I wonder if those are stateside? I've never seen early M4A1's in a snowy environment before....
Mike T
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modelguy2

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 04:48 AM UTC

exer

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 05:30 AM UTC
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I wonder if those are stateside? I've never seen early M4A1's in a snowy environment before....
Mike T
Well at least one early M4A1 made it as far as Nuremburg, There's a photo of it knocked out at the huge nazi stadium so it must have seen snow on the way

There are also a photo of one during the battle of the Bulge in one of Steve Zaloga's Sherman at War books- I can't remember if it's camouflaged though


PantherF

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 07:46 AM UTC
That's a VERY Early A1 there.
~ Jeff
~ Jeff
terrybarrett

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 09:37 AM UTC
If I recall correctly, that pic at the stadium is not authentic
Terry
Terry

GregCloseCombat

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 05:02 PM UTC
Thanks Paul and Joel. Trying to keep this white elephant fun!


dewaynemarr

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 05:58 PM UTC
i got a 1/48 scale m4a1 sherman that be great for this.maybe be great super detail it

hofpig

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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 11:40 PM UTC
A few start pics for my Sherman CDL.



Now all I need is my turret from Inside the armour and I can get on with it.
Paul



Now all I need is my turret from Inside the armour and I can get on with it.
Paul
terrybarrett

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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 12:42 AM UTC
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If I recall correctly, that pic at the stadium is not authentic
Terry
Well I guess I recalled incorrectly. Looked it up and it was just that the picture was reversed!

exer

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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 12:49 AM UTC
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If I recall correctly, that pic at the stadium is not authentic
Terry
I was thinking you weren't right because I have seen two different views of the same tank.
Here's one of them

hofpig

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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 11:21 PM UTC
Hi all, I have a quick question about M4A1 late hulls and I wondered if anybody could help ?
I know that some of the early ones had riveted lower hulls and a lot of the later ones were welded. I intend to add some welds to the lower hull base joint as that will be seen so I figure just putting a weld around 2-3mm from the bottom of the hull. Does that sound about right? I can't quite see it in the pics I have.
Paul
I know that some of the early ones had riveted lower hulls and a lot of the later ones were welded. I intend to add some welds to the lower hull base joint as that will be seen so I figure just putting a weld around 2-3mm from the bottom of the hull. Does that sound about right? I can't quite see it in the pics I have.
Paul

PantherF

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:38 AM UTC
Rivets, on an A1? If you can reference me as to what you are talking about I can help.
But I want to see what area we are speaking of first.
~ Jeff
But I want to see what area we are speaking of first.
~ Jeff

hofpig

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 05:40 AM UTC
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Rivets, on an A1? If you can reference me as to what you are talking about I can help.
But I want to see what area we are speaking of first.
~ Jeff
Jeff
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m4a1_psc.html
About nhalf way down the page under the pressed steel car company.
Paul.

Joel_W


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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 07:13 AM UTC
Just a quick update on the M4 Composite Hull PTO build. I finished the upper and lower hull sub assemblies, and glued them up, as well as gluing on the bogies and wheels. Then I applied a basic coat of my Tamiya OD mix.

Here's a close up of the front fenders. I opted to use the plastic kit parts rather then the PE ones. I thinned down the mounting bracket to a more scale appearance. I completely forgot to add the vertical PE brace, so I still need to do that.

Joel

Here's a close up of the front fenders. I opted to use the plastic kit parts rather then the PE ones. I thinned down the mounting bracket to a more scale appearance. I completely forgot to add the vertical PE brace, so I still need to do that.

Joel

PantherF

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 09:26 AM UTC
I guess if you are doing a very early A1 then those rivets must be there. I've just never seen too many hulls in that area.
These must be a "carry over" from the M3 Lee hull as things were not always a complete new feature with the M3/M4 line.
Man... that is truly some rivet counting!
~ Jeff
These must be a "carry over" from the M3 Lee hull as things were not always a complete new feature with the M3/M4 line.
Man... that is truly some rivet counting!

