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Rail Guns and Howitzers Campaign
27-1025
Joined: September 16, 2004
KitMaker: 1,281 posts
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Posted: Sunday, January 04, 2015 - 03:51 AM UTC
I think I'll be doing this.
mmeier
Joined: October 22, 2008
KitMaker: 1,280 posts
Armorama: 1,015 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 04, 2015 - 02:20 PM UTC
Since I am building three LAVs in "parallel" (a LAV-M for this one, an -AD for "What the Flak" and a -25 for "8 Wheels") I have startet a gallery of all three. If that is not good enough, I can separate the pictures:
Starting shots and the -AD so far, -M and -25 pictures will follow later on the day
Starting shots and the -AD so far, -M and -25 pictures will follow later on the day
Namabiiru
Associate Editor
#399
Joined: March 05, 2014
KitMaker: 2,888 posts
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Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 12:43 PM UTC
I finally decided on this as my entry:
I ordered the Lion Roar mesh at the same time as the kit without realizing the AFV Club kit has perfectly acceptable PE mesh included. Oh, well. Guess I have a spare now.
I ordered the Lion Roar mesh at the same time as the kit without realizing the AFV Club kit has perfectly acceptable PE mesh included. Oh, well. Guess I have a spare now.
djohannsen
Joined: June 24, 2005
KitMaker: 364 posts
Armorama: 355 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 10, 2015 - 03:54 PM UTC
Change in plan for me... I've got the Academy M12, along with the Eduard set and Legend engine and transmission sets. However, I'm currently working on several M4 variants, so I have gone in a completely different direction. Instead, I've ordered the old Trumpeter British 155mm AS90 Self-Propelled Howitzer. I'll be building it straight out of the box, but am still looking forward to it as I've never built any modern armor. Also, with no detailing (and no references, even if I wanted to go all in), I really hope to be able to somewhat quickly get it to completion.
Dave
Dave
hofpig
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,330 posts
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Posted: Saturday, January 10, 2015 - 09:46 PM UTC
A few kit pics for the start.
Just the kit plus the sandbags!
Paul
Just the kit plus the sandbags!
Paul
Dukie99
Joined: March 10, 2014
KitMaker: 9 posts
Armorama: 9 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 11:18 PM UTC
Hi there,
This is my entry for this campaign: 2S19 from Trumpeter. It will be built OOB unless I can find a metal barrel to replace the plastic.
This is my entry for this campaign: 2S19 from Trumpeter. It will be built OOB unless I can find a metal barrel to replace the plastic.
IronOwl
Joined: January 07, 2013
KitMaker: 572 posts
Armorama: 302 posts
Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 09:02 AM UTC
am back in bought another M-12 Kit and Barrel the one I built with my grandson was a learning experience for the both of us looking forward to getting started on this really soon.
Sascha(ironowl)
Sascha(ironowl)
Armored76
Joined: September 30, 2013
KitMaker: 1,615 posts
Armorama: 1,500 posts
Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 12:58 PM UTC
Great choice, Dukie99!!! I have that on my wishlist, as well so it'll be nice to follow along your build.
Cheers,
Cristian
Cheers,
Cristian
IronOwl
Joined: January 07, 2013
KitMaker: 572 posts
Armorama: 302 posts
Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 03:20 AM UTC
Cant remember if I posted a pic of the kit so here it is.
Sascha(Ironowl)
Sascha(Ironowl)
IronOwl
Joined: January 07, 2013
KitMaker: 572 posts
Armorama: 302 posts
Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 03:23 AM UTC
here is where I got to as of today. so fat this kit has went together great 
Sascha(ironowl)
IronOwl
Joined: January 07, 2013
KitMaker: 572 posts
Armorama: 302 posts
Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 03:25 AM UTC
A Second Blurry shot
sascha(Ironowl)
sascha(Ironowl)
PantherF
Joined: June 10, 2005
KitMaker: 6,188 posts
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 03:31 AM UTC
Please let me know how that one goes together Sascha, I've been looking real hard at it. I see you have an aftermarket barrel and some sheet of PE so let me know how they interact with the kit and what problems you run into.
You've got a good start on it and mine is next tomorrow!
Jeff
You've got a good start on it and mine is next tomorrow!
Jeff
djohannsen
Joined: June 24, 2005
KitMaker: 364 posts
Armorama: 355 posts
Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 09:17 PM UTC
Here's the pre-start "glory shot:"
As I mentioned previously, straight out of the box. I tend to get sidetracked and finish very few projects, so I'm hoping that by keeping it simple this one will see the finish line (and maybe some public peer pressure, as well).
