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Waiting for a new steam locomotive in 1/35th
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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 07:00 AM UTC
Well done Kanonen und Flakwagen from Trumpeter. EXACTLY like the one that appears in the movie "the Train".

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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 07:14 AM UTC
Und for da Field Kommandeur mit the slightly smaller budget: A FlakWagen dat still packs a lot of firepower!

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Posted: Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 08:56 AM UTC

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That particular wording was only intended to mean the next already existing model I would be talking about, but you are the second person to miss-interrupt what I was saying. I wish I could go back and edit those earlier posts, I thought if you created the thread in the first place that you could but it appears not.

I tried.


MISS-INTERRUPT! PRICELESS!!! Is that anything like "Miss-remember"..? You're RIGHT!!! I MISSED IT!!! (what did I miss...) The closer I look at that 2-8-2, the less I think that it's US-made... Looks kind of German, maybe French? OK, Mike- You WIN! What is that thing? I know! It's an ALIEN STEAM LOCOMOTIVE!!!
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Posted: Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 09:09 AM UTC

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This is a great idea that I hope gains traction with model companies. I'd love to see an ALCo RS-1 in 1/35.

Just a thought, why not lobby for locos in 1/48? American prototypes are readily available in 1/48 - O scale.


Well as a little pun Mirror Models in now offering a European Trolley Car in 1/35 scale plastic so you could say we HAVE gained Traction.

Traction being a US expression for anything running on overhead electric power. ( If it does not generate its own power internally - it's Traction.).


Doesn't MINIART (or is it ICM) have a European Trolley in the works? I believe TESTORS/HAWK made an "O" scale-1/48 "San Francisco" trolley at one time back in the 1960s? How's that for "off-track"? Didja get that, huh? Didja-Didja? Huh-Huh???
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Posted: Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 09:37 AM UTC
I got it, I got it!

I know I said Mirror Models but it might have been MINIART that are doing the European Trolley. I saw it announced somewhere here on Armorama but now I cannot find it.
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Posted: Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 09:41 AM UTC

Photo Credit: DarkWizard83

Here is a link to a great recounting of the story of "Anzio Anne" aka Leopold. I had no idea how the Germans went about hiding the guns and the decoys they built and finally how one came to be at the APG.


http://www.unmuseum.org/anzio_annie.htm
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 12:16 AM UTC
Considering Britain's role in developing the railways, I would like to see some pre war British rolling stock and a suitable shunting locomotive in 1/35 scale.

What would also be excellent in 1/35 scale would be a WW1 WDLR tractor like the MR 20hp and 40 hp tractors, plus a few carriage types as well.





I built a couple of Southern Railway wagons in O scale that might at a push pass muster.





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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 02:47 AM UTC
Alan's pics remind me of the French-built Billard T75 narrow gauge diesel shunter :


This shunter was used on military railways in WW1 and later in WW2 on the Maginot Line.

U-Models has released a resin 1/35th scale kit of this machine (ex-13e Dragon molds) :


and a matching flat car :



U-Models website

H.P.
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Posted: Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 05:30 AM UTC
Hi HP,

Thanks for that. Folks, If your checking out U Models folks you might want to visit Blast Models too. I haven't communicated with Rodolfo for some time but judging by the Blast site there is a partnership of sorts on some of the kits and you'll see a much greater choice of items.

Check under resin kits - U Models

http://www.phpshopxml.com/blamod.shop/CID/b70cc5235a9cf307c177e6eca627d22a/function/itemSearchResultPageDisplay/shopSearchType/familySubFamilyCode/shopSearchData/CONVUP|UMODEL/shopItemSearchLimit/0

There are about 1000 plus images over on IWM site connected with the light railways. They played a key role in the Great War

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/search?query=Light%20railway&items_per_page=10&page=24&submit

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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 03:59 AM UTC

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I got it, I got it!

I know I said Mirror Models but it might have been MINIART that are doing the European Trolley. I saw it announced somewhere here on Armorama but now I cannot find it.


