28 AM UTC
UPDATE: We have Paint, Finally. New photo's.
Frame with paint.



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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:03 AM UTC
S!
Great work.
Simple question: the tires were brushed or airbrushed?
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:06 AM UTC
Brian Great work with the paint it looks mint!

no brush marks or anything great!

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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:27 AM UTC
Great work Brian, really nice work on paint.