As I mentioned previously, straight out of the box. I tend to get sidetracked and finish very few projects, so I'm hoping that by keeping it simple this one will see the finish line (and maybe some public peer pressure, as well).
djohannsen
Joined: June 24, 2005
KitMaker: 364 posts
Armorama: 355 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2015 - 08:39 PM UTC
Well, a large part of the tedium is done (cleaning-up suspension and road wheels is never high on my "fun list"). The kit has decent detail (though maybe a bit soft by today's standards), and you can also see that I had to do a bit of "old fashioned modeling" to fill the very pronounced sink marks on the suspension arms. Still, not a bad kit at all, especially as I got it to my door for under $20.
Here's where things stand:
Here's where things stand:
TacFireGuru
Joined: December 25, 2004
KitMaker: 3,770 posts
Armorama: 2,263 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 - 05:03 AM UTC
More done. Initial OD paint and sub-assemblies. Some things need to be painted separately before assembly and I get the camo paint done. I've ordered a set of Archer Aiming Post decals...hope those work out as I really don't want to paint them by hand.
Mike
Mike
JoeOsborne
Joined: October 08, 2013
KitMaker: 111 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 - 06:18 AM UTC
Howdy All,
Here is my entry. Will just be adding the barrel from Barrel Depot.
Here is my entry. Will just be adding the barrel from Barrel Depot.
Namabiiru
Associate Editor#399
Joined: March 05, 2014
KitMaker: 2,888 posts
Armorama: 1,920 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 06:19 AM UTC
Question for the crowd.
I popped open my SturmTiger the other night to sort of preview what I'd be up against, and I see that the instructions call for Zimming various parts of the fuselage. I'm too cheap to by the AM resin zimm upgrade for this kit, but I've also never tried my hand at zimm before and am abit nervous about mucking it up with a campaign on the line.
So I got to thinking about how I might tackle the Zimm in a way that doesn't result in an irreperable mess, and I hit on an ide I thought I would run past everyone to get their thoughts. Here it is:
Instead of spreading Zimm material on the tank, slaving to get a uniform thickness, then trying to achieve a consistent pattern, I thought perhaps I could roll out a very thin sheet of epoxy--just as if I were making an epoxy tarp--and then apply the zimm texture off the tank. Once the epoxy is hardened I can just cut out the pieces, trim to fit as required, and glue to the tank.
Does anyone know if this technique has been tried before, and if so, any lessons learned from the experience?
I popped open my SturmTiger the other night to sort of preview what I'd be up against, and I see that the instructions call for Zimming various parts of the fuselage. I'm too cheap to by the AM resin zimm upgrade for this kit, but I've also never tried my hand at zimm before and am abit nervous about mucking it up with a campaign on the line.
So I got to thinking about how I might tackle the Zimm in a way that doesn't result in an irreperable mess, and I hit on an ide I thought I would run past everyone to get their thoughts. Here it is:
Instead of spreading Zimm material on the tank, slaving to get a uniform thickness, then trying to achieve a consistent pattern, I thought perhaps I could roll out a very thin sheet of epoxy--just as if I were making an epoxy tarp--and then apply the zimm texture off the tank. Once the epoxy is hardened I can just cut out the pieces, trim to fit as required, and glue to the tank.
Does anyone know if this technique has been tried before, and if so, any lessons learned from the experience?
TacFireGuru
Joined: December 25, 2004
KitMaker: 3,770 posts
Armorama: 2,263 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2015 - 12:16 AM UTC
Not too much left before I have to choose the camo pattern:
The kit's instructions don't cover the springs very well. Should each side have 4 or 2 or what? There are different diameter springs too. My reference pictures show two distinct springs for each side. So, that's what I went with. Once I've allowed the mounts to fully dry, I'll lower the barrel and at the same time push the bottom spring down further. Once the glue sets, I can then even the two springs out.
Mike
The kit's instructions don't cover the springs very well. Should each side have 4 or 2 or what? There are different diameter springs too. My reference pictures show two distinct springs for each side. So, that's what I went with. Once I've allowed the mounts to fully dry, I'll lower the barrel and at the same time push the bottom spring down further. Once the glue sets, I can then even the two springs out.
Mike
mmeier
Joined: October 22, 2008
KitMaker: 1,280 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 08:06 AM UTC
Some progress done on the three lil piglets er LAVs
BravoTwoZero
Joined: June 11, 2009
KitMaker: 461 posts
Armorama: 370 posts
Posted: Monday, February 09, 2015 - 11:35 AM UTC
Hello everyone,
This is my entry for this campaign. The 1/72 scale Pit-Road model of an IJA 28cm Howitzer.
Thanks,
Joseph
This is my entry for this campaign. The 1/72 scale Pit-Road model of an IJA 28cm Howitzer.
