I know this has probably been asked many times before but I picked up Tamiyas Mid production Tiger 1 about 2 weeks ago. Obviously it doesn't have zimmerit but I've read online that around 115 Mid production Tigers didn't have zimmerit. Is that true?

Also I have a built Late production Tamiya Tiger 1. As far as I can make out all Late production Tiger 1's had zimmerit but is there a chance a few didn't?

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I know this has probably been asked many times before but I picked up Tamiyas Mid production Tiger 1 about 2 weeks ago. Obviously it doesn't have zimmerit but I've read online that around 115 Mid production Tigers didn't have zimmerit. Is that true?

Also I have a built Late production Tamiya Tiger 1. As far as I can make out all Late production Tiger 1's had zimmerit but is there a chance a few didn't?

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Some Tigers with cast cupola but with dished, rubber-rimmed road wheels were delivered without Zimmerit. "Tigers in Combat" (volumes 1 & 2) by Wolfgang Schneider, have delivery records that could help you chase down units likely to have received them. Very few are identifiable in photos. Tigers with steel wheels were all delivered with Zimmerit. Its use was discontinued the month after Tiger I production ended.

There was a small amount of Mid Tigers without Zimmerit, but they were quite different to the Tamiya kit. They had Feifels, S-mines, a pistol port and other differences. You'd have to cross the kit with an Early kit.

David

I got both the "tigers in combat" books here with me in Kuwait, if you are looking for something specific.

Have a look here

http://missing-lynx.com/panzer_facts/pftiger.htm

Do you know what the other differences are? Did any of them have the middle placed headlight on the front like the Tamiya kit for instance?

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Do you know what the other differences are? Did any of them have the middle placed headlight on the front like the Tamiya kit for instance?

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There are so many differences that it would be impractical for any manufacturer to release a kit representing all of the Mid Tigers, and that's why Tamiya picked the later end of the range. The tracks, for example, were the Early kind.

There would be one headlight, one the hull roof by the driver; or even two headlights, like in an Early Tiger.
The track cable on the hull side would have the Early layout.
There would be the full S-mine installations.
There would be the later Feifel gear, and it would be installed.
There would be a toolbox on the rear left, just like an Early Tiger had.
There would be a pistol port in the turret wall.
There would be no travel lock on the rear right hull.
And so on...

David

Well, if you find that photo, please let me know. It would change our timeline of Tiger design.

David

They went from two headlights to one, very early in the Mid period, but that one headlight was still beside the driver.



It was only later that they moved it to the center. I'm sure there was Zimmerit by then. (But, the two welded headlight bases were still on the hull roof.)

David

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They went from two headlights to one, very early in the Mid period, but that one headlight was still beside the driver.



It was only later that they moved it to the center. I'm sure there was Zimmerit by then. (But, the two welded headlight bases were still on the hull roof.)

David

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Drat. So it looks like picking up Tamiya's Mid Tiger to do one of the non zimmerit versions wasn't such a good idea. I was hoping to do a quick build but I don't know what to do with it now as I can't be bothered putting zimmerit on it.

I might put it on the backburner and get one of Dragons latest kits with zimmerit.

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They went from two headlights to one, very early in the Mid period, but that one headlight was still beside the driver.



It was only later that they moved it to the center. I'm sure there was Zimmerit by then. (But, the two welded headlight bases were still on the hull roof.)

David

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Drat. So it looks like picking up Tamiya's Mid Tiger to do one of the non zimmerit versions wasn't such a good idea. I was hoping to do a quick build but I don't know what to do with it now as I can't be bothered putting zimmerit on it.

I might put it on the backburner and get one of Dragons latest kits with zimmerit.

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You could, or you might experiment with Tamiya's new self adhesive Zimmerit sheets--they sound pretty painless, though I haven't had occasion to try them yet.

I may be kinda late in this one. As i was informed and confirmed in research that many late to final production tigers arrived zimm-less and still in "primer" stage and had to be field equipped..a bucket with the smutz and a schpazle and applied like spetzle.

I may be kinda late in this one. As i was informed and confirmed in research that many late to final production tigers arrived zimm-less and still in "primer" stage and had to be field equipped..a bucket with the smutz and a schpazle and applied like spetzle.

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I may be kinda late in this one. As i was informed and confirmed in research that many late to final production tigers arrived zimm-less and still in "primer" stage and had to be field equipped..a bucket with the smutz and a schpazle and applied like spetzle.

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Sorry, but no. No late or final Tiger I's were delivered without zimmerit to their units. As Gerald pointed out above, application was a somewhat involved process and prob only rarely (if ever) was carried out by the maintenance units.