~ Jeff

Joel_W


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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 05:34 AM UTC
I'm building DML's M4 Composite Sherman, and I've run into a real issue; the turret. The kit comes with both a high bustle and a late model low bustle with loaders hatch and gun port. I want to do a low bustle version, so I did google search after google search.
The information seems to be all over the place from the low bustle turret with a loaders hatch and gun port being the most common, to the most common being a low bustle turret without a loaders hatch nor gun port.
At this point I'm pretty much convinced that the correct low bustle version is without the loaders hatch and gun port. Am I on the right track or should I include both hatches?
Joel
The information seems to be all over the place from the low bustle turret with a loaders hatch and gun port being the most common, to the most common being a low bustle turret without a loaders hatch nor gun port.
At this point I'm pretty much convinced that the correct low bustle version is without the loaders hatch and gun port. Am I on the right track or should I include both hatches?
Joel

Manchu34

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 12:24 PM UTC
I figured I add some of my work in progress of my M4A3E8. I've completed the major portions in the assemble. I'v hand painted the white outlined buffalo on the side of the hull, will post photos in a day or two. Still need to attach the various tools on the model, add the bumper numbers, stars, and the support braces for the side fenders(?).











Joel_W


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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 12:46 PM UTC
Edward, Rock solid build to date. Looking forward to your update with the decals and weathering.
Joel
Joel

ltb073

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 04:18 PM UTC
Some real nice progress being made and I have made some as well
Here is my Russian Lend Lease Sherman almost ready for primer



The figure came from the spare parts box and I hope to get some more done to it by the weekend

Here is my Russian Lend Lease Sherman almost ready for primer



The figure came from the spare parts box and I hope to get some more done to it by the weekend


SHAKY962

Joined: May 21, 2012
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 05:23 PM UTC
Sorry for the delay to post a progress in my Sherman, but i have a lot of work this days.....

Tomorrow I try to pick up more advances....

Tomorrow I try to pick up more advances....

Manchu34

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:24 PM UTC
Sal
It's looking nice can't wait to see it completed.
It's looking nice can't wait to see it completed.

Manchu34

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:30 PM UTC
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Edward, Rock solid build to date. Looking forward to your update with the decals and weathering.
Joel
Thanks Joel. I finished applying the decals earlier tonight. First time I used Archer Fine Transfer decals as well as the first time using dry transfer. I actually like them,they went on fairly easy. My only grip was I was trying to create the bumper code and the USA registration numbers by individually cut numbers. Talk about a pain.
It was almost as much of a pain


PantherF

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013 - 10:50 PM UTC
Hey Sal... is that the Italeri kit? Is that a step on the barrel near the mantlet I see? If so (and my eyes are not fooling me) it needs to be sanded down.
Otherwise the M4A3 is looking good!
I just made some room on the workbench so it's time for me to engage!
~ Jeff
Otherwise the M4A3 is looking good!

I just made some room on the workbench so it's time for me to engage!

~ Jeff

ltb073

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 01:06 AM UTC
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Hey Sal... is that the Italeri kit? Is that a step on the barrel near the mantlet I see? If so (and my eyes are not fooling me) it needs to be sanded down.
Otherwise the M4A3 is looking good!![]()
I just made some room on the workbench so it's time for me to engage!![]()
~ Jeff
Jeff it is the Academy Kit and the box say M4A2 but it comes with marking of this tank

So yes you are correct I will have to get rid of that step in the barrel

Does anyone know if the pictured tank is an A2 or A3 I do believe that it is the 76mm main gun


thewrongguy

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:38 AM UTC
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty confident that's a M4A2. If it's Soviet and a Sherman it's most likely a diesel.
Cheers
Jeff
Cheers
Jeff

Joel_W


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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:44 AM UTC
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Quoted TextEdward, Rock solid build to date. Looking forward to your update with the decals and weathering.
Joel
Thanks Joel. I finished applying the decals earlier tonight. First time I used Archer Fine Transfer decals as well as the first time using dry transfer. I actually like them,they went on fairly easy. My only grip was I was trying to create the bumper code and the USA registration numbers by individually cut numbers. Talk about a pain.
It was almost as much of a painas assembling all the individual track shoes for the tank.
Edward,
last time I used dry transfers was like 40 years ago. While I liked how easily they were to apply, and there was no clear decal film to be concerned with, getting them to lay down over rivets or into seams was a lot of work. Many times it never really turned out as well as with regular decals. Glad to hear that they worked well for you.
Joel
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