Thanks,
Joseph
JoeOsborne
Joined: October 08, 2013
KitMaker: 111 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 09:03 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Question for the crowd.
I popped open my SturmTiger the other night to sort of preview what I'd be up against, and I see that the instructions call for Zimming various parts of the fuselage. I'm too cheap to by the AM resin zimm upgrade for this kit, but I've also never tried my hand at zimm before and am abit nervous about mucking it up with a campaign on the line.
So I got to thinking about how I might tackle the Zimm in a way that doesn't result in an irreperable mess, and I hit on an ide I thought I would run past everyone to get their thoughts. Here it is:
Instead of spreading Zimm material on the tank, slaving to get a uniform thickness, then trying to achieve a consistent pattern, I thought perhaps I could roll out a very thin sheet of epoxy--just as if I were making an epoxy tarp--and then apply the zimm texture off the tank. Once the epoxy is hardened I can just cut out the pieces, trim to fit as required, and glue to the tank.
Does anyone know if this technique has been tried before, and if so, any lessons learned from the experience?
Mark,
This should work fine as long as there are no curves to deal with. The flat sides of the Sturmtiger might work. Just not too sure on the rest of the kit.
I'm not a big fan of handmade zimm as I've never been able to make it look right to scale. Although I've seen many that have made it work.
In the past when I wanted to build a kit requiring zimm I either bought the upgrade (resin or photoetch) or bought the Dragon kits with the zimm molded on.
If you might still think about buying the zimm, Spruebrothers has the Eduard zimm for $11.49 US. You can see it here:
http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/edu35963.htm
Good luck!
panzerbob01
Joined: March 06, 2010
KitMaker: 3,128 posts
Armorama: 2,959 posts
Posted: Sunday, February 15, 2015 - 12:26 AM UTC
I highly recommend using the resin zimm products, or even the Tamiya-type embossed paper zimm product, over any PE zimm product... PE has no chance of getting near scale thickness for a zimm coat; the relief or depth of zimm was certainly 1/2 US inch or more thick and generally appears to be greater than that on the remaining zimm'd specimens residing in museum collections. Remembering that 1.0 US inch in 1/35 scale = 0.029 inch (actually just under 29 thousands), a 1/2 inch coat would be 0.5 inch x 0.029, or 0.0145 or about 14.5 thousandths thick... PE is between 0.0025 and perhaps 0.0045... and the etching (actual pattern relief) perhaps half that, or maybe between 0.0015 and 0.0025! So the best a PE zimm kit could do might be a scale relief of perhaps 1/10 or 1/12th inch! Waaaaay too shallow to get anywhere close to what scale zimm looks like (or should look like) 
Just a suggestion... I KNOW the challenges of DIY zimm! "Been there, done that, should get a T-shirt for it!"
but the PE just doesn't get near there, for me!
Bob
Just a suggestion... I KNOW the challenges of DIY zimm! "Been there, done that, should get a T-shirt for it!"
but the PE just doesn't get near there, for me!Bob
JoeOsborne
Joined: October 08, 2013
KitMaker: 111 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Sunday, February 15, 2015 - 12:44 AM UTC
Bob,
Completely agree with you on the quality of the resin zimm versus PE zimm.
What I was responding to was Mark C's (ahem) frugality
when it comes to purchasing zimm. The Atak resin zimm, which would probably be the best, is running around $25 US.. about twice the PE zimm.
So choices are:
1. DIY zimm.... and everything that comes with THAT decision :-)
2. PE Zimm for abut $12 bucks, but not exact to scale..
3. Atak Zimm for around $25 US.....
or you decide that this was one of the five Sturmtigers produced in December 1944 - after Zimmerit was discontinued!!
Completely agree with you on the quality of the resin zimm versus PE zimm.
What I was responding to was Mark C's (ahem) frugality
when it comes to purchasing zimm. The Atak resin zimm, which would probably be the best, is running around $25 US.. about twice the PE zimm. So choices are:
1. DIY zimm.... and everything that comes with THAT decision :-)
2. PE Zimm for abut $12 bucks, but not exact to scale..
3. Atak Zimm for around $25 US.....
or you decide that this was one of the five Sturmtigers produced in December 1944 - after Zimmerit was discontinued!!
mmeier
Joined: October 22, 2008
KitMaker: 1,280 posts
Armorama: 1,015 posts
Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 - 06:52 AM UTC
LAV-M finished as far as it gets without an idea for mounting it
AlanL
Joined: August 12, 2005
KitMaker: 14,499 posts
Armorama: 11,675 posts
Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 02:51 PM UTC
Hi Guys,
interesting range of kits showing up here, keep up the good work.
Al
interesting range of kits showing up here, keep up the good work.
Al
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