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Armored Wheeled Vehicles
eoinryan
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:56 AM UTC

Great incentive to try a conversion... I got a Stryker kit stashed somewhere that I had intended to convert into a Mowag Pirhana [excuse spelling]. Could drive me to insanity but that's not necessarily a bad thing right?

Eoin
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 10:03 AM UTC

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Yes, the M706 would be something I would consider as part of the group.

Tony


Tony;
I dont like the idea of pushing people out of a build but come on it says Stryker LAV not armoured cars?
whats up with that. M20's and M706's are not a Stryker or LAV, so that is a nobrainer question. There has aready been an Armoured car build. Lets keep the Campaign true
Tonyfr
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 07:57 AM UTC
Any suggestions when to start? I was thinking later this year or January 2011. Thoughts?

Tony
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 07:57 AM UTC

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Tony;I dont like the idea of pushing people out of a build but come on it says Stryker LAV not armoured cars?
whats up with that. M20's and M706's are not a Stryker or LAV, so that is a nobrainer question. There has aready been an Armoured car build. Lets keep the Campaign true



Tony,
Being that I am the 1 that requested to do a M-20 I will have to disagree here. The M-20 armor ranged from 3 mm on the hull floor, to 19 mm on the front hull and turret. This sounds like a light armored vehicle to me granted it is not a troop carrier like the Striker.
I don't know what Todd's theory of a LAV is, maybe a GMC 6X6 with armored plates welded to the sides. As far as the suggested that Armored Cars had a campaign, well some of us newer members were not around for that.
So since the campaign is not official yet and there are not a whole bunch of guy committed to this type build I would leave it as originally stated " Strikers and Light Armored Vehicles" give people more options then just Strikers.
Additionally if the 6 wheel of the M-20 are not enough I have a 8RadSd.Kfz232.
Just my opinion.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 08:20 AM UTC
I'm definetley in for this love the stryker vehicles, i will more than likely do an MGS. Hope you do this campaign
RotorHead67
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 05:25 PM UTC

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Tony;I dont like the idea of pushing people out of a build but come on it says Stryker LAV not armoured cars?
whats up with that. M20's and M706's are not a Stryker or LAV, so that is a nobrainer question. There has aready been an Armoured car build. Lets keep the Campaign true



Tony,
Being that I am the 1 that requested to do a M-20 I will have to disagree here. The M-20 armor ranged from 3 mm on the hull floor, to 19 mm on the front hull and turret. This sounds like a light armored vehicle to me granted it is not a troop carrier like the Striker.
I don't know what Todd's theory of a LAV is, maybe a GMC 6X6 with armored plates welded to the sides. As far as the suggested that Armored Cars had a campaign, well some of us newer members were not around for that.
So since the campaign is not official yet and there are not a whole bunch of guy committed to this type build I would leave it as originally stated " Strikers and Light Armored Vehicles" give people more options then just Strikers.
Additionally if the 6 wheel of the M-20 are not enough I have a 8RadSd.Kfz232.
Just my opinion.



Sal;
I dont think you could confuse the word Stryker, theres is no acronym. But the Campaign was for Stryker & LAV.
Not the acronym LAV which stands for Lightly Armored Vehicle.
But Proper Noun LAV as in ASLAV, LAV-25, LAV-AD,LAV C2,LAV-AT,Recovery LAV.
I wasn't disputing what are and what aren't Lightly armored vehicles.

Everyone that has refered to the Word LAV so far has chosen a Type model of the LAV family, not an Lightly Armored Vehicle.
ltb073
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 01:23 AM UTC

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Sal;
I dont think you could confuse the word Stryker, theres is no acronym. But the Campaign was for Stryker & LAV.
Not the acronym LAV which stands for Lightly Armored Vehicle.
But Proper Noun LAV as in ASLAV, LAV-25, LAV-AD,LAV C2,LAV-AT,Recovery LAV.
I wasn't disputing what are and what aren't Lightly armored vehicles.

Everyone that has refered to the Word LAV so far has chosen a Type model of the LAV family, not an Lightly Armored Vehicle.



Todd,
It seems then that what my theory of what an LAV was is not the proper meaning for this campaign, as I took it to mean Light Armored Vehicle. In that case this seams like it would be a modern vehicle campaign, which I haven't built anything other than WWII. So if the M20 or 8Rad Sd.Kfz232 is unacceptable builds here I will bow out.
kemo
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 01:32 AM UTC
Im in with a Stryker M1134 that has been sitting on the shelf since Feb. Send an update when you solidify the contest start time.
eoinryan
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 10:38 AM UTC

Hey folks,

Just to clarify, is the Mowag Pirahana is acceptable? There are no Mowag Pirahana kits on the market but seeing as the Stryker family originated from it, I'm assuming it's okay?

Eoin
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 03:43 PM UTC
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Todd,
It seems then that what my theory of what an LAV was is not the proper meaning for this campaign, as I took it to mean Light Armored Vehicle. In that case this seams like it would be a modern vehicle campaign, which I haven't built anything other than WWII. So if the M20 or 8Rad Sd.Kfz232 is unacceptable builds here I will bow out. [/quote]

Sal;
Please dont go!! This gives you the perfect opportunity to add a modern LAV (LOL), to your collection. Or even a Stryker, with the multitude of selected kits on the market. JUMP in an grab one. CHEERS. Todd
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 09:26 PM UTC

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Hey folks,

Just to clarify, is the Mowag Pirahana is acceptable? There are no Mowag Pirahana kits on the market but seeing as the Stryker family originated from it, I'm assuming it's okay?

