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Trumpeter BMP-1 build up
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Posted: Friday, December 28, 2012 - 10:38 PM UTC
i've found another interesting 3 tones camo scheme



There's an incredibly exhausive walkaround here

http://dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?mode=P&vmode=T&p=1304&id=42366&tp=w
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Posted: Friday, December 28, 2012 - 11:09 PM UTC
Mauro - you are finding some really interesting camo for the BMP-1 - im looking forward to your build.

here is update -

a base coat of olive green straight onto plastic



some damage to the aluminium track guards



tacked in place with super glue before painting



this is the camo freehanded on with airbrush



more updates soon..

best
Mark
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Posted: Friday, December 28, 2012 - 11:29 PM UTC
This is a really fantastic build Mark and the camo scheme looks awesome- keep up the good work!
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Posted: Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 12:22 AM UTC
I agree with Karl! That's a really impressive job!


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a base coat of olive green straight onto plastic



How can you manage to avoid the primer coat?
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Posted: Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 01:16 AM UTC

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i've found another interesting 3 tones camo scheme



Talking about 3-tone camo... :

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/201421&page=1

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Posted: Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 01:24 AM UTC

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I know exactly what you mean - i really had a long think if it is appropriate to model such a subject given that this is where many people are at this moment fighting and dying while others just try to survive.

But I came to the conclusion that im trying to capture a part of current events in an accurate manner - not to glorify or make a political statement.

As an aside - despite the scale of the conflict in Syria - references to the AFV`s in the conflict are not as easy to find as I expected. In fact this one single photograph is the solitary reference I have for this particular BMP-1.

best
Mark



HI

I repainted a T-55 to represent one captured by the "rebels" and touched up a T-72 to represent one used by the Army.

It is the equipment that interests me not how it is used.

Many moons ago I did a Syrian BMP-1 using the old AEF set.

There are some pics out there but they are hard to find, I think there may be more video shots than stills from what I have found.

Looking fwd to seeing your progress on this as I have a couple on order.

Tom
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Posted: Saturday, December 29, 2012 - 01:45 AM UTC

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How can you manage to avoid the primer coat?



I never spray the famous primer coat over my models too and never had any trouble whatever the materials used in the kit. Let's say that a "thick" paint coat can do the job.

Good start on the painting Mark.

Olivier
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Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 12:04 AM UTC
Karl - many thanks very flattered to hear that from a top level modeller.

Hi Mauro and Olivier - yes if the plastic is light in colour and using either lacquer paints - Tamiya or Mr Color. You can paint straight onto the plastic. You can also do this with Life Color acrylics but they can easily be scraped off. If you think about it primer is nothing more than paint in any case?

Tom - very interested to see your builds - do you have a link

I am going to need some help with this one - especially from an Arabic speaker. I will post picture to explain later.

best
Mark
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Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 12:11 AM UTC

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I am going to need some help with this one - especially from an Arabic speaker. I will post picture to explain later.

best
Mark


I will try to help.
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Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:25 PM UTC
Jamal - many thanks !

My plan is to depict this BMP-1 as captured and in use by free Syrian forces. BMP-1 of the Islamic Dawn katiba in Maarat Al-Numaan

I only have a few photos -







The phrase is really what i need help with.

best
Mark
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2012 - 01:30 AM UTC
what is written on the right hand side of the BMP is "Kata'eb Fajr Al Islam" in Arabic كتائب فجر الاسلام, is that what you need?
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2012 - 01:33 AM UTC
Many thanks Jamal - im going to practice painting the arabic script and then you can check me !
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2012 - 02:01 AM UTC
Mark, your BMP is looking ace! I love it. What colours did you use for the sand. Also, did you just spray the green, then sand or did you lighten the green?
Thanks
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 12:54 PM UTC
Looking good Mark!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 05:12 AM UTC
thanks again - Euan I sprayed the camo colours starting with the sand brown and green next followed by grey/green.

sorry gents - I have just been slow to update the write-up of this !

So first step is to wet the surface and start scraping away paint - to give fine scratches



Of course this is "hairspray" technique. I use the AK worn effects fluid. You can get very fine and detailed effects by just being very intricate with the brush.

it can be subtle as well and i think this matches the photo references





I have some more to show you of course. But im working in partnership with a freind for something that could really add to this build ! but in may take some time - please have patience.

best
Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 08:42 AM UTC
Looks really good Mark, the effect is really smart. Very nice build.


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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 08:13 PM UTC
I love your paint scheme, very impressive

S
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 11:43 PM UTC
Mark- this is coming along real well, the chipping looks spot-on. By the way- are you planning a dio or just the BMP itself?
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 12:02 AM UTC
Great job!!!

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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 11:38 PM UTC
Guys - sorry again for late reply s ! I am waiting to develop something new that will really enhance this build.

Dan, Steven and Mauro - many thanks

Karl - many thanks - your dio is awesome !! I am just doing the BMP for now - and a base in the future.

very small update -

oil dot to create fading and colour patina:-







not so much more weathering after this -

and basic painting of the tracks using a new set from lifecolor



assembly next and then i am really hoping I can develop the most important aspect.

best
Mark
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 12:06 AM UTC
I just found this thread and it looks amazing! Very good job on the camo and it looks like you are going the right direction with weathering. What airbrush did you use to apply the camo pattern?
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 12:12 AM UTC
Hi Mark - the camo and weathering so far looks amazing! I really like the colours and worn look on much of the Syrian equipment and you've got it spot on.
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 03:27 AM UTC
Weathering is looking real good!
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 09:02 AM UTC
sorry again - long overdue replys

Matt - thanks I use 0.2mm Iwata HP + for "drawing" out the camo pattern.

Alex Clark - are you the same Alex Clark that produces the incredible 72 scale uber works - that basically look absolutely incredible - and even more so are painted and weathered in a way that defies belief!! is so I love your stuff man !!

Karl - cheers my man.

Ok just final assembly really - the masterclub tracks are on, the resin sprockets will not fit as is - they stick out to far. So I had to shave down the inner profile to get them to fit. The tracks are on a light swipe with some sandpaper for contact patches. But I will tone that down later.


Just really a couple of applications of oil washes. Im using this "engine grease" oil at the moment with Abteilung white spirit as a wash. The subject vehicle is looking more oily and filthy rather than dusty - so trying to depict that look.



The other area is exhaust masked off and sprayed nato black and again washes of oil. I let the oil sit for an hour or so and any tide marks or heavy concentrations are blended with a brush slightly damp with thinners


other photos of where I got up to --







nice low shot of how this this thing appears in reality



promise to "pull finger out" now and get moving with it.

Also want to say big thanks to my friend Chadi whose help with this is very much appreciated.

best
Mark
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 11:16 AM UTC


((((( WOW ))))) GREAT BUILD !!

I WISH MY JUNK LOOKED HALF THAT GOOD

OOOOHHHH WELLL PRACTICE,-PRACTICE,-PRACTICE !!!

CHEERS; MIKE.