Hi!!! Don't feel bad, I couldn't find it either. PMMS in Australia has a nice picture of it under "New Kits". And yes, it IS done by MINIART...
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 06:18 AM UTC
That's probably just the shell and you must install in on a train chassis... right?

That looks great! I'll have to think about it.



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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 06:31 AM UTC

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That's probably just the shell and you must install in on a train chassis... right?


It's a full kit (http://www.miniart-models.com/index.htm?/38001.htm )
of a German tram car built in 1913 (!) by MAN/SSW :



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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 07:29 AM UTC
Oh, that's nice too but I was asking about the U Models kit.

I want to do some train stuff next year and that one I cannot get of my mind.



~ Jeff
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 08:37 AM UTC
No, it is the full kit, very beautiful. It contains the shell, interior and full running gear. (Unpowered of course but more than enough detail to satisify me!!!!!)

Oh, I see Frenchy has once again come to the rescue with a photo and a link!
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 09:09 AM UTC

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Oh, that's nice too but I was asking about the U Models kit.


Sorry for the confusion AFAIK the U-Models shunter is a full kit :


but it's possible to modify it and add a AM electric motor : http://www.flickr.com/photos/nystrup_grus/sets/72157622513064266/

PS : I stand corrected on the T75 : it wasn't used in WW1. It was built at the end of the 30's.

Talking about narrow gauge rolling stock, Scale Link makes some British WW1 engines and freight cars in 1/32nd scale : http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Narrow_Gauge__60cm__Railway.html

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 09:21 AM UTC
Thanks guys! I have some thinking to do.



~ Jeff
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2013 - 08:06 PM UTC
Thanks for the links HP. Pity about the scale difference (1/32).

I'll have to look at the U models offering more closely.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - 12:04 AM UTC
Hi All,

We've been reading this thread with interest, so it's time for a market query. We'd be more than happy to produce an S-160 in 1/35 scale. It would be a resin and photoetch kit. The length of an S-160, with tender, is about 21.25" in length, and that would make the kit comparable to our line of cruisers. The price would therefore be in the $275-$350 range. So, the question is, would there be demand for a kit considering what the price would be? Thanks for replying.

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Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - 08:26 AM UTC
Commander Models has an impressive catalog. Guys, check it out!

(Anybody need a 1/2 ton WC 21? Or something in a USMC M-2-4 International light truck?)

Click below.

http://ironshipwrights.com/
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 02:24 AM UTC
OK folks, we need some feed back to Commander Models. I would certainly consider it. Would prefer plastic but would have to consider getting a S-160 any way that I could!
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 02:28 AM UTC
Great World War 1 posts. I am doing research on a small WWI monorail to possibly construct a dio.

I highly recommend a little book entitled "Railways and War Before 1918" Amizon has it for just a few bucks. GREAT drawings of popular WWI railway equipment, Mostly 2 foot gauge stuff but I will remind everyone HO gauge track scales out very close to 2 foot gauge in 1/35th scale.

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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 03:38 AM UTC
Video of what appears to be a S-160 on static display at Fort Eustis, VA. August of 2012:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Steam+Locomotives+on+display+at+Fort+Eustis%3f&view=detail&mid=A6F27B46F92F4FE19576A6F27B46F92F4FE19576&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR&qpvt=Steam+Locomotives+on+display+at+Fort+Eustis%3f
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 04:49 AM UTC
Typical cut-away of US 2-8-0 built for export:

Note leaf springs over each driving axle and equalizer linkage connecting all springs including the front pony wheels to insure all axles carry the locomotive weight equally.
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 04:56 AM UTC
S-160 somewhere in Europe - its' smokebox front has been removed probably to work on leaky front flues.
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 05:53 AM UTC

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Typical cut-away of US 2-8-0 built for export:

Note leaf springs over each driving axle and equalizer linkage connecting all springs including the front pony wheels to insure all axles carry the locomotive weight equally.

No, that is a very similar British locomotive built after the war to help rebuild the European Railways. It was based on a British WW2 2-8-0 used by the War Department which was similar to the S-160.
Note, there were TWO companies called Vulcan building locomotives at the time, Vulcan Foundry in England and Vulcan Iron Works in the USA.
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