Armor/AFV: British Armor
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Hobby Boss Land Rover Defender WMIK
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 06:49 AM UTC

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By the way does anybody know if the British army is still using the CIP panels? The kit comes with one but not the best in the world and I have not seen many pictures with them installed.



Here are a few (taken in 2003 AFAIK )











HTH

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Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 07:28 AM UTC
I've been following this thread with great interest for when I get mine. You've done a great job, Christopher.

Frenchy, in the pics you posted the first one has all that netting on it.. do you have pics with a close-up of that type of netting? Would gauze with sprinkled "leaves" on it do the trick?

Thanks
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 09:57 AM UTC
Hi Hisham,
I think that's a barracuda camouflage netting.
Look here: https://armorama.kitmaker.net/news/6161
Or the difficult way: http://www.plasticwarfare.se/2007/10/how-to-make-realistic-barracuda-camouflage-netting-in-135/

Cheers,
Michael
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Posted: Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 09:12 PM UTC

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Frenchy, in the pics you posted the first one has all that netting on it.. do you have pics with a close-up of that type of netting? Would gauze with sprinkled "leaves" on it do the trick?



Here are some close-ups :







HTH

Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 03:22 AM UTC

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I have just purchased this kit and your info is excellent. Down here accessory kits of SA-80 and GPMGs are few. Is anyone able to steer me in the right direction of a good set and roughly were to get it



Thomo, pm sent
Hisham
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 03:23 AM UTC
Thanks, Michael and Frenchy.. I was afraid it might be the barracuda netting, but I just couldn't see it very clearly.. and was hoping for the type that could be replicated using gauze. Would it be possible to find that type of netting being used at all?

Thanks again
Hisham
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 04:34 AM UTC
On the WMIK Ive only seen barracuda netting. However on the older model landys serving with BAOR I've see them totally covered in netting with hessian strips (imagine a ghillie suit for a jeep!) so maybe there was a crossover period.
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 05:13 AM UTC
Here are some links to better close-ups of the British net on Flickr :


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjcr/294064924/sizes/z/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjcr/284905952/sizes/z/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/defensorfortis/1646185663/sizes/l/

HTH

Frenchy


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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 05:58 AM UTC

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Malcolm I rebuilt the mounts for the SA80 to bring them up to date with what is currently in service. Over on Military modelling web, there are a few that talk about some small problems with HB kit that are easy to fix, one of them being the rifle racks. Here is the link to the forum, it might help some.
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=49110

Chris



Many thanks Christopher

Malcolm
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 01:59 PM UTC

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Here are some links to better close-ups of the British net on Flickr :


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjcr/294064924/sizes/z/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjcr/284905952/sizes/z/


HTH

Frenchy




These two images that Frenchy has put up is MCS. Mobile Camouflage System.
Thermal blankets with the Barracuda Netting sown on to it and attached to the vehicle with Velcro.
I am working on a generic set that can be used for this.

Barracuda/MCS

Cheers Jason
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 06:24 PM UTC
I should have paid more attention to the pics and noticed that the net in the last one was different from the two others...

Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, April 01, 2011 - 07:24 PM UTC
@Jason... I saw that netting you're working on, and I'm waiting impatiently for it to go on sale commercially... Just please tell me that your online shop takes straight credit card sales and not just PayPal... cause we ain't got no stinkin PayPal here in Egypt

Hisham
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2011 - 02:53 PM UTC
Here is an update on my progress with the land rover so far. I’m just about finished with it and down to the last little bit of detail to paint up. This is the part that drags for me, once the main painting and weather is complete, painting all the stowage and figures take me a while to complete. I tried to keep all the weathering subtle as I could with nothing more than filters, washes, and a light dry brushing. I’m saving the tires and clear parts for last as not to damage and painting done. The gear is just a mixture of stuff gathered from Tamiya and what knot’s from the spare parts bin. Ammo cans came from AFV Club since the one supplied by HB had some nasty seems from where the parts are joined together. The figure came from Warriors old crew for the warrior. I know this figure may not be totally correct, but I have to work with what I have on hand. There will also be a figure from Dragon’s SBS set to round out the build.















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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2011 - 04:06 PM UTC
Just a quick pointer, it appears that you've forgotten a part of the roll cage structure. In Step 7. parts E9/E10 the reinforcement spar. From the photos of WMIK's i've seen, it appears to be an integral part of the roll cage structure. Nice build, looks great.
kruppw
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2011 - 04:13 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments. I do not have the roll cage glued in place yet along with the two side parts so I can finish all the stowage for the back bed. Makes it easier to remove the cage without everything being glued in place and help to limit breakage.
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Posted: Monday, April 04, 2011 - 10:42 PM UTC
looking good! nice amount of gear there. the M4 looks a little out of place though. if there are L85's in the rack, shouldn't the figure have one as well?
kruppw
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 03:20 AM UTC
Thanks Matt for the comments. I know the m4 looks out of place, but I have seen a few of these in british hands, not many though. I'm more likely will be replacing it with a sniper rifle insted, everything is still a work in progress one reason why nothing is glued down just yet.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 01:36 PM UTC
awesome. throw in the L96 if you have one. Or one of the new AA L129A1's. lokking forward to seeing this finished! I'll have to get one (or 2 or 3!) now!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 02:09 PM UTC
You read my mind Matt, I have both rifle I can use. I plan to replace the L96 that comes with the SBS set with trumpy's newer SR25 which is pretty much the same as a L129. Hope to have all this finished some time this week
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 06:07 PM UTC
Really outstanding Christopher!

Although my stash is too full and the time is too short, your build tempts me to buy this kit

To me it would be nice to depict the italian version

http://www.ams.vr.it/PIER/ArmWalkAround/JOB/Land%20Rover%20VAV/Land%20Rover%20Defender%20VAV.htm

However I think I'll wait the release of the hard top version

I don't know yet. Maybe with some modification (mostly the reproduction of the canvas roof) I'll be able to do the E.I. Land Rover Defender



Anyway, congrats again, I hope to see this your work finished soon


Cheers
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 06:43 PM UTC
Great work, impressive.


Cheers

Blackwater
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:49 PM UTC
Christopher,

Nice, I'm using this while I build mine. What colour did you use for the yellow? it looks spot on.

Craig
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 01:06 AM UTC
Seat belts for the front ?

Keith.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 03:28 AM UTC
Thanks everyone for the positive review. This kit is just great from HB when compairing it to some of their older kits,like their not so wonderful leopards.

Craig for the base color I used Vallejo Iraqi sand, followed by a filter of brown for dark yellow and then a filter of brown for desert yellow.

Keith I'm guessing there are suppose to be seat belts for the front seats. The frames for the seat have the equipment for the belts, but I did not make any for them. I'll more likely will make them on my next build. I think they are the retractable type like used in most cars. Without the frame for the drives seat you would have to make all the hardware for the belts.

Hopefully HB will follow up this release and make both the hard and soft top version. The possibilities are endless and throw in a left hand drive conversion and then you could make the Czech WMIK
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 09:09 PM UTC
Chris,

Thanks, I'll get some today.

Craig