Bury My Heart at Stalingrad

#424
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, November 11, 2018 - 09:18 PM UTC
Maybe these will be helpful:
Russian medal for the defence of Stalingrad:

German badge for Stalingrad:
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
Sofiya, Bulgaria
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 01:21 AM UTC
Hello everyone!
Gaz the idea of Stalingrad I like. Count me in.
I have a question: The fighting on the Don River between September 1942 and February 1943 would have answered the subject. Or should we only focus on the Stalingrad region?
I want to make a model of the Italian or Romanian Army.

#424
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:36 AM UTC
Kalin,
The Italians and Romanians were an important part of the Stalingrad story. Please feel free to include them.
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
Sofiya, Bulgaria
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 06:55 AM UTC
Thanks Gaz. I hope I can include interesting machines.
Success!
Kalin

#323
Arizona, United States
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 08:45 AM UTC
Salutations all.
May I suggest a book about the 24th Panzer Div. in Stalingrad. Pretty detailed day-to-day story. I did a Tamiya 251 halftrack a bunch of years back that got me interested in the division and later getting the book. I want to do a Pz IIIJ in 24 Pz Div markings but kits for that version seem a bit scarce and just as expensive for me.
https://books.google.com/books/about/Death_of_the_Leaping_Horseman.html?id=HKXyAwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=falseCheers
Robbie: "Would 60 Gallons be sufficient ?"
Forbidden Planet - 1956

#424
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 10:44 AM UTC
Hi Rob,
Thank you for the suggestion.
Have you tried finding the Tamiya J?
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great

#465
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 09:34 PM UTC
Hi Gazza,
Yep, as much as I like the boot-to-butt one, it obviously won‘t show up clearly at that size. The medals are a good idea, or maybe a German road sign during the battle, like the one on this site (after being trimmed):
http://talesofclosecombat.blogspot.com/2013/09/battle-of-stalingrad-i-have-finally.htmlKalin, building a vehicle from one of the other Axis powers is a great idea!
Robbie, thanks for the reference - I might have to pick that one up. As far as another Panzer III kit goes, the one from Tamiya is a Ausf. L, not J:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/103419-tamiya-35215-panzerkampfwagen-iii-ausf-l-sd-kfz-141-1I‘m not sure whether this version was used at Stalingrad by the 24th PD, but maybe you could backdate it to a J.
Jerry

#424
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 10:08 PM UTC
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I‘m not sure whether this version was used at Stalingrad by the 24th PD, but maybe you could backdate it to a J.
Jerry
Weren't all J's renamed L's at some point?
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 10:15 PM UTC
Hi fellas,
You can read the info and enlist
HERE !!!
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 11:20 PM UTC
Something more like this?
Russian Cyrillic wall sign (with Bullet holes you probably can't see)
A simple Vs
Just a couple of more serious ones for comment. Will need some work to fit kb restrictions
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#399
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 12:50 AM UTC
I like both of those.

#424
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 07:45 AM UTC
John,
Thank you for setting up the Campaign page so quickly!
Peter, those both look great. Thank you!
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great

#465
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 08:45 AM UTC
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Weren't all J's renamed L's at some point?
Thanks, Gaz, I stand corrected - I went home and looked it up, and it says black-on-white in the Panzer Tracts book on the later models of the III that Auf. J to L was merely a designation change. I was thinking of the Ausf. M, which came later than the L, logically enough.
Peter, thanks for the signs, they both look cool!
Jerry
United Kingdom
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 09:56 AM UTC
Just signed up for this one. Really looking forward to it. This weekend I bought the Cyberhobby 15cm Sturm-Infanteriegeschutz 33 auf Pz III with German 6th Army Stalingrad 1942/43 at Scale Model World in Telford so will build that I guess. Should be a nice easy build.
I like the look of both the ribbon options.
cheers
Matthew

#424
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 12:20 PM UTC
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
California, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 04:57 PM UTC
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Hi John A,
Good choice - looks like we‘ll both be doing 24th PD vehicles.
I like the banner with ol‘ Adolf getting his butt kicked, too.
Jerry
Thanks Jerry
"Death of a Leaping Horseman"

Enlisted! Plan on building PzKpfw II F of the 24th PD.
JohnA
California, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 05:01 PM UTC
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Something more like this?
Russian Cyrillic wall sign (with Bullet holes you probably can't see)
I like this Tag. Even if some of use are building German armor.
JohnA

#424
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 06:44 PM UTC
Welcome, John!
I think most of us are building German armor, so far.
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
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Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 08:32 PM UTC
I'm sure there were a few such signs dotted around when the Germans got there. I got the idea from this
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Posted: Friday, November 16, 2018 - 08:44 AM UTC
Count me in. Going to use a Tamiya Flak 36/37, probably spiked and abandoned
Do I need a life? Nope. It would just get in the way of the models.

#424
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Posted: Friday, November 16, 2018 - 09:08 AM UTC
Marc,
Great news! That should be interesting to see!
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
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Posted: Friday, November 16, 2018 - 11:09 AM UTC
Change of plans. Instead of the Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B, which a few guys are doing, I'll do something else for a bit a variety - a Bronco Marder 2 Ausf D...
Yes Gaz, a Bronco again...
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#424
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Posted: Friday, November 16, 2018 - 08:31 PM UTC
Good on ya, Peter! Love your unflinching bravery.
Gaz
"Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."
Frederick The Great
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Posted: Saturday, November 17, 2018 - 07:38 AM UTC
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Welcome, John!
I think most of us are building German armor, so far.
Gaz
I’ll represent the opposition with something Russian. Possibly an already started T-34 with interior, or something else fresh.
Happy Modeling,
Zon
"Certainty of death.
Small chance of sucess.
What are we waiting for?"
-Gimli, Return of the King.
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Posted: Saturday, November 17, 2018 - 08:36 AM UTC
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I’ll represent the opposition with something Russian. Possibly an already started T-34 with interior, or something else fresh.
Happy Modeling,
Zon
Oh goodie, another Target
I expect a few more will roll in with you and Mark once the campaign starts Zon. The only Russkie kits I have are too late to be in Stalingrad.
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