Polish city building with kv-1
Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 02:24 AM UTC
@ Nico
Thanks, crazy what an old sign post can turn into! I'm always on the look out of what people are throwing away, you never know it could be huge amount of styrene
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@ David
Thanks a lot, the kv-1 was a blast to build, I'm glad you like it. Here is a link to the build.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/199402&page=1And don't you worry I'll stick some timber in the rubbles allright! Must admit I should have probably donee this prior glueing....Still learning
Phil.
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 02:52 AM UTC
here is a peak.. I've glued the wood debris on and the corner lamp. After that I got to make some brick debris...how am I gonna do that? Maybe clay?... And afterward It will be finer dirt and a seal.
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio117.jpg)
Thanks for watching and comments.
Phil.
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 02:17 PM UTC
Covered thé whole ground with dustlike dirt. I'll post pics when it'll be dried And cleaned up.
Phil.
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CMOT
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 05:15 PM UTC
Silly question Phil but I assume you will be adding brick rubble to you base rubble?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 05:21 PM UTC
Yeah Phil, where Da bricks bro!?!?!?!?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 07:27 PM UTC
@asmodeuss – Philippe,
You could sprinkle bits of broken brick mixed in with kitty litter (the plaster type). Apply some railroad modeling scenic glue from a spray container to set all of the debris in place.
As far as the lamp post goes my vote is the same as Master WinBoggs. Now if that lamp post was here in Reseda you wouldn’t need to worry about it as it would have gotten lifted, broken or not, just saying!!!!
BTW, cool new avatar.
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Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 07:53 PM UTC
Hey ya Phil mate ,, here's an idea for you to make your rubble look very cool and its easy .. plaster of paris ..just make some up and pour it onto a plastic sheet and let it go completely dry ,, then smash the crap out of it lightly
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ya that makes prefect sense
Hitting it lightly with give you many different sizes and when its placed right it looks also exactly like the real thing .
I'm using this technique with this dio i am building for a customer .Here's a couple of pics .
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Phill
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Never trust a man who left alone with a tea cozy and doesn't try it on ( Billy Connolly )
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 02:25 AM UTC
Thanks for the tip Phill.
Darren and Gary, brick is already planned I've got lots of molding plaster and I'm building the mold this week. I just did not figure how many i make and if I go all the way with the molds...Depends on my motivation I presume
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I'll post an update today.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 03:10 AM UTC
Here is what I've done, with very dilluted exterior wood glue( it has a mat finish and it's harder when dry) I've covered the areas that I wanted to be covered with a dirt texture. Then using sanding dust from pine wood(very fine) I've covered those areas with a ``sifter``
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and it looks like this:
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio121.jpg)
After 12hrs I took of the sanding dust and i was left with a textured ground and sidewalk that are blending together slowly as a war torn city ground would be. Of course another pass is planned, I,ve done some test and 2 pass is to my likeing.
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio131.jpg)
Remember this is not the color it will be it is only the base materials. With this texture I presume that the pigments will grip easely in this 3d kind of ground.
Anyway enough jiberish
Thanks for watching and comments.
Phil.
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 05:59 AM UTC
Hey Phil,
Man that looks great!!! Nice use of the sawdust. Where did you get the sawdust..........Jest kiddin' bro!
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I cant wait to the next update!
Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 08:39 AM UTC
Phil thats a bloody brilliant result ,tied it all in so nicely and it leveled it all out too ..seriously liking how this is going so i'll be keeping my eye on this build
Phill
I know the voices ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas
Never trust a man who left alone with a tea cozy and doesn't try it on ( Billy Connolly )
Overkill is often very understated
CMOT
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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 08:50 AM UTC
Phil I like the weathering/detailing thus far as it really is starting to come together. Don't forget to add rubble on the inside of the building if it is destroyed as it will add to the overall effect.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 01:41 PM UTC
Thanks guys! I'll make sure to adress those situation: bricks and rubbles inside.
Nice to have peeps To watch my back!
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:14 AM UTC
The base ground is laid down. The second coat of sanding dust really blended everything together. Now it is time to finish my brick mold Lets hope it'll work
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And also work on the interior. I think this may take longer than I tought.
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio141.jpg)
I need to clean some parts that received some dirt but i'm glad with this ground texture...lets say 80%
Thanks for watching and comments.
Phil.
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:18 PM UTC
Very nice brother Phil! Are you going to place the lamp-post shade on the rubble or leave it off? What are you using to glue/fix the sawdust in place?
Gary
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:21 PM UTC
Nice job Phil from another Quebecer. I look forward to see this dia develop.
John
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:24 PM UTC
Thanks and Merci John! Nice to have a fellow Quebecquer on board.
I'll try to make us proud!
@Gary Yes sir! I'll place that lamp post shade in the rubbles...I've just forgot to put it in the pics
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hehehe
For the sanding dust I used dilluted exterior wood glue about 70% water.
Phil.
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 02:10 AM UTC
I've started to assemble my brick mold.
The length will be cut with a blade, or breaked as it is rubbles. I hope it will work like a ice cube mold...
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/brick_mold.jpg)
My hopes are not too high but if I don't try it I won't know!
Thanks for watching.
Phil.
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 03:34 AM UTC
Quoted Text
My hopes are not too high but if I don't try it I won't know!
Thanks for watching.
Phil.
There is no try....there is only DO - young padawan
Gary
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:16 PM UTC
Looking good. Keep going
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:36 PM UTC
Master Windu, I will do!
Thanks Babyloon, I'll be on and off this project for a while... Do not want to rush it.
Phil.
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2012 - 01:59 PM UTC
The mold went pretty good! I've used artform mold compound for casting the bricks and slate(for breaking pieces, thx Phill.) It retracted a tad lenghtwise but since I was casting long bars to cut bricks it was fine.
here what I got:
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio161.jpg)
Thanks for watching.
Phil.
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West-Vlaaderen, Belgium
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Posted: Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 09:31 PM UTC
Yo Phil,,
Nicely done the technique with sanding dust...your right it's come really nice together with two coats. Nice trick!
Keep this up!
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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2012 - 02:12 AM UTC
Thanks nico!
I'm working on the rubbles. Molding some bricks and slate. I'll update this week.
Phil.
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 04:01 AM UTC
Hey guys I worked a little on the dio... putted some debris inside and added bricks and rubbles on the front.
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio171.jpg)
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27833/dio181.jpg)
Thanks for watching gents!
Phil.
Modeling...
I rest my case.