Eoin



If it's the origional of the modern species I believe it should qualify.

From Wiki:
"The 8x8 US Army Stryker vehicle is derived from the Canadian LAV III which in turn is based on the Piranha, as is the LAV-25 family in service with the USMC. The Australian Defence Force also has its own modified version of the Piranha I 8x8 known as the ASLAV (Australian Light Armoured Vehicle). "

I'm sure I have some photos somewhere: I'll dig out, post on Photobucket and send you a link. There was also a good photo article last year in a magazine on the Irish Pirhanas in Chad. I have it at home: let me know if it will help.
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Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:34 PM UTC
Hi Todd,

I agree with you. Now exist many version LAV/Stryker family and also LAV-25, ASLAV and CDN Coyote /BIson family from many producer.
I think that this is interested Campaign.

Miloslav
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Posted: Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:46 PM UTC

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Hi Todd,

I agree with you. Now exist many version LAV/Stryker family and also LAV-25, ASLAV and CDN Coyote /BIson family from many producer.
I think that this is interested Campaign.

Miloslav



MILO;
I second the notion. Whats? our status do we have enough entries for a kick-off yet. I am surprised there hasn't been more interest. Will keep the fires burnin here. I'm waiting for the AFV Club M1132, cause I have started my Stryker collection with them. I CANT WAIT, Please hurry and get here Postman
Tonyfr
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Posted: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 03:28 AM UTC
Sorry for not responding earlier, I was on vacation with no internet or phone connections. When I was thinking about proposing this compaign I was looking for something more specific than last year's Wheels Campaign (that was very well run). I was thinking about wheeled vehicles that contained more armor. Hence, that is why I thought the M-20, M706 or Mowaag Pirahana would work. I will try to clarify in my formal proposal. I would also think the ZSL-92A or B would be a good inclusion.

I am thinking about proposing January 2011 start date. Thoughts?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 01:15 PM UTC
Tony;
I think the origional intention for Strykers and LAV's(proper) stays closer to the campaign thread base. The Lightly Armored Vehicle idea splits away from the LAV family of vehicles. This is not and ormoured car campaign nor an armor vehicle campaign per say. Its two major Families of vehicles the LAV & Stryker period. I think if you deviate from this you ruine the idea of the base for the campaign. Just my 2 pence.
GaryKato
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Posted: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 04:26 PM UTC
The term LAV has a loaded meaning, especially when paired with Stryker. I think if you want to include the M20 and M706, it would be best to rename the campaign to something like Armored Cars or Armored Wheeled Vehicles.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:18 AM UTC

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The term LAV has a loaded meaning, especially when paired with Stryker. I think if you want to include the M20 and M706, it would be best to rename the campaign to something like Armored Cars or Armored Wheeled Vehicles.



I would have to agree with Gary this way things will be clear as to what type of builds as to what is expected
Tonyfr
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 05:59 AM UTC
That's a good suggestion, Gary. I like the title "Armored Wheeled Vehicles". I think that more accurately describes what I had in mind. Hopefully, the LAV and Stryker participants will stay with the campaign.
GaryKato
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 06:15 AM UTC

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That's a good suggestion, Gary. I like the title "Armored Wheeled Vehicles". I think that more accurately describes what I had in mind. Hopefully, the LAV and Stryker participants will stay with the campaign.



I will change the name of this thread to reflect that.
MikeM670
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 09:33 AM UTC
Would the USMC LAV-R Light Armored Vehicle Recovery by Trumpeter, Kit # 00370 fill the bill? I just picked it up on clearence and would love to use it for the campaign.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 11:50 AM UTC

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Would the USMC LAV-R Light Armored Vehicle Recovery by Trumpeter, Kit # 00370 fill the bill? I just picked it up on clearence and would love to use it for the campaign.



Mike:
Well it appears now that with the Campaign name change it doesn't matter. Either way the LAV-R is allowed. It is an LAV type & an Armored Wheeled Vehicle. So your in like FLINT dude.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 12:54 PM UTC
I would love to join this campaign fellas, but I just don't know if it's going to happen. There wouldn't by any chance be a good Stryker or LAV in 1/48 would there?
MikeM670
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:02 PM UTC

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Would the USMC LAV-R Light Armored Vehicle Recovery by Trumpeter, Kit # 00370 fill the bill? I just picked it up on clearence and would love to use it for the campaign.



Mike:
Well it appears now that with the Campaign name change it doesn't matter. Either way the LAV-R is allowed. It is an LAV type & an Armored Wheeled Vehicle. So your in like FLINT dude.



Allright!! I'm in for this build.
GaryKato
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 07:08 PM UTC
Campaign approved. I set the start date to February 1. Here's where to enlist:
Armored Wheeled Vehicles Campaign
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:16 PM UTC
I presume start date should be Feb 1st 2011 and not 2010 as on the registration